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Multi-Dimensional Experiences

Michelle71

Member
I woke up this morning with a weird thought banging around in my head. Its a "what if" and I'd like to know your general thoughts on it.

"Geordie Rose, Founder of D-Wave (recent clients are Google and NASA) believes that the power of quantum computing is that we can `exploit parallel universes’..."

From the Christian perspective:
We are the result of our genetics and biology. Some have an easier time of life than others. Some people have a biology that gear them for optimism while others are born nihilists. Some are born into unimaginable hell and die too young to be cognizant of anything but pain. People have the belief systems they were born into, for the most part, cultural or otherwise. It is very unlikely that one strays too far from where they started, especially before the time of the internet.

According to super-string theory, there are at least 10 dimensions in the universe and other theories suggest there could be up to 26 dimensions. What if we are all living out our lives in multiple dimensions, all at once, linked somehow through a cosmic id. What if the cumulative results of all our choices from multiple universes is the determinate of what gets us into heaven or hell?

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Altfish

Veteran Member
I struggle getting my head round the 4th Dimension. The 5th Dimension is an album by The Byrds (IIRC)
26 Dimensions - grief.

But who knows....
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
I think my dreams might be real experiences in other dimensions, not hallucinations caused in my brain, does that count??
 

Terry Sampson

Well-Known Member
What if the cumulative results of all our choices from multiple universes is the determinate of what gets us into heaven or hell?
You're not an Orthodox Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist, are you? :)
  • What if there is only one universe and all of the decisions that we just thought have been our choices haven't actually been "free will" choices after all?
  • Or what if there are multiple universes and our choices in one universe are "free will" choices, but our choices in another universe aren't "free will" choices?
 

Michelle71

Member
You're not an Orthodox Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist, are you? :)
  • What if there is only one universe and all of the decisions that we just thought have been our choices haven't actually been "free will" choices after all?
  • Or what if there are multiple universes and our choices in one universe are "free will" choices, but our choices in another universe aren't "free will" choices?

I don't have a sect.
Free will is the topic for another discussion. I am assuming the existence of free will in my op.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
My thought is the normal waking human consists of interpenetrating physical, etheric and astral/mental bodies. The physical body exists of course in the familiar three-dimensions of our senses. The subtle bodies are in higher dimensions.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
You're not an Orthodox Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist, are you? :)
  • What if there is only one universe and all of the decisions that we just thought have been our choices haven't actually been "free will" choices after all?
  • Or what if there are multiple universes and our choices in one universe are "free will" choices, but our choices in another universe aren't "free will" choices?

I am a reformed baptist and raise a skeptical eye at the multiverse

BTW the multiverse started as sci-fi

see Wiki
In Dublin in 1952, Erwin Schrödinger gave a lecture in which he jocularly warned his audience that what he was about to say might "seem lunatic". He said that when his equations seemed to describe several different histories, these were "not alternatives, but all really happen simultaneously".[9]

The American philosopher and psychologist William James used the term "multiverse" in 1895, but in a different context.[10] The term was first used in fiction and in its current Physics context by Michael Moorcock in his 1963 SF Adventures novella The Sundered Worlds.
 
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ACEofALLaces

Active Member
Premium Member
According to super-string theory, there are at least 10 dimensions in the universe and other theories suggest there could be up to 26 dimensions.

I am no physicist, but when I read about Super-String Theory, I discovered that the mathematicians, kept coming up with an unforseen "remainder" in their equations......and the only way that they could 'remedy' it so that the equations would come out "even", was to "invent" some additional 'dimensions' and place them at random around the "outer" fringes of the universe.

I don't know about you, but I would call that "cheating".
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
I am no physicist, but when I read about Super-String Theory, I discovered that the mathematicians, kept coming up with an unforseen "remainder" in their equations......and the only way that they could 'remedy' it so that the equations would come out "even", was to "invent" some additional 'dimensions' and place them at random around the "outer" fringes of the universe.

I don't know about you, but I would call that "cheating".

Ocham's razer makes GOD look more appealing all the time
 

ACEofALLaces

Active Member
Premium Member
Free will is the topic for another discussion. I am assuming the existence of free will in my op.
I respect it as more appropriate in another discussion...however, just as a comment, it is my own personal feeling that "free will" is an illusion, and does not exist in reality.
 

