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Blood in the Sheets.

John D. Brey

Well-Known Member
In 1987 James Dale Davidson (with whom I conversed back in the day) published a book titled: "Blood in the Streets." The primary prophesy of the book was a bold guarantee that the Soviet Union would fall, fall hard, and fall soon. At the time of writing the Berlin Wall was as intact, ubiquitious, and immutable, as was Soviet-style communism.

Though in retrospect, prophesies like Davidson's tend to look obvious, on the back-side of the fulfillment, a prophesy like Davidson's usually garners more laughter than serious thought. . . And I was there, as were you, and I remember the attitude toward Davidson's prophesy.

And yet today, another behemoth, another dinosaur, another worldview propped up by veils and walls, xenophobia, and visions of world-ruling grandeur, is about to topple, and topple hard, for the same reasons given by Davidson for the fall of the Soviet Union.


John
 

John D. Brey

Well-Known Member
In 1987 James Dale Davidson (with whom I conversed back in the day) published a book titled: "Blood in the Streets." The primary prophesy of the book was a bold guarantee that the Soviet Union would fall, fall hard, and fall soon. At the time of writing the Berlin Wall was as intact, ubiquitious, and immutable, as was Soviet-style communism.

Though in retrospect, prophesies like Davidson's tend to look obvious, on the back-side of the fulfillment, a prophesy like Davidson's usually garners more laughter than serious thought. . . And I was there, as were you, and I remember the attitude toward Davidson's prophesy.

And yet today, another behemoth, another dinosaur, another worldview propped up by veils and walls, xenophobia, and visions of world-ruling grandeur, is about to topple, and topple hard, for the same reasons given by Davidson for the fall of the Soviet Union.


John

The primary impetus Davidson gave for the coming fall of the Soviet Union was the exponential growth of mass-communication. The fact that the Soviet Union functioned on half-truths and top down control of ideology meant that any technology that reversed the asymmetry of thought-control would have an immense and deleterious affect on the top-down monopolization of those thoughts and ideologies.

As they say, that was then, this is now.

Now, another slumbering, slathering, archaic worldview, is about to succumb to the same asymmetry-reversing mass communication that did-in the Soviet Union.

Today's internet-driven mass communication is umpteen orders of magnitude beyond the kind of mass communication that brought down the Soviet Union even as the current behemoth about to slumber and fall is as ancient, as ubiquitous within the minds of her adherents, as invincible, in the minds of her adherents, more so order of magnitude, than the visions of world-ruling grandure of any Soviet communist living in the oblivion of pre-1991 Soviet Russia.



John
 

John D. Brey

Well-Known Member
The primary impetus Davidson gave for the coming fall of the Soviet Union was the exponential growth of mass-communication. The fact that the Soviet Union functioned on half-truths and top down control of ideology meant that any technology that reversed the asymmetry of thought-control would have an immense and deleterious affect on the top-down monopolization of those thoughts and ideologies.

As they say, that was then, this is now.

Now, another slumbering, slathering, archaic worldview, is about to succumb to the same asymmetry-reversing mass communication that did-in the Soviet Union.

Today's internet-driven mass communication is umpteen orders of magnitude beyond the kind of mass communication that brought down the Soviet Union even as the current behemoth about to slumber and fall is as ancient, as ubiquitous within the minds of her adherents, as invincible, in the minds of her adherents, more so order of magnitude, than the visions of world-ruling grandure of any Soviet communist living in the oblivion of pre-1991 Soviet Russia.



John

In fairness, it's as incorrect to demonize Soviet Communism, and the living experiment where it eventually floundered, as it is to demonize the coming fall of a seemingly more immutable worldview.

Soviet Communism is not without its truths, its legitimate hopes for the future of mankind, and even elements of its truths that will no doubt be part-and-parcel of the coming golden age of mankind.

And yet Soviet Communism, like the ideology in the very cross of the cross-hairs here, failed, by reason of a crack in the foundation of its ideological superstructure.

Though, as Cohen eloquently crooned, there's a crack in everything, a crack in the foundation of a would-be world-ruling ideology negates that ideology from being stable enough to support the world-to-come (which is nearly here). The ideology that will rule the world will have to fill the crack, deal with the void, become able to avoid the pits and pit falls of all would-be world-ruling ideologies come before, before its crowned for the glory of world dominion in the world-to-come.



John
 

John D. Brey

Well-Known Member
In fairness, it's as incorrect to demonize Soviet Communism, and the living experiment where it eventually floundered, as it is to demonize the coming fall of a seemingly more immutable worldview.

Soviet Communism is not without its truths, its legitimate hopes for the future of mankind, and even elements of its truths that will no doubt be part-and-parcel of the coming golden age of mankind.

And yet Soviet Communism, like the ideology in the very cross of the cross-hairs here, failed, by reason of a crack in the foundation of its ideological superstructure.

Though, as Cohen eloquently crooned, there's a crack in everything, a crack in the foundation of a would-be world-ruling ideology negates that ideology from being stable enough to support the world-to-come (which is nearly here). The ideology that will rule the world will have to filled the crack, deal with the void, become able to avoid the pits and pit falls of all would-be world-ruling ideologies come before, before its crowned for the glory of world dominion in the world-to-come.



