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Why is Islam so dangerous?

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Except that in post #68, the one I'm referring to, you were responding to me, not the OP. ;)

Except i was replying to LuisDantas in direct relation to my first post and you jumped in so it seems it way you throwing in strawmen
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Yet when you compare percentages of violent verse the Quran has the higher percentage.

Yet a book is a book and as a book the bible has more than twice the violence as the qur'an (in fact almost 3 times as many violent words)
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Yet a book is a book and as a book the bible has more than twice the violence as the qur'an (in fact almost 3 times as many violent words)

'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis ...
www.independent.co.ukCultureBooks
'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals. The Old Testament was found to be more than twice as violent as the Quran. Click to follow. The Independent Culture. In the analysis, the Bible scored higher for anger and much lower for trust than the Quran.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Yet when you compare percentages of violent verse the Quran has the higher percentage.

Is The Bible More Violent Than The Quran? : NPR
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124494788
Mar 18, 2010 · Much to my surprise, the Islamic scriptures in the Quran were actually far less bloody and less violent than those in the Bible. Philip Jenkins, author of 'Jesus Wars'. Violence in the Quran, he and others say, is largely a defense against attack.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Except i was replying to LuisDantas in direct relation to my first post and you jumped in so it seems it way you throwing in strawmen

Violence in the Quran - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_in_the_Quran
After studying the Quran in search of passages that recommended violence and comparing them with those of the Bible, American professor Philip Jenkins, who is the author of books on religious violence, came to the conclusion that the Quran is, in all, "far less bloody and less violent than ... the Bible." In the Quran, he says, violence is ...
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Well, maybe.. Allah doesn't mandate the killing of women, children and livestock.

Just slaves instead. Allah perks right?

You know Allah is the same character in the OT right? Same figure giving orders.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Just slaves instead. Allah perks right?

You know Allah is the same character in the OT right? Same figure giving orders.

I don't know who started this stupid thread, but its intentions are clear. Women and children had to have a family or tribe in order to survive.. Children born to slave mothers had equal rights to their father as his legit offspring.

Demonizing Muslims is a sorry game.. We should remember that the Nazis did that to the European Jews.
 

ManSinha

Well-Known Member
The Bible sometimes gives the Qur'an a run for its money. I don't think I have ever learned of any other scripture that does.

I know I said I would keep my mouth / er typing hand - shut around here BUT that said - that post intrigues me:

I have opined in other places both on RF and in my personal interactions that any scripture that purports to give law will quickly be outdated as morals and societies evolve.

Look at Deuteronomy 22:5
1 Corinthians 14:34

as two examples - at least from the way I read it - there will be several that take issue with it.

From my understanding the Yogic faiths and Sikhism - to give two examples that I know the best - force an individual to look inwards - there is no dispensation to go out and teach others (wonder how the masters expected the rest of the world to learn but that is another thread)

Even in the Kitab-i-Aqdas I found instances where law was being purported to be laid down and was already antiquated by my (non believer's) look at it - notwithstanding the protestations of those that follow that book

The entire dialogue between Krishna and Arjuna (Srimad Bhagvad Gita) is on one's duty to oneself, to the community and the world and of course to the Divine from the way I read it
 

Shad

Veteran Member
I don't know who started this stupid thread, but its intentions are clear. Women and children had to have a family or tribe in order to survive.. Children born to slave mothers had equal rights to their father as his legit offspring.

Happens with an arm-chair God.

Demonizing Muslims is a sorry game.. We should remember that the Nazis did that to the European Jews.

All? Sure. The moderates up here are mostly descendants of those fleeing radicals and ultra conservatives which mixed a specific form of Islam into politics. Persecution mainly. There is a large Ahmadiyya population for example. Heck the moderates have been complaining to government about the changes in mosques when conservatives with funding take over. Segregation for example was rare. Now the largest mosque in the nation implemented it.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Happens with an arm-chair God.



All? Sure. The moderates up here are mostly descendants of those fleeing radicals and ultra conservatives which mixed a specific form of Islam into politics. Persecution mainly. There is a large Ahmadiyya population for example. Heck the moderates have been complaining to government about the changes in mosques when conservatives with funding take over. Segregation for example was rare. Now the largest mosque in the nation implemented it.

Don't know anything about them.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
I have just finished watching this –


He knows what he is talking about but I wonder if the people that matter will listen.
 
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