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They Are Not Christians!

sooda

Veteran Member
If you are referring to the time of Jesus then you are hopelessly out.

The three great feasts were supported by about half a million Jews, serviced by 2000 priests and controlled by 6000 levite Temple guards.

And that is before the local population of Jerusalem and is suburban townships. We can be fairly sure about that.

Nah.. the whole country didn't have a half million people. The Bible exaggerates EVRYTHING.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
How crazy!
The Christian idea of sin is strange to me.

The hundreds of OT laws were all about enabling and facilitating the Israelites in to becoming a strong and invincible nation.

Sin could only lead to ..... sickness, weakness, failure.

Breaking the laws lead to sin. Jesus mentioned this a few times but it got lost in the Christian ideas about morality.

That's the stupid thing, the laws about, say, adultery or homosexuality were important back then because they could cause mass sickness if bust, but Christians forgot all the others! What about 'put fences around your rooftops to save lives'......... why don't Christians make a fuss over that one?

Deuteronomy {22:8} When thou buildest a new house, then thou shalt make a battlement for thy roof, that thou bring not blood upon thine house, if any man fall from thence.

Christianity lost the plot.... way back.
 

Dan Mellis

Thorsredballs
Ahh...... John. Yeah........ well he was ........ yeah.

I mean, if he had even known the true timeline of events it could possibly have helped me to take any notice of his revelation.

But he didn't. That 2nd century writer was no witness, and his gospel and revelation incited more hatred and death over two millennia than any other writing, is my take on things.

Yeah.


I agree :) I put no stock in john, or any of the rest or em...
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Nah.. the whole country didn't have a half million people. The Bible exaggerates EVRYTHING.
No...... the figures came from a Roman taxation census counted from the pairs of lamb kidneys taken from one feast.

If there had only been a few Jews in Jerusalem in the early 1st century, how come the Romans had so much trouble with them all?

The Temple was huge, because the population of the Jewish provinces was well over a million, certainly over a million.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
I agree :) I put no stock in john, or any of the rest or em...

I like G-Mark, and I like many of the reports and anecdotes from all the gospels, but only after editing out all the Christian additions........... So I like what history I can dredge out of it all, but I am no Christian.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
No...... the figures came from a Roman taxation census counted from the pairs of lamb kidneys taken from one feast.

If there had only been a few Jews in Jerusalem in the early 1st century, how come the Romans had so much trouble with them all?

The Temple was huge, because the population of the Jewish provinces was well over a million, certainly over a million.

The Temple was NOT huge,,

The Bible's description of Solomon's Temple (also called The First Temple) suggests that the inside ceiling was was 180 feet long, 90 feet wide, and 50 feet high.

A football field is 360 long.

Which Roman taxation census? There wasn't any census when Jesus was a baby.

Once More: Quirinius's Census - Associates for Biblical ...
https://www.biblearchaeology.org/.../Once-More-Quiriniuss-Census.aspx
First, there is no record of a singular, empire-wide census instituted by Augustus. 7 Second, a Roman census would have required Joseph to register not at his ancestral home in Bethlehem but in the principal city of his “taxation district,” 8 presumably somewhere in Galilee.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
The trouble with Revelation is that John wrote it.
That bloke couldn't even get the bunch of anecdotes he had collected about the Jesus story in to the right timeline. I mean, he thought that Jesus demonstrated in the Temple at the very beginning of his mission, when this happened at the very end.

I have read that a psychedelic mushroom grows in abundance on the penal island where John resided. I . reckon that Revelation could be the result of a regular intake of those

Hey OB....
You do realize that, like the feeding of the multitudes, the cleansing of the Temple happened more than once. John is correct....it happened at the beginning and also at the end of Jesus' ministry. The Jews were incorrigible.....they kept on failing to be corrected. These incidents happened three years apart.

"In the spring of the year 30 C.E., Jesus went to Jerusalem. Many people had come to the city for the Passover. As part of the celebration, they made animal offerings at the temple. Some people brought animals with them, but others bought them in Jerusalem.

