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If theists created concept of God,

chinu

chinu
But they do in many cases force their ideas...ISIS? Taliban?
IN the U.S. there are continual attempts to introduce religion into the workings of government, as well as teaching religious beliefs as scientific facts in science classes, and having public money pay for education at religious schools.
They all are false-theists.
 

chinu

chinu
Attempts are made at every turn to impose religious ideas onto others. There has been a push in many states to enact laws based upon Christianity, for example. There have been attempts to teach creationism (later renamed intelligent design) in science classrooms when there is no science in it and it is clearly a theistic viewpoint.
Again, all these attempts are made by false-theists.

Theist, or say true-theist DO NOT make such attempts.

How do you propose non believers "stay away" from believers in various gods?
I NEVER said that non-believers to "Stay Away" ?
In fact, they are welcome with a cup of coffee :)

But, If they think that God does not exist, they must keep this IDEA in their own mind, and there's No need to oppose it.

And, if still they want to oppose, True-theist can't do anything except JUST asking the reason to oppose.
Like, I did in OP.

What do you say to those believers who knock on doors and put up signs and billboards?
Those are false believers / false-theist.
 

chinu

chinu
Just like you? How can anyone tell? You are beginning to sound just like all the other theists I've run across: Dogmatic, 100% certain, absolutely SURE that THEIR PERSONAL GOD is the one and only.
God is God
The one which is someone's personal, can never be God.
 

chinu

chinu
I would have to have an enormous ego to claim that I'm all-knowing enough to state it is IMPOSSIBLE for some sort of a god entity to exist. However, I have yet to be presented with any verifiable evidence whatsoever to support any god claim I've ever heard. Thus, without verifiable evidence it isn't possible for me to have any genuine belief.
There's NO need to use the word Genuine-Belief. Just using the word "Belief" is enough.
The word "Belief" itself refers something which DOES NOT HAVE any verifiable evidence.

Belief = Unsure = Atheist (Require evidence to make it sure)
Whereas,
Sure = Theist (Evident doesn't require any more evidence, or verifiable evidence)
 

chinu

chinu
No they aren't. They all believe in some sort of a god entity and that makes them theists. The fact that you may not agree that the god entity they believe in is real doesn't mean that they aren't theists. That would be like me claiming that YOU are not a theist, just because I don't think that the god you believe in is real.
Again, I have to say.

Belief, or Believe = Unsure.
Indeed, such false-theist themselves require evidence to make it sure. They pretend to be sure, but they aren't, sure, indeed.

Whereas,
Sure = Theist (Evident doesn't require any more evidence, or verifiable evidence)
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
There's NO need to use the word Genuine-Belief. Just using the word "Belief" is enough.
The word "Belief" itself refers something which DOES NOT HAVE any verifiable evidence.

Belief = Unsure = Atheist (Require evidence to make it sure)
Whereas,
Sure = Theist (Evident doesn't require any more evidence, or verifiable evidence)

I use genuine belief to distinguish between a belief that it's POSSIBLE and a belief that it actually IS.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Again, I have to say.

Belief, or Believe = Unsure.
Indeed, such false-theist themselves require evidence to make it sure. They pretend to be sure, but they aren't, sure, indeed.

Whereas,
Sure = Theist (Evident doesn't require any more evidence, or verifiable evidence)

I do not agree. A BELIEVER in God does NOT claim to be 'unsure' if God exists. It's a belief that God definitely DOES exist. IF you are 'unsure' THEN you CANNOT claim a belief that a God exists.
 
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