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Prophecies Aren’t Predictions of the Future

sooda

Veteran Member
Prophets aren’t Fortunetellers or Meteorologists (by C. A. Strine)

How does one explain with any intellectual honesty a Second Coming that Jesus said would come soon but didn’t? As Christopher mentioned in the first post, we believe it comes down to how one understands “predictive prophecy.”

We think that the statements about Jesus’ return in the Gospels are prophecies, which aren’t meant to be predictions of future events. Now that really sounds weird.

Except, it isn’t.

When most people read something called prophecy, especially predictive prophecy, they assume that the statements about the future intend to describe accurately what the prophet understands, through divine inspiration, will actually happen in the future.

We tend to think of prophets like divine meteorologists providing a long-term forecast. Predictions of doom and gloom or images of abundant blessing are taken to be statements about what the future will be like. That’s what prophets do: they tell us now about what things will be like then, some time in the future.

Only that’s not what the Old Testament tells us.

The Book of Jeremiah comes closest to giving a model for how predictive prophecy works, and it is rather different than the “predict the future” model.

Indeed, Jeremiah makes it very clear that some predictive prophecy is not meant to come pass at all.

Let’s look at Jeremiah 18:5-10. This passage explains that God reserves the possibility to change course even after the prophet who speaks on God’s behalf predicts blessing or cursing.

Then the word of the LORD came to me: Can I not do with you, O house of Israel, just as this potter has done? says the LORD. Just like the clay in the potter’s hand, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel. At one moment I may declare concerning a nation or a kingdom, that I will pluck up and break down and destroy it, but if that nation, concerning which I have spoken, turns from its evil, I will change my mind about the disaster that I intended to bring on it. And at another moment I may declare concerning a nation or a kingdom that I will build and plant it, but if it does evil in my sight, not listening to my voice, then I will change my mind about the good that I had intended to do to it.

In other words, God may not send the predicted punishment if the people repent, or conversely withhold a predicted blessing if the people do evil in God’s sight.

Statements about the future are descriptions of how bad it might be, or how abundant God’s blessing could be. It all depends on what people do.

Prophecies are conditional statements. Predictive prophecies explain what is on offer, not what has already been decided.

This dynamic is highlighted later in Jeremiah (ch. 26, to be exact). After having prophesied the destruction of the Temple—obviously not a popular position in Jerusalem—the priests, the prophets, and all the people condemn Jeremiah to death (vv. 7-9) because of his prediction of doom.

But then the elders of the land recall that Micah had predicted a similar fate for Jerusalem. They also recall that, on that occasion, Hezekiah (the king reigning at that time) didn’t try to eliminate Micah because he was irked by his dire prophecy; rather, the threat of destruction provoked Hezekiah to plead with God to spare Jerusalem.

And God did. Crisis averted.

Micah’s prophecy didn’t come to pass, but drove Hezekiah to change his ways. And that made him a good prophet. A very good one indeed.

Prophecy does not simply seek to predict the future, but to change the present. The potential of future disaster is meant to change current behavior, to motivate people to repent, to turn back to God, and to live in a way that will persuade God to hold back judgment.

Or, when blessing is promised, prophecy aims to encourage people to persevere in following God’s commands, to do so with all the more conviction, and to remind them that backsliding into rebellion might convince God not to bestow the good things offered to them at all.

Prophets want to activate certain behaviors in their audiences, not prognosticate future events. They are like parents warning children against foolish behavior and encouraging good behavior, not weather forecasters attempting to tell you whether or not you’ll need an umbrella at noontime tomorrow.

This is the case around the ancient world and the Old Testament (as we discuss in the book
ir
).

Think, for instance, of the book of Jonah. This prophet is no doubt a comic figure, in a comical book, but surely one with a serious point.

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C. A. (Casey) Strine
Why does Jonah resist going to Nineveh? Precisely because he knew that alerting the people of this foreign nation to the potential of God’s punishment would cause them to change their ways (Jon 4:1-4). Jonah wanted God to punish Nineveh; he knew his “prediction” of punishment could change their behavior and avoid that outcome; so he ran away.