When Jesus went to the temple, he saw people selling animals there. They were making money for themselves right in Jehovah’s house of worship! How did Jesus react? He made a whip out of ropes and drove the sheep and the cattle out of the temple. He overturned the tables of the money changers and poured their coins out on the ground. Jesus told those who were selling doves: ‘Take these things away from here! Do not make my Father’s house a place of business!’

People at the temple were amazed at what Jesus did. His disciples remembered the prophecy about the Messiah: ‘I will be full of zeal for Jehovah’s house.’

Later, in the year 33 C.E., Jesus cleansed the temple a second time. He would not let anyone show disrespect for his Father’s house."

Matthew 21:12, 13; Mark 11:15-17; Luke 19:45, 46; John 2:13-17; Psalm 69:9

Jesus Cleanses the Temple — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
 
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sooda

Veteran Member
Hey Ob....
You do realize that, like the feeding of the multitudes, the cleansing of the Temple happened more than once. John is correct....it happened at the beginning and also at the end of Jesus' ministry. The Jews were incorrigible.....they kept on failing to be corrected. These incidents happened three years apart.

"In the spring of the year 30 C.E., Jesus went to Jerusalem. Many people had come to the city for the Passover. As part of the celebration, they made animal offerings at the temple. Some people brought animals with them, but others bought them in Jerusalem.

When Jesus went to the temple, he saw people selling animals there. They were making money for themselves right in Jehovah’s house of worship! How did Jesus react? He made a whip out of ropes and drove the sheep and the cattle out of the temple. He overturned the tables of the money changers and poured their coins out on the ground. Jesus told those who were selling doves: ‘Take these things away from here! Do not make my Father’s house a place of business!’

People at the temple were amazed at what Jesus did. His disciples remembered the prophecy about the Messiah: ‘I will be full of zeal for Jehovah’s house.’

Later, in the year 33 C.E., Jesus cleansed the temple a second time. He would not let anyone show disrespect for his Father’s house."

Matthew 21:12, 13; Mark 11:15-17; Luke 19:45, 46; John 2:13-17; Psalm 69:9

Jesus Cleanses the Temple — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY

It wasn't because they were selling animals and birds for sacrifice its that they were taking a fee to change from Roman coin to Shekels.. and they were cheating the poor.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Not a vigilante, an activist. I'd never harm anyone of take action into my own hands - but I will argue my point and put pressure on government bodies whenever I can.

Can you see a contradiction in your statement there?
If you put pressure on governments then you are taking things into your own hands to bring about a situation that you desire....what exactly do you want governments to do? Make it illegal to practice a religion? The Bible actually foretells that this will happen.....so you will get your wish.....but do you know why? Do you know what this will lead to?

You're entitled to think atheism is ludicrous, that doesnt affect me. What does affect me is when religion pokes its nose into politics, education and personal life.

Religion should NEVER poke its nose into politics.....that is a good gauge to identify those who are NOT serving God at all. We Christians are supposed to be "no part of the world" which includes its politics, its goals, its lifestyles or its agenda. Jesus separated his disciples from all of that. JW's do the same.

As for education, we do not shield our children from learning about science and evolution because it is part of their school curriculum.....what we do is balance their education with both sides of that story. They soon see that science is not really truthful about what it teaches. It involves as much "belief" as religion does. It is simply a substitute for religion IMO.
Once you investigate it without the atheist lens, it is clear that they have no proof for most of what they proclaim as fact.

As for our personal life....what the Bible teaches is all about our personal life. It's about our standards of morality, justice, cleanliness, education, relationships, how we treat our fellow man, etc.....all of which are being ditched for a "do whatever you like attitude" today. Has this improved the standards of human behavior? Not that I can see. In fact it is ruining many lives as this "freedom" impinges on the freedom of others. Its not as rosy as some imagine.

