"The Management" is whoever or whatever keeps creating humans the way that they are, stupid and greedy and shortsighted.Earth needs to be 'Under New Management' because man's present management has failed.
Tom
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"The Management" is whoever or whatever keeps creating humans the way that they are, stupid and greedy and shortsighted.Earth needs to be 'Under New Management' because man's present management has failed.
Im not really sure what you are trying to say, and what is going on with all the references to the bible? Is what you mean, that what its happening now is going according to what they bible say and the "wicked" will get what they deserve in the end, I think you lost me?
Oh Tom, since we are all created with free-will choices then humans end up the way they want to end up."The Management" is whoever or whatever keeps creating humans the way that they are, stupid and greedy and shortsighted.
Tom
I think that this is one of the most evil teachings of religious people.
Teaching people not to bother about the biosphere or the fate of future generations, because God will rescue us, is just plain immoral and wrong.
Tom
It was about robots...but some robotic preachers might be instructed to maximize prophets I suppose...I think that bit is probably already happening though.To ' maximize profits ' that sounds Not only like greedy merchants, but also greedy TV preachers.
References to Scripture is because of what we can really learn from the Bible.
Yes, I find what is happening now 'is' going on now, or happening now as to what the Bible says.
The wicked will be destroyed forever according to Psalms 92:7
Those ruining the earth will be brought to ruin as per Revelation 11:18 B.
We are nearing a soon coming ' time of separating ' to take place on earth as found at Matthew 25:31-33,37,40.
The ' many ' who just claim to be Christian can be classed with those figurative haughty ' goats ' to be destroyed.
To me ' the you lost me ' is that the executional words from Jesus' mouth will rid the earth of the wicked,
This is what we can learn found at Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16.
I think he have a point, even though I don't think its what Christians actually do. But it sort of sound like an excuse of "Don't worry, things will be fine.... just wait a bit longer and Jesus will sort it out". It does seem like a way to just throw any responsibilities away.I think that this is one of the most evil teachings of religious people.
Teaching people not to bother about the biosphere or the fate of future generations, because God will rescue us, is just plain immoral and wrong.
Tom
The promise of judgement day and how this will make everything right in the end, is just something I have never understood and how Christians find comfort in. It really seems more like a good way for those in power to make sure that those less fortunate than them can cling on to a hope that justice will be served. Said in another way, it seems a bit like a scam
Also according to the bible, those that are wicked are those that do not follow the law or is not obedient to God, nothing to do with ruining earth. If you read the bible, obedient and the law is pretty much the only thing God cares about.
Besides that if you think about it, im an atheist, yet I care deeply about how we treat earth and tries the best I can to do my part. But according to what you are saying Im going to end up with all the other "wicked" despite of this. So why should I care about earth, I don't have the "excuse" you have, that hopefully God will save me?
Matthew 5;17
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 7;21
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
This is what is important to Jesus, nothing about taking care of Earth etc. I don't actually think there is anything in the bible about how to care or how one ought to treat animals or Earth in fact..............
I find when we turn on the TV it is obvious that more than some ' robotic preachers ' now maximize profits.It was about robots...but some robotic preachers might be instructed to maximize prophets I suppose...I think that bit is probably already happening though.
I think you are misunderstanding most of these, obviously its beneficial for the animals if you understand them the way you do obviously .Plus, right off the bat mankind was to care for earth and animal life on earth as per Genesis 1:28.
Under the Mosaic Law's constitution animals were Not to be mistreated.
For example: Exodus 23:4-5,12; Exodus 20:10; Deuteronomy 5:14; Deuteronomy 22:10; Deuteronomy 25:4
I think you are misunderstanding most of these, obviously its beneficial for the animals if you understand them the way you do obviously .
But I don't think these have anything to do with animal rights as such. But how do you find the bible and what is written here as a solution to the problems we are facing or how are these verse you link to going to help solve anything, that I don't really understand?
I understand what you mean, even though I personally don't really like the "idea" behind the golden rule, since it doesn't really work. Think of a child molester or someone that likes pain, that wouldn't really work well with the golden ruleOK, if everyone lived by or practiced the Golden Rule, then there would be ' animal rights ' and protection.
Just enforcing the Golden Rule would be a solution to problems we are now facing.
Just think if everyone on Earth lived by the Golden Rule, then there would also be No wars on Earth.
As to how the Golden Rule can be enforced, well it can't without man's co-operation, fear of breaking the Golden Rule is something missing in today's lack of morals, today's values.
Since the majority of mankind will Not live by the Golden Rule, then that leaves God Not choice but to involve Himself into mankind's affairs.
In other words, the passing of time has well proven that mankind can Not successfully direct himself.
Kind of like the old adage: Give a person enough rope and he will hang himself.
Given enough time and mankind has exposed himself as to what kind of person he really is.
The words, that 'wicked men and imposters will advance from bad to worse...' proves true - 2 Timothy 3:13
I understand what you mean, even though I personally don't really like the "idea" behind the golden rule, since it doesn't really work. Think of a child molester or someone that likes pain, that wouldn't really work well with the golden rule
But anyway, I get your point. I think the issues with such approach is to assume that all people are in equal positions to live by the golden rule. A person suffering for hunger, will either have to die or steal if no one gives them food. My point being that you have way to many factors at play for the golden rule to really apply on the scale that is required.
Furthermore we could point fingers at certain companies, lets say Coca cola for instant, which uses around 3.5 - 4 liters of water to create a 1 liter of cola, including all the pollution that comes from making all the plastic and cans etc. But it doesn't really work, as people gladly buy their product, so pointing fingers at Cola is not really fair, I do think they try to reduce the amount of water they use and pollution etc. But at the same time they are trying to run a business. So its a shared problem and more or less an equal responsibility for every human. And to me if you want people to live by the "golden rule", which I agree with you is good, if we bend the meaning of it slightly. Then you have to change how we do business in the world, how the economy works. Because if companies are forced to work in a system where its all about consumption and profit if they want to survive, they are somewhat limited in how they operate. So they have to "encourage" people to buy their products and make them "feel" like they can't live without them. And unfortunately the methods of getting us to do this is very effective, but its not really good for the Earth as a whole.
So at least to me, you have several systems working against each other, one being we want and care about Earth and want to recycle etc, lets call that the golden rule. But on the other hand we have a system that is based on consumption, so it doesn't seem to work very well together. And to me since Earth is more important than a system we have invented, that primarily benefit the few rather than the masses, we ought to look at the system and change it rather than trying to fit them together. But how you would go about doing this is really not obvious. But to me at least, it seems like we are working towards a collapse both in nature, but also for societies as a whole. Because the system is not really evolving at the speed of which all these new technologies emerges. Which pushes humans further and further towards being obsolete for more and more jobs. And since robots etc. don't consume and buy stuff. It just doesn't seems to be a sustainable system in the long run.