In the book we show how this same view of prophecy lies beneath passages in Isaiah, 2 Samuel, early Jewish texts, and, as Christopher will explain in the next post, the New Testament too.

In the book we show how this same view of prophecy lies beneath passages in Isaiah, 2 Samuel, early Jewish texts, and, as Christopher will explain in the next post, the New Testament too.

Prophets are not fortunetellers or weather forecasters. They are not claiming to predict an inevitable, unchanging future, but to change the way that people live in the present.

When we read predictive prophecy—in the Old Testament, the Gospels, or elsewhere—we need to ask what it wants to activate us to do, not what it might prognosticate about the future.

As we’ll see in our next post, this is just what New Testament shows us.

[Part 3 coming tomorrow . . . ]

See some of Pete’s popular books: The Bible Tells Me So (HarperOne, 2014), Inspiration and Incarnation (Baker 2005/2015), and The Sin of Certainty (HarperOne, 2016).

Prophecies Aren’t Predictions of the Future (You Can Look It Up)
 

sooda

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When I was a child I believed Prophets were "future tellers".. I was approaching 30 before I basically woke up one day and said, "DO WHAT?"

Its as silly as a burning bush or Jesus walking on water.

So here is the question. What is a prophet?
 

sooda

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The Schools of the Prophets


The Schools of the Prophets – their origin and their purpose



The schools of the prophets were established by the prophet Samuel. The first mention of the “sons of the prophets”, as all the young men educated that way were called, we find it in 1 Samuel 10, when Saul is anointed as king. (1 Samuel 10:5)

In the days of Samuel there were two schools of the prophets, one in Ramah, where the prophet Samuel lived, and one in Kiryat Yearim, where it was the ark of the covenant.

Later on some more schools of the prophets were established in Bethel (2 Kings 2:3), Jericho (2 Regi 2:15), Gilgal (2 Kings 4:38) etc.

Fathers and mothers in Israel became indifferent to their obligation to God, indifferent to their obligation to their children.

Through unfaithfulness in the home, and idolatrous influences without, many of the Hebrew youth received an education differing widely from that which God had planned for them. They learned the ways of the heathen.

To meet this growing evil, God provided other agencies as an aid to parents in the work of education. From the earliest times, prophets had been recognized as teachers divinely appointed.

In the highest sense the prophet was one who spoke by direct inspiration, communicating to the people the messages he had received from God. But the name was given also to those who, though not so directly inspired, were divinely called to instruct the people in the works and ways of God.

For the training of such a class of teachers, Samuel, by the Lord’s direction, established the schools of the prophets.

These schools were intended to serve as a barrier against the wide-spreading corruption, to provide for the mental and spiritual welfare of the youth, and to promote the prosperity of the nation by furnishing it with men qualified to act in the fear of God as leaders and counselors.

To this end, Samuel gathered companies of young men who were pious, intelligent, and studious. These were called the sons of the prophets…” (Education, 45-46)

Elijah and Elisha were used by God in a very impressive way to stop the wave of general apostasy and to help many Israelites to return to the true and only God.

“For several years after the call of Elisha, Elijah and Elisha labored together, the younger man daily gaining greater preparedness for his work. Elijah had been God’s instrument for the overthrow of gigantic evils…

During these years of united ministry, Elijah from time to time was called upon to meet flagrant evils with stern rebuke…

The schools of the prophets, established by Samuel, had fallen into decay during the years of Israel’s apostasy.

Elijah re-established these schools, making provision for young men to gain an education that would lead them to magnify the law and make it honorable. Three of these schools, one at Gilgal, one at Bethel, and one at Jericho, are mentioned in the record.…

The heart of Elijah was cheered as he saw what was being accomplished by means of these schools.

The work of reformation was not complete, but he could see throughout the kingdom a verification of the word of the Lord, “Yet I have left Me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal.” “(1 Împăraţi 19, 18) (PK 224-225)

“Just before Elijah was taken to heaven, he visited the schools of the prophets, and instructed the students on the most important points of their education.

The lessons he had given them on former visits, he now repeated, impressing upon the minds of the youth the importance of letting simplicity mark every feature of their education.