Of course there's room for all of us, but lets give our kids a fair playing feild.... but then again if they aren't forced into religion then it would die out so I guess you're against that.

I don't think that is true. We come across many who were raised as atheists but who found an emptiness in their lives that only God could fill. We can deny it all we wish, but humans are wired for worship.

Religion or expressions of worship have been with the human race from its beginnings. Those expressions haven't always been an accurate form of the way God should be worshipped. That which is prescribed in the Bible would bring much relief from the troubles of today's world if everyone practiced them.

We see many substitutes for religion today.....science, sports, business success, celebrity status, various pursuits of pleasure, materialism and the lifestyle that many aspire to obtain. Whatever takes your full focus of time and attention becomes your "religion". Once you see this situation for yourself, you see that these have their temples, their scripture and their idols....that is worship.

The argument for a world without religion is made particularly well by Stephen Fry and Christopher Hitchens - a world full of atheists wouldn't be perfect (because there aee bad atheists too) but it would be better. Morality is hindered by religion, not enhanced by it. I'm not going to post the argument here as its a seperate topic, but feel free to youtube it!

Morality is supposed to be regulated by Bible principles. Did you know that sexually transmitted diseases are only possible if you break the Bible's moral code? STD's are rampant today because humans think that they can practice the morals of ally cats with no consequences.

Marriage, which was instituted by God originally, would be a blessing for all if everyone just followed the Bible's guidelines for a successful marriage. How many kids are from broken families these days? The family unit is the foundation of any society, so once you destroy it, the fabric of society unravels with it. The greatest empire in history (Rome) fell due to its own decadence and the dissolution of family life. We are seeing history repeat. We never learn the lessons from the past because we are too focused on what we want rather than what is beneficial for ourselves and others.

If God exists as described in the bible, then unfortunately the evidence for him being destructive and divisive and harmful is overwhelming. Modern Christianity has softened its position, but its incongruent witht their core text and the reasons I've seen for this are disingenuous.

If you are going by what Christendom has done, has taught, and continues to perpetuate, then I will have to agree with you.

But the God of the Bible is not a sentimental God. He is a God of justice and his laws are a reflection of those laws being non-negotiable. Try telling a human court that you just made a mistake when you broke their law and see where it gets you. Justice today however, depends on good lawyers, not really on the true guilt or innocence of the accused. But God is not fooled....those who break his laws by fudging ways around them or justifying their ungodly behavior, will pay.

When God is your judge and jury, no one gets away with anything. That, for Christians, means living in such a way that we become a model citizen of whatever nation we occupy....we don't break man's law because we don't want to break God's law. We would then do away with the need for police, courts, greedy lawyers and jails. So a world full of genuine Christians (as opposed to those who just wear a label) would be a good thing. Can atheists make a claim like that?

People pay their taxes and pay their churches, who don't pay taxes on that income - and are incredibly wealthy as a result.

Some churches are incredibly wealthy and even solicit donations from the non-religious population, but do not use that money to help their charges....they are too busy helping themselves. But its not the money so much as what you do with it. Churches are supposed to support the needy among them, but mostly we see their charities are run as businesses and the poor are still disadvantaged. Any charity that has high administration fees is a business. True charities are run by volunteers. We should not get paid or become rich for doing God's work. In Bible times a minister was given board and lodging, not a wage.

The people ARE NOT the church - the church is an organisation. Thats like saying "wallmart employees pay taxes, and they ARE wallmart, so wallmart shouldn't be taxed twice".

Actually, the word translated "church" is "ek·kle·siʹa" or more correctly, "congregation". Initially, the church was the people.

Christendom made the church into an organization of high ranking men who controlled what was taught and what was to be practiced. Unfortunately, the small "organization" of Christians in the first century, was to be corrupted in much the same way that Judaism was. Men with too much power led to corruption on a monumental scale. I do not see Christendom as promoting true Christianity, but a poor "weed-like" imitation of the original as Jesus said.