Terry Sampson

Well-Known Member
I am a reformed baptist and raise a skeptical eye at the multiverse

Sorry, my inquiry posed to Michelle71, was not intended to be taken seriously. I am somewhat familiar with the Reformed Baptist and Orthodox Presbyterian doctrine of Election and Predestination. I posed the question only because her post seemed to me to scream: "I am NOT a Reformed Baptist or Orthodox Presbyterian."
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
I woke up this morning with a weird thought banging around in my head. Its a "what if" and I'd like to know your general thoughts on it.

"Geordie Rose, Founder of D-Wave (recent clients are Google and NASA) believes that the power of quantum computing is that we can `exploit parallel universes’..."

From the Christian perspective:
We are the result of our genetics and biology. Some have an easier time of life than others. Some people have a biology that gear them for optimism while others are born nihilists. Some are born into unimaginable hell and die too young to be cognizant of anything but pain. People have the belief systems they were born into, for the most part, cultural or otherwise. It is very unlikely that one strays too far from where they started, especially before the time of the internet.

According to super-string theory, there are at least 10 dimensions in the universe and other theories suggest there could be up to 26 dimensions. What if we are all living out our lives in multiple dimensions, all at once, linked somehow through a cosmic id. What if the cumulative results of all our choices from multiple universes is the determinate of what gets us into heaven or hell?

...

From the Christian perspective:
Even in a broken fallen sin cursed world redemption is possible
 

Michelle71

Member
I am no physicist, but when I read about Super-String Theory, I discovered that the mathematicians, kept coming up with an unforseen "remainder" in their equations......and the only way that they could 'remedy' it so that the equations would come out "even", was to "invent" some additional 'dimensions' and place them at random around the "outer" fringes of the universe.

I don't know about you, but I would call that "cheating".

I don't realy think I am smart enough to understand the technical side of these theories. I get it in a very general sense.
 

Terry Sampson

Well-Known Member
I don't realy think I am smart enough to understand the technical side of these theories. I get it in a very general sense.

You don't need me to validate your understanding, however ... don't sell yourself short. From where I sit, you got enough of the theories to ask a question that intrigued you.
 

ACEofALLaces

Active Member
Premium Member
I don't realy think I am smart enough to understand the technical side of these theories. I get it in a very general sense.

Well, in that case, you are already miles ahead of me on understanding HALF of the nonsense that some of their theorists come up with.

I am torn between the ridiculousness of GODDIDIT, to the unacceptable premise behind "POOF SCIENCE", when it comes to theories and postulations regarding origins of the universe.

That just has to be some kind of a 'happy medium' in there, somewhere.
 

Brickjectivity

Turned to Stone. Now I stretch daily.
Staff member
Premium Member
I woke up this morning with a weird thought banging around in my head. Its a "what if" and I'd like to know your general thoughts on it.

"Geordie Rose, Founder of D-Wave (recent clients are Google and NASA) believes that the power of quantum computing is that we can `exploit parallel universes’..."

From the Christian perspective:
We are the result of our genetics and biology. Some have an easier time of life than others. Some people have a biology that gear them for optimism while others are born nihilists. Some are born into unimaginable hell and die too young to be cognizant of anything but pain. People have the belief systems they were born into, for the most part, cultural or otherwise. It is very unlikely that one strays too far from where they started, especially before the time of the internet.

According to super-string theory, there are at least 10 dimensions in the universe and other theories suggest there could be up to 26 dimensions. What if we are all living out our lives in multiple dimensions, all at once, linked somehow through a cosmic id. What if the cumulative results of all our choices from multiple universes is the determinate of what gets us into heaven or hell?

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I think the very most basic observation which leads to these ideas is the observation that quantum states appear to be random. That is what 'Makes time go forward' for example. That is also why heat spreads out instead of going back into the bottle. This raises questions such as "What if the quantum particles had done something else?" Also it raises the question "What is matter, and are we 'Real', as in solid." Those two questions together are enough for people to try to come up with ideas about what matter is and what reality is. The questions about other dimensions are unanswerable, because all they are is an extension of these other two questions: "What is matter?" "What does the randomness imply?" We do know some things that it implies for us, and those are entropy, heat dissipation and forward motion in time with few exceptions. All those other possibilities about "What if the quantum collapse had been different?" are completely unreachable by us. They are dimensions only in the string theory model, not actual directions that can be traveled in.
 
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