I am sure many can find dissagreement in many things and there is always 3 sides to a story.
Predudices on both sides would be found and if not on both sides, those that suffered without having any predudice are the heros.
Regards Tony
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Why Predudices are so dangerous?
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I am sure many can find dissagreement in many things and there is always 3 sides to a story.
Predudices on both sides would be found and if not on both sides, those that suffered without having any predudice are the heros.
Regards Tony
All humans aren't born with the same rights, nor are they all born free and equal.
That is a goal to strive for.
How we do that is more difficult than the identification of the goal itself, imho.
Yes it has been and will be difficult, I agree.
It is written in my Faith that "..This can in no wise be achieved except through the power of a skilled, an all-powerful and inspired Physician. This, verily, is the truth, and all else naught but error..."
I see that motivation is in all of us. Thus the potential is achievable.
Regards Tony
Another reason Predudice is so dangerous is that we are not aware of how many we may have. They have been taught by our way of life and it may take years for the error to be seen.
A good example is what was acceptable back just say 40 to 70 years ago had now become actions that society will call you out on.
The treatment of women in movies is a good example of this. Not that long ago it sold movies to be a womanizer and was accepted by most. Now the same actions are rightly going to get you convicted, or at least lose you your job. The large range of predudices against women, are now front page news.
Regards Tony
A good example is what was acceptable back just say 40 to 70 years ago had now become actions that society will call you out on.
The treatment of women in movies is a good example of this. Not that long ago it sold movies to be a womanizer and was accepted by most. Now the same actions are rightly going to get you convicted, or at least lose you your job. The large range of predudices against women, are now front page news.
Regards Tony
Samana Johann
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That's most prejudicial, isn't it. Even very naive. Not two beings are equal, and no one has such as inherent rights, even just by birth. Yet the gift of giving others is something to praise, a good deed and to have the decision of doing good or bad is what makes being different. One would not strive for skillfulness is ones deeds wouldn't matter ones gains.
So yes, prejudice is very dangerous. Most lead to great disasters when wishing all equal, the many kinds of social, community, nationalism. If one takes out a right, others lose. So one is better encouraged to be not "victim" of naive and value destructing ideas.
Btw. there is no serious religion, good teaching, which has not fallen into corruption and secularism already, does favors for worldly gains, which ever praised those prejudice.
Not by birth one is more, lesser, equal "worthy" for gifts or not.
Thus without prejudices, all should have those rights.
The predudice is to think, in any way, that one human is more superior, or has more rights than another.
This must become humanities goal.
Regards Tony
Samana Johann
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Give what is yours, thats generous. Greedy people always claim others, good man Tony. Become a world emperor by your skillful acts, and once you are in the position, give.
It's nothing as global voice for plunder, cut off more Sublime to gain certain good feeling in the most dangerous kind of conceit "equal am I" and such as giving into a community identity. It's just another way that cost many beings their well-being and there is surely no doubt on the "human social nationalisms" huge disaster impact on the world.
Claiming and demanding, calling for rights, is strong wrong view and the attitude of poor people, especially poor in mind. Full of desires and wishing from others to provide for their happiness.
Simply total wrong and naive belief and prejudice to think people, beings are equal. Why some call for, why some just give generous what they can?
To bring it to a point here: a person who claims, calls for rights, demands from others is a poor person. He is not poor because having been born as a human, but because he holds on wrong views, does not work for his wealth and how many one would give a poor person would not change his tendency. Why? Because he has to work out his fruits by himself.
All one can do is to try to teach him right view and recognize Robin Hood just as another thief, working simply for his livelihood by taking from others what is not given.
Again: It should be not understand wrong. Nothing more praiseworthy then giving. But nothing more lower and poor then claiming, blaming, demanding and call for others to step even down on ones level down there.
Simply by adopting right view one is already rich and will see the miseries cause of beings correct, not naive and demanding.
a beggar that does not beg
It's nothing as global voice for plunder, cut off more Sublime to gain certain good feeling in the most dangerous kind of conceit "equal am I" and such as giving into a community identity. It's just another way that cost many beings their well-being and there is surely no doubt on the "human social nationalisms" huge disaster impact on the world.
Claiming and demanding, calling for rights, is strong wrong view and the attitude of poor people, especially poor in mind. Full of desires and wishing from others to provide for their happiness.
Simply total wrong and naive belief and prejudice to think people, beings are equal. Why some call for, why some just give generous what they can?
To bring it to a point here: a person who claims, calls for rights, demands from others is a poor person. He is not poor because having been born as a human, but because he holds on wrong views, does not work for his wealth and how many one would give a poor person would not change his tendency. Why? Because he has to work out his fruits by himself.
All one can do is to try to teach him right view and recognize Robin Hood just as another thief, working simply for his livelihood by taking from others what is not given.
Again: It should be not understand wrong. Nothing more praiseworthy then giving. But nothing more lower and poor then claiming, blaming, demanding and call for others to step even down on ones level down there.
Simply by adopting right view one is already rich and will see the miseries cause of beings correct, not naive and demanding.
a beggar that does not beg
I hope I never end up like that full of hatred and prejudice. I would rather not walk the earth than be in that degraded condition.
People who really love peace and want what’s best for humanity should be focused on reconciliation and the elimination of prejudice not hate speech.