Those religious organizations who hold great wealth to aggrandize themselves, rather than to promote true Christian values and worship, IMO should pay their way. Jesus did not live in the lap of luxury but was raised in a rather poor family who placed greater emphasis on spiritual values, not material ones. It does not mean living in abject poverty, but having "enough" to live without worrying about your next meal. Jesus and the apostles taught us about self-sufficiency along with contentment. The world promotes an insatiable appetite for the next new thing....as a result, they are never content.

Bible principles protect us from so many problems.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
It wasn't because they were selling animals and birds for sacrifice its that they were taking a fee to change from Roman coin to Shekels.. and they were cheating the poor.

Yes, not only were they extorting money from their own 'brothers' but it was inappropriate to turn God's House into a commercial centre for making a profit. Why do you think he drove the animals out of there with a whip?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I'm sorry........ I thought you would have read John.
Let me show you:-

John:...........
Jesus went up to Jerusalem, {2:14} And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: {2:15} And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables;

........... quite a demonstration.
and dangerous....

I picture it this way....

I follow the Guy around for three years
He did some things beyond human ability

He comes into the Holy City with a High Sabbath pending
seeing what is no more than a church bizarre within the temple walls.....
He finds a cord and begins tying knots in it
and with the tightening of each knot His Face becomes more grim

when He stands to the threshold He makes the announcement .....Get out!!!!!
He likely had to say it more than once.....loudly

as the silence overtakes the crowd.......I swear I can hear it......

someone laughed

and the whipping began....him first


no doubt several men thinking they could...tried to stop Him

as a black belt I have a good feel for what it would take to clear a crowd
from a place they call their own

that ability is FAR beyond typical
FAR beyond trained

far beyond me
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Well, the word 'Christ' was never mentioned after the execution. The Jewish people didn't even know the word, although the Hellenist Priesthood may have.

I'm not even sure that Jesus died that day, but that's another story altogether.
having been taught by catholic nuns and priests....
I am aware the word was not formed during His ministry
and not for sometime after

but it was used as intimidation in later years

and the Romans used to feed Christians to the lions


so I heard
 

Dan Mellis

Thorsredballs
Ok
Can you see a contradiction in your statement there?
If you put pressure on governments then you are taking things into your own hands to bring about a situation that you desire....what exactly do you want governments to do? Make it illegal to practice a religion? The Bible actually foretells that this will happen.....so you will get your wish.....but do you know why? Do you know what this will lead to?



Religion should NEVER poke its nose into politics.....that is a good gauge to identify those who are NOT serving God at all. We Christians are supposed to be "no part of the world" which includes its politics, its goals, its lifestyles or its agenda. Jesus separated his disciples from all of that. JW's do the same.

As for education, we do not shield our children from learning about science and evolution because it is part of their school curriculum.....what we do is balance their education with both sides of that story. They soon see that science is not really truthful about what it teaches. It involves as much "belief" as religion does. It is simply a substitute for religion IMO.
Once you investigate it without the atheist lens, it is clear that they have no proof for most of what they proclaim as fact.

As for our personal life....what the Bible teaches is all about our personal life. It's about our standards of morality, justice, cleanliness, education, relationships, how we treat our fellow man, etc.....all of which are being ditched for a "do whatever you like attitude" today. Has this improved the standards of human behavior? Not that I can see. In fact it is ruining many lives as this "freedom" impinges on the freedom of others. Its not as rosy as some imagine.



I don't think that is true. We come across many who were raised as atheists but who found an emptiness in their lives that only God could fill. We can deny it all we wish, but humans are wired for worship.

Religion or expressions of worship have been with the human race from its beginnings. Those expressions haven't always been an accurate form of the way God should be worshipped. That which is prescribed in the Bible would bring much relief from the troubles of today's world if everyone practiced them.

