Linus said:
I believe that God created us with that kind of nature. ....I don't think that those aspects of human nature ever go away. We want to please ourselves. Don't you want to please yourself? Make yourself happy? Such tendencies make it hard for us to obey all of God's commands, but that is why Jesus came to earth... to save the lost.
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And there we have it!
What you just described.............. is.............. drum roll, please............
ORIGINAL SIN.
Take one minute to clear your head of any previous conception of what sin is.
Now, looking at what you wrote above, and searching your heart, can you begin to understand that the early Church fathers when trying to figure out the EXACT SAME subject.....
....That selfishness.
.....That tedency towards doing what feels good, to please ourselves.
.... our selfish nature that makes it hard for us to obey God's commands........
explained this using the term original sin.
Original, meaning inherent in our nature....... and sin, not as you have been trying to define it, as a willful act, but as a condition.
A condition that you, very clearly described.
You see, you've believed in original sin all along..... you just don't call it the same thing as I do.
Peace,
Scott