Jim
Nets of Wonder
@Tony Bristow-Stagg Would it be off topic for your purposes in this thread to discuss what any of us might be able to do about the problem of prejudices, for example to help reduce them, counteract their effects and repair the damage?
Isn’t it a need of the ego or lower self because if I wanted to be superior spiritually I would be looking at trying to be more humble, more loving, more kind?
So claims that my religion or my race or nationality are superior would come from my ego or lower self for the higher self usually says things like all humanity is one family.
I remember reading a long time ago a definition of prejudice as being ‘an emotional attachment to an untruth’. I think the main problem in ridding the world of prejudices is to detach our emotions from it and examine it dispassionately and objectively in the light of peace and live for all humanity.
That is what it is about Jim, to lessen the danger of thoughts we may cherish, but are in fact based in a prejudice. Take it how you see it, in that way we learn from our diverse thoughts.
I definitely need help to understand what post number 27 is saying, I'm working on that understanding.
Regards Tony
Cooky
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For me it was the Koreans, "those darn Koreans
" I would always say... not anymore... Not...any...more.
I apologize if I can not see what you are trying to say, I will offer a reply as to what I see in each comment.
I see we can all give, wealth in not a requirement. I also see that the poorest usually give the most, thus to wait until one has the means, they have already failed to give what they can.
I see all those that give, give because they want to, not because they have an obligation to. In fact it is better a person does not give, if they do not want to. It is the spirit behind the gift of giving that changes hearts.
I see it is based in strong right views and justice. Those that call for rights, are usually persecuted by the weak and never have self in mind.
I am happy to see all my fellow humans as one family that deserve the same rights to live this life.
I see there are no demands, a person gives because they want to.
I do not see any Robin Hood is needed.
Part of basic human rights is having equal opportunity for employment, so that every person can earn their own living. Begging is not encouraged.
Giving all one has for the good of others, does indeed makes one very rich.
Regards Tony
It takes real character, honesty and courage to be truthful like you have.
It’s only too easy to get carried away with the emotion of the moment causing us to speak unjustly.
Thank you,
Well I think we are all guilty of it. Even those of us who are supposed to know better, including myself. It's a crazy world now and everyone is moving so fast because you have to or else you get left behind. But in doing that we are losing a piece of ourselves that we won't be able to regain, at least not easily.
It's in frantic days that everyone just needs a time out. Take a step back and appreciate what you do and don't have. Funny enough one of the independent journalist I follow just recently made a video where he also recently came to this conclusion.
But it's one of the reasons I take breaks from politics/religious discussions for 6 months, sometime years at a time. To just enjoy life, even if the world is crumbling down around me.
Samana Johann
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"I see" that they are mostly hardly indebted social carity receiver or have used, use poor all the way. Hardly one will find a honest and hard working person stand up to claim "people, being are equal"
It's, as told, just the try to get things without giving causes at first place, maybe a "nice" communist, or pseudoliberal ad, but not at all in conformity with any serious religion as when people would gain the same anyway, why would the any effort in doing sacrifices? One would even find leaders or teacher in such a "chicken-factory-sociaty", equal... and best treated. What ever people wish for, that they will gain. So my person does not worry that you soon will gain again the lowers equal quality, if that is all people can sacrifices for.
Since it has less to do with religion, good and encouragemet to give rather then to claim and demand, it's better to leave the marxistic places without any refuge aside of material means.
My persons suggestion would be just that those so touched by others, would go out and give what they have, but they wouldn't and work is hard.
Good householder Tony. Nobody can restrict you from giving what is yours, no need, if not greedy, to have an attitude like a poor. What hinders housholder Tony to do not compensate that he feel he could, that he personally could? A promise that all for free and paradise on earth is possible? Or simply stinginess that claims others to remove unwished pictures caused by ones actions previous. Suffer has a cause and this is found in ones own heart, not in the heart of others.
Greatings from Cambodia and more "real" life, a non-citizen anywhere.
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charlie sc
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No.
First, Islam is an ideology, not a people, race, gender, etc. Every ideology needs to be examined. If people are too sensitive when they examine their ideology, perhaps this is a red flag, because it is dangerous. Second, if something is true it's not prejudice. Third, terrorism is a minority among Muslims but the majority of terrorists are Islamic. Therefore, you cannot easily dismiss this as a terrorist problem not an Islamic problem.
Perhaps your inability to examine the dangers of an ideology you're already close to makes you unfit to do it. I doubt you'd have the same dismissal for other potentially dangerous ideologies like Nazism.
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Jim
Nets of Wonder
@Tony Bristow-Stagg What I see for me to do is keep working on my own prejudices, learning to be a better friend to more people, learning to tell stories, bringing the topic up for conversation sometimes, and learning to help with the growth and spread of healthier, happier, more loving communities. One way that I've tried to free myself from prejudices is when I see myself depreciating some group or category of people, I try to spend time with some of those people in environments where they feel at home, looking for things in them and in what they do, to like and admire. I have a new idea that I haven't tried yet. If I can't find any way to spend time with some of the people I'm depreciating, I want to try finding heartwarming stories to read, by and for some of those people.
Samana Johann
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Sometimes people would be much helped when they step down from the believe that they can help. Sometime people realize that the poor sleeping on the street has often more happiness and freedom as they have by their own. Sometimes they realize that there are some working out their future in a way one self would be actually incapable... there is often much arrogance and blindess that leads people to do much wrong with their "help".