We see many substitutes for religion today.....science, sports, business success, celebrity status, various pursuits of pleasure, materialism and the lifestyle that many aspire to obtain. Whatever takes your full focus of time and attention becomes your "religion". Once you see this situation for yourself, you see that these have their temples, their scripture and their idols....that is worship.



Morality is supposed to be regulated by Bible principles. Did you know that sexually transmitted diseases are only possible if you break the Bible's moral code? STD's are rampant today because humans think that they can practice the morals of ally cats with no consequences.

Marriage, which was instituted by God originally, would be a blessing for all if everyone just followed the Bible's guidelines for a successful marriage. How many kids are from broken families these days? The family unit is the foundation of any society, so once you destroy it, the fabric of society unravels with it. The greatest empire in history (Rome) fell due to its own decadence and the dissolution of family life. We are seeing history repeat. We never learn the lessons from the past because we are too focused on what we want rather than what is beneficial for ourselves and others.



If you are going by what Christendom has done, has taught, and continues to perpetuate, then I will have to agree with you.

But the God of the Bible is not a sentimental God. He is a God of justice and his laws are a reflection of those laws being non-negotiable. Try telling a human court that you just made a mistake when you broke their law and see where it gets you. Justice today however, depends on good lawyers, not really on the true guilt or innocence of the accused. But God is not fooled....those who break his laws by fudging ways around them or justifying their ungodly behavior, will pay.

When God is your judge and jury, no one gets away with anything. That, for Christians, means living in such a way that we become a model citizen of whatever nation we occupy....we don't break man's law because we don't want to break God's law. We would then do away with the need for police, courts, greedy lawyers and jails. So a world full of genuine Christians (as opposed to those who just wear a label) would be a good thing. Can atheists make a claim like that?



Some churches are incredibly wealthy and even solicit donations from the non-religious population, but do not use that money to help their charges....they are too busy helping themselves. But its not the money so much as what you do with it. Churches are supposed to support the needy among them, but mostly we see their charities are run as businesses and the poor are still disadvantaged. Any charity that has high administration fees is a business. True charities are run by volunteers. We should not get paid or become rich for doing God's work. In Bible times a minister was given board and lodging, not a wage.



Actually, the word translated "church" is "ek·kle·siʹa" or more correctly, "congregation". Initially, the church was the people.

Christendom made the church into an organization of high ranking men who controlled what was taught and what was to be practiced. Unfortunately, the small "organization" of Christians in the first century, was to be corrupted in much the same way that Judaism was. Men with too much power led to corruption on a monumental scale. I do not see Christendom as promoting true Christianity, but a poor "weed-like" imitation of the original as Jesus said.

Those religious organizations who hold great wealth to aggrandize themselves, rather than to promote true Christian values and worship, IMO should pay their way. Jesus did not live in the lap of luxury but was raised in a rather poor family who placed greater emphasis on spiritual values, not material ones. It does not mean living in abject poverty, but having "enough" to live without worrying about your next meal. Jesus and the apostles taught us about self-sufficiency along with contentment. The world promotes an insatiable appetite for the next new thing....as a result, they are never content.

Bible principles protect us from so many problems.

Ok, so the vast majority of this is based on claims about god and on the assumption that the Bible is something I should care about; so I'm only going to bother with the bits that cant be argued with "yeah but theres probs no god".

1. No, religion shouldnt be illegal. In fact, freedom of religion should be absolute. The downside is, the only way religion survives is through kids having the choice removed.

2. Religion is absolutely not an equivalent to science. Using scientific principles, the default stance is "Its not true until we can prove otherwise." Therefore, faith (believing without evidence) doesn't enter the equation. You're right though, science is corrosive to religion. The problem is, the inverse is also true - but science is the only reliable route to truth. I'm sure you have a different opinion, and I'm happy to accept that no amount of logical argument will change your mind - I didnt mean that as an insult... I'm sure you'd agree that your god defies logic and reason.

