Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe that proves he made a prediction that came true but it does not verify the source. Remember he did the supposed translation of the tablets by scrying them which means a spirit guide of some kind.
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Was Revelation Written About The Distant Future?
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I believe that proves he made a prediction that came true but it does not verify the source. Remember he did the supposed translation of the tablets by scrying them which means a spirit guide of some kind.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe people do but that does not mean that their interpretations are valid.
mistoftime
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Of course they are not valid, the book is just a rather crazy fairy tale.
74x12
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Can you link to the thread?
sealchan
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The real, unexperiencable, unknowable, magical unicorn one where what is is not and what is not is?
sooda
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Some years the Euphrates River slows down to a dribble and its very dry.. Its not unusual and its NOT a sign of the end times.
sooda
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Too lazy to look up scripture?
2 Kings 2:15 15The company of the prophets from Jericho, who were watching, said, "The spirit of Elijah is resting on Elisha." And they went to meet him and bowed to the ground before him.
2 Kings 2:3 3The company of the prophets at Bethel came out to Elisha and asked, "Do you know that the LORD is going to take your master from you today?" "Yes, I know," Elisha replied, "so be quiet."
2 Kings 4:38 38Elisha returned to Gilgal and there was a famine in that region. While the company of the prophets was meeting with him, he said to his servant, "Put on the large pot and cook some stew for these prophets."
1 Samuel 10:5 5"After that you will go to Gibeah of God, where there is a Philistine outpost. As you approach the town, you will meet a procession of prophets coming down from the high place with lyres, timbrels, pipes and harps being played before them, and they will be prophesying.
The Schools of the Prophets - Gospel Gazette Online
www.gospelgazette.com/gazette/2002/jul/page2.htm
There were schools of the prophets in Gibeah (1 Samuel 10:5), Ramah (1 Samuel 19:18-24), Bethel (2 Kings 2:3), Jericho (2 Kings 2:15) and Gilgal (2 Kings 4:38). McClintock and Strong Encyclopedia places this Gibeah in the tribe of Benjamin (1 Samuel 13:15). 7 Gibeah was just north of Jerusalem, not far from Ramah and Bethel.
74x12
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The one where you research, learn and find things out that make you look crazy to people with less knowledge. Yet, you don't care because you're not trying to convince anyone; but just plant the seed.
PruePhillip
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My favorite is Jacob's prophecy of his son Judah.
This was in Egypt ca 2000 BC, Bronze Age.
The Hebrews numbered about 250 people, they were just wandering
shepherds.
Jacob said that in Judah there would be a monarchy - implying a kingdom
and implying a nation. And this nation would have a law.
And this nation would last till the Messiah came. Important to note - last till
the Messiah came. What happens after that? Jacob did not say, only
that the nations would believe in the Messiah. The implication is that
the nation of the Hebrews would not believe.
sooda
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sooda
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Jacob - Amazing Bible Timeline with World History
https://amazingbibletimeline.com/blog/jacob
Jacob is found on the Bible Timeline from 1836 BC to 1689 BC. He was the second of the twin sons born to Rebekah and Issac. The name Jacob is believed to mean one that follows on another’s heels.
Another well-accepted meaning of his name is a deceiver.
https://amazingbibletimeline.com/blog/jacob
Jacob is found on the Bible Timeline from 1836 BC to 1689 BC. He was the second of the twin sons born to Rebekah and Issac. The name Jacob is believed to mean one that follows on another’s heels.
Another well-accepted meaning of his name is a deceiver.
PruePhillip
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We aren't given a date, only a sequence of events.
Had it been given 1 BC it would still resonate with me because
the kingdom of Israel would cease to exist with the coming of
the Messiah. How come? Isn't the Messiah the king who would
restore the kingdom of Israel? Even Jesus' people did not grasp
this - there are TWO Messiahs in scripture - redeemer and king.
Zechariah, amongst others, showed how the two are linked.
Daniel said a nation which conquers Israel will also "cut off" even
the Messiah. This was astonishing to the Jews.
sooda
Veteran Member
Do you have the verse from Zecharia?
His prophetical career probably began in the second year of Darius, king of Persia (520 BC).
His greatest concern appears to have been with the building of the Second Temple.
He was probably not the "Zechariah" mentioned by Jesus in the Gospel of Matthew and the Gospel of Luke.
PruePhillip
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Zech 9
Rejoice greatly, Daughter Zion!
Shout, Daughter Jerusalem!
See, your king comes to you,
righteous and victorious,
lowly and riding on a donkey,
on a colt, the foal of a donkey.
I will take away the chariots from Ephraim
and the warhorses from Jerusalem,
and the battle bow will be broken.
He will proclaim peace to the nations.
His rule will extend from sea to sea
and from the River to the ends of the earth.
As for you, because of the blood of my covenant with you,
I will free your prisoners from the waterless pit.
The Messiah as king is revealed as also being the Messiah
as Redeemer - lowly, riding upon a colt, offering his blood
for a new covenant (the New Testament)
PruePhillip
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Zech 12
On that day I will set out to destroy all the nations that attack Jerusalem.
Mourning for the One They Pierced.
“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem
a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have
pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child...
The Messiah who saves Israel from its enemies is found to be the one
whom the Jewish nation "pierced" (crucified)
sooda
Veteran Member
Jesus didn't save Jerusalem from its enemies..
PruePhillip
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Correct.
This is a prophesy concerning the Messiah as King.
This is what Christians call the "second coming"
and it is yet to happen.
But when it happens the Messiah will conquer the
enemies of Israel - and Zechariah states plainly the
Jews will see they one they despised and killed.
sooda
Veteran Member
Zecharia is talking about Cyrus of Persia who defeated the Babylonians and returned the Jews to Jerusalem. He was considered an anointed king and the messiah by the Jews,
sooda
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Isaiah 45..
The word Messiah means anointed or appointed one. Cyrus was the Persian king who released the Jews from captivity to return to Jerusalem to rebuild the Temple and resettle there just as prophesied, even by Cyrus’s name, in the Book of Isaiah penned almost 150 years before these events took place.
The word Messiah means anointed or appointed one. Cyrus was the Persian king who released the Jews from captivity to return to Jerusalem to rebuild the Temple and resettle there just as prophesied, even by Cyrus’s name, in the Book of Isaiah penned almost 150 years before these events took place.