John


The claim that reversing a top-down asymmetry brought down an ideological behemoth, after the behemoth was subjected to the light of uncontrolled, unedited, unsupervised, information-revelation, is too perfect here since the crack in Soviet Communism, like the crack being examined now, reveals an incorrect, an improper, understanding of the relationship between physics and metaphysics.

In Soviet-style communism, as in the ideology tangled up in the tresses here, physics is subordinate to metaphysics; metaphysics is the truth that reveals the nature of the physical world below, as above, so below, I think they say.

And yet in the glory of our current situation, we can begin to see a lie that has been foisted upon every one of us since the beginning, since the very Genesis that was given to us as the alleged biblical-truth of our beginning and our end, our alpha, so to say, and our omega, if you will, and most of you won't.



John
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Soviet Communism is not without its truths, its legitimate hopes for the future of mankind, and even elements of its truths that will no doubt be part-and-parcel of the coming golden age of mankind.


Truths like estimates ranging from 65 million to 100 million deaths between the intentional killings and the unintentional starvation.

Mass killings under communist regimes - Wikipedia

2 excerpts:

  • In 2016, the Dissident blog of the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation made an effort to compile updated ranges of estimates and concluded that the overall range "spans from 42,870,000 to 161,990,000" killed, with 100 million the most commonly cited figure.
  • In 2017, Professor Stephen Kotkin wrote in The Wall Street Journal that Communism killed at least 65 million people between 1917 and 2017: "Though communism has killed huge numbers of people intentionally, even more of its victims have died from starvation as a result of its cruel projects of social engineering"

The only truth Soviet communism ever held was oppression and death to the dissenters.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
The fact that the Soviet Union functioned on half-truths and top down control of ideology meant that any technology that reversed the asymmetry of thought-control would have an immense and deleterious affect on the top-down monopolization of those thoughts and ideologies.

Witness what is going on in Washington now, with lies and half-truths the constant output of the administration along with attempts to monopolize the narrative.

What's different is the democratization of mass communication, the spread of confirmation bias and, at least in the USA, a heritage of freedom
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
Veils and such? A Saudi Arabian friend who was here going to college said that he felt the "Kingdom" would fall within 5 years, and that was almost that long ago. It is chilling that here in America a nutty despot like Trump is still in office. I expect America to fall if we do not come to our senses.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
I think it's important to remember that America has been here, before. This isn't the first time that a small cabal of very wealthy oligarchs bought off and corrupted the U.S. government, owned and controlled all the major media outlets, used the police as hired thugs, and subjugated the citizenry to the point of wage enslavement. We love to point and squawk about the old Soviet Union but our own past was not that different. The last time we allowed this to happen here in the U.S. it brought on a total economic collapse, followed by great suffering and years of bloody fighting in the streets, but eventually the combination of organized labor unions and tough new socialist legislation (and a global war on someone else's turf) turned our fall into the abyss of greed and stupidity around.

So there is hope that when things finally get bad enough in this country, the American people will finally realize the profound error of their capitalist-loving ways, and return to those socialist practices that saved us in the past: to strong organized and effective labor representation, to strong social security and public safety nets, to the significant taxation of accumulated wealth to keep it from piling up in the hands of greedy and anti-social oligarchs that will use it to corrupt the government and exploit the markets for their own benefit, and to strong laws that stop business and commerce from becoming to big to control, on behalf of the well-being of the people.
 

John D. Brey

Well-Known Member
Truths like estimates ranging from 65 million to 100 million deaths between the intentional killings and the unintentional starvation.

. . . The fact that good intentions often pave the way to hell doesn't necessarily make us want to dispense with good intentions?

The early church practiced a form of communism.



John
 

John D. Brey

Well-Known Member
Witness what is going on in Washington now, with lies and half-truths the constant output of the administration along with attempts to monopolize the narrative.

. . . Do you feel the same way about the media's opposition to Washington?



John
 

John D. Brey

Well-Known Member
Veils and such? A Saudi Arabian friend who was here going to college said that he felt the "Kingdom" would fall within 5 years, and that was almost that long ago. It is chilling that here in America a nutty despot like Trump is still in office. I expect America to fall if we do not come to our senses.

. . . Playing the devil's advocate, there are those who feel a Hillary Clinton Presidency was the fall, the end of our Democracy as we've known it, and that the Trump Presidency prolonged the Democracy.



John
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
. . . Playing the devil's advocate, there are those who feel a Hillary Clinton Presidency was the fall, the end of our Democracy as we've known it, and that the Trump Presidency prolonged the Democracy.



John

Who knows? I can't think unemotionally about him because of my own past history.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
The early church practiced a form of communism.

John

Sure, some older forms of communism did work. In small closed tight knit groups, without a man named Marx/Mao in it. Whenever its theories are applied to a large scale population, it spirals out of control. History has proven this time and time again. Last I checked 108 out of the 110 times that communism has been tried, it has failed.

I haven't seen any evidence to support communism as a successful form of government.
 

John D. Brey

Well-Known Member
I haven't seen any evidence to support communism as a successful form of government.

. . . Not in this fallen world to be sure. But the original statement implies that something of the good intentions of communism may (or may not) make it into that perfect world yet to come.



John
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
. . . Not in this fallen world to be sure. But the original statement implies that something of the good intentions of communism may (or may not) make it into that perfect world yet to come.



John

Doubtful

Isaiah 64-6

6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

If you want to help someone then fine go do it. But be humble about it and do not brag, no not wait around for a thank you, and do not expect it get you past judgment.
 
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