3. Humans are wired for ritual, worship is simply a means to an end. We dont need ritual to be healthy and happy.

4. Humans are animals, and having one mate for life is against our natural wiring. It's a societal construct (one which i'm happy to confirm to for the happiness of my wonderful partner). I'm not married, and have a child. We're all happy, healthy and successful but 'devout' atheists. Does your god just like us better than christians who are worse off? He hasn't blighted any of us with an sti, and I've even had homosexual relationships (gasp)

The rest of your argument can be safely disregarded as preaching - as it requires that I believe the same things as you to be convinced by it.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
The Temple was NOT huge,,

The Bible's description of Solomon's Temple (also called The First Temple) suggests that the inside ceiling was was 180 feet long, 90 feet wide, and 50 feet high.

A football field is 360 long.
You are a few hundred years out, then.
We are focused upon the 2nd Temple, in the early first century.
Its out walls were massive.

Which Roman taxation census?
The one which was there to read in your own link!
It was taken in the late 1st century BC, during Herods's time but thats close enough.
We are not talking about Quirinius's census in connection with the kidney count.


First, there is no record of a singular, empire-wide census instituted by Augustus. 7 Second, a Roman census would have required Joseph to register not at his ancestral home in Bethlehem but in the principal city of his “taxation district,” 8 presumably somewhere in Galilee.
Good, so that is settled. The 6AD census was all about Samaria, Judea and Idumea after Archelaus was retired and a Prefect appointed to govern those provinces.
And , yes, the idea of a Galilean needing to register out of his own district is rubbish.

But you missed the point........... It can be shown that hundreds of thousand of Jews attended the main feasts.
Your ideas about how small the community was are way out.
There never would have been such a huge vwar with Rome if Jeusalem was so small.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Hey OB....
You do realize that, like the feeding of the multitudes, the cleansing of the Temple happened more than once. John is correct....it happened at the beginning and also at the end of Jesus' ministry. The Jews were incorrigible.....they kept on failing to be corrected. These incidents happened three years apart.
Hello Deeje.
I accept that you believe in two 'cleansings', but I only accept the demonstration that Jesus made in his last few days.

And I cannot accept any writings that refer to 'the Jews'. Everything that Jesus did was on behalf, for, and in support of 'the Jews'. His anger was all about a corrupted, disloyal, immoral, quisling and estranged priesthood...... the leaders. The Baptrist thought they were a bunch of vipers as well.

"In the spring of the year 30 C.E., Jesus went to Jerusalem. Many people had come to the city for the Passover. As part of the celebration, they made animal offerings at the temple. Some people brought animals with them, but others bought them in Jerusalem.
Very few families brought a lamb with them. The priests could condemn such beasts as imperfect. The whole thing was a money go round, which is why both the Baptist and Jesus were totally against the whole corrupt crock of dirt.


When Jesus went to the temple, he saw people selling animals there. They were making money for themselves right in Jehovah’s house of worship! How did Jesus react? He made a whip out of ropes and drove the sheep and the cattle out of the temple. He overturned the tables of the money changers and poured their coins out on the ground. Jesus told those who were selling doves: ‘Take these things away from here! Do not make my Father’s house a place of business!’
He did something similar to that in his last week, during his second visit to the Temple, and picketed the Temple Courts during his third visit to the Temple, all in three consecutive days, which is why he got in to trouble.

But I wish to stick with just Mark's (the synoptic) accounts of that.


Later, in the year 33 C.E., Jesus cleansed the temple a second time. He would not let anyone show disrespect for his Father’s house."
I think that Jesus's mission last 11-12 months, and ended in three visits to the Temple in the last several days.

Question:- How old do you think that Jesus was in his last days?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
having been taught by catholic nuns and priests....
I am aware the word was not formed during His ministry
and not for sometime after

but it was used as intimidation in later years

and the Romans used to feed Christians to the lions


so I heard

We just don't get that kind of excitement any more.
Scene: The Colosseum
:OK folks! Next is Tolomai, who was evangelising in our streets. He's tall, strong, fit and handsome.... well for the next few minutes he will be! How long can he last, folks? Lay your bets!'

:p
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
oldbadger said:
I think that Jesus's mission last 11-12 months, and ended in three visits to the Temple in the last several days.
What makes you think so?

Question:- How old do you think that Jesus was in his last days?

As firstborn, I believe he was bound to care for his widowed mother till he was 30. So he presented himself for baptism at the Jordan River at age 30 and his ministry lasted three and a half years. So I believe that he was 33.5 years of age at his death.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
You are a few hundred years out, then.
We are focused upon the 2nd Temple, in the early first century.
Its out walls were massive.


The one which was there to read in your own link!
It was taken in the late 1st century BC, during Herods's time but thats close enough.
We are not talking about Quirinius's census in connection with the kidney count.



Good, so that is settled. The 6AD census was all about Samaria, Judea and Idumea after Archelaus was retired and a Prefect appointed to govern those provinces.
And , yes, the idea of a Galilean needing to register out of his own district is rubbish.

But you missed the point........... It can be shown that hundreds of thousand of Jews attended the main feasts.
Your ideas about how small the community was are way out.
There never would have been such a huge vwar with Rome if Jeusalem was so small.

The next period Geva considers is the period of the United Monarchy, the time of King David and King Solomon and a couple centuries thereafter (1000 B.C.E. down to about the eighth century B.C.E.). In David’s time, the borders of the city did not change from the previous period. However, King Solomon expanded the confines of the city northward to include the Temple Mount.

This increased the size of the city to about 40 acres, but the increase in population was not proportionate since much of this expansion was taken up with the Temple and royal buildings. “It is likely that Jerusalem attracted new inhabitants of different social classes,” Geva tells us. “Some of these people came to reside in the city as a consequence of their official and religious capacities, while others came to seek a livelihood in its developing economy.”

Geva estimates the population of the city at this time at about 2,000. (Previously, other scholars had estimated the number of people living in the city at this time as 2,000, 2,500 or 4,500–5,000.)

In the mid-eighth century B.C.E., the area usually referred to as the Western Hill was added to the city of Jerusalem. This area is well documented archaeologically.

With this addition, more than a hundred acres were added to the city, and the population of the city increased proportionately. According to some scholars, this increase may have been at least in part due to the influx of refugees from the north after the Assyrian conquest of the northern kingdom of Israel in 721 B.C.E.

https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-sites-places/jerusalem/ancient-jerusalem/
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
The next period Geva considers is the period of the United Monarchy, the time of King David and King Solomon and a couple centuries thereafter (1000 B.C.E. down to about the eighth century B.C.E.). In David’s time, the borders of the city did not change from the previous period. However, King Solomon expanded the confines of the city northward to include the Temple Mount.

This increased the size of the city to about 40 acres, but the increase in population was not proportionate since much of this expansion was taken up with the Temple and royal buildings. “It is likely that Jerusalem attracted new inhabitants of different social classes,” Geva tells us. “Some of these people came to reside in the city as a consequence of their official and religious capacities, while others came to seek a livelihood in its developing economy.”

Geva estimates the population of the city at this time at about 2,000. (Previously, other scholars had estimated the number of people living in the city at this time as 2,000, 2,500 or 4,500–5,000.)

In the mid-eighth century B.C.E., the area usually referred to as the Western Hill was added to the city of Jerusalem. This area is well documented archaeologically.

With this addition, more than a hundred acres were added to the city, and the population of the city increased proportionately. According to some scholars, this increase may have been at least in part due to the influx of refugees from the north after the Assyrian conquest of the northern kingdom of Israel in 721 B.C.E.

https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-sites-places/jerusalem/ancient-jerusalem/

You just need to bring the history up to the early 1st century AD and you'll discover just how enormous the Great Temple was.
And your earlier link showed just how many males could attend a great feast.
Jerusalem was very big, as was the Temple.
 
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