Only in this way could they receive the mold of heaven, and go forth to work in the ways of the Lord. If conducted as God designs they should be, our schools in these closing days of the message will do a work similar to that done by the schools of the prophets
.” (FE 512)

“Like the Saviour of mankind, of whom he was a type, Elisha in his ministry among men combined the work of healing with that of teaching. Faithfully, untiringly, throughout his long and effective labors, Elisha endeavored to foster and advance the important educational work carried on by the schools of the prophets. In the providence of God his words of instruction to the earnest groups of young men assembled were confirmed by the deep movings of the Holy Spirit, and at times by other unmistakable evidences of his authority as a servant of Jehovah.” (PK 240)

The Schools of the Prophets And Their Curriculum

The chief subjects of study in these schools were the law of God, with the instruction given to Moses, sacred history, sacred music, and poetry. In the records of sacred history were traced the footsteps of Jehovah. The great truths set forth by the types in the service of the sanctuary were brought to view, and faith grasped the central object of all that system—the Lamb of God, that was to take away the sin of the world.

A spirit of devotion was cherished
. Not only were the students taught the duty of prayer, but they were taught how to pray, how to approach their Creator, how to exercise faith in Him, and how to understand and obey the teachings of His Spirit. Sanctified intellect brought forth from the treasure house of God things new and old, and the Spirit of God was manifested in prophecy and sacred song“. (Education 47)

The art of sacred melody was diligently cultivated. No frivolous waltz was heard, nor flippant song that should extol man and divert the attention from God; but sacred, solemn psalms of praise to the Creator, exalting His name and recounting His wondrous works.

Thus music was made to serve a holy purpose, to lift the thoughts to that which was pure and noble and elevating, and to awaken in the soul devotion and gratitude to God.” (FE 97)

The Holy Spirit was eagerly sought for in the schools of the prophets; its transforming influence was to bring even the thoughts into harmony with the will of God, and establish a living connection between earth and heaven.” (FE p.526)

The Schools of the Prophets and the principle of self-supporting

The pupils of these schools sustained themselves by their own labor in tilling the soil or in some mechanical employment. In Israel this was not thought strange or degrading; indeed, it was regarded as a sin to allow children to grow up in ignorance of useful labor. Every youth, whether his parents were rich or poor, was taught some trade.

Even though he was to be educated for holy office, a knowledge of practical life was regarded as essential to the greatest usefulness. Many, also, of the teachers supported themselves by manual labor“. (Ed 47)
 
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MJFlores

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The Schools of the Prophets


The Schools of the Prophets – their origin and their purpose



The schools of the prophets were established by the prophet Samuel. The first mention of the “sons of the prophets”, as all the young men educated that way were called, we find it in 1 Samuel 10, when Saul is anointed as king. (1 Samuel 10:5)

In the days of Samuel there were two schools of the prophets, one in Ramah, where the prophet Samuel lived, and one in Kiryat Yearim, where it was the ark of the covenant.

Later on some more schools of the prophets were established in Bethel (2 Kings 2:3), Jericho (2 Regi 2:15), Gilgal (2 Kings 4:38) etc.

Fathers and mothers in Israel became indifferent to their obligation to God, indifferent to their obligation to their children.

Through unfaithfulness in the home, and idolatrous influences without, many of the Hebrew youth received an education differing widely from that which God had planned for them. They learned the ways of the heathen.

To meet this growing evil, God provided other agencies as an aid to parents in the work of education. From the earliest times, prophets had been recognized as teachers divinely appointed.

In the highest sense the prophet was one who spoke by direct inspiration, communicating to the people the messages he had received from God. But the name was given also to those who, though not so directly inspired, were divinely called to instruct the people in the works and ways of God.

For the training of such a class of teachers, Samuel, by the Lord’s direction, established the schools of the prophets.

These schools were intended to serve as a barrier against the wide-spreading corruption, to provide for the mental and spiritual welfare of the youth, and to promote the prosperity of the nation by furnishing it with men qualified to act in the fear of God as leaders and counselors.

To this end, Samuel gathered companies of young men who were pious, intelligent, and studious. These were called the sons of the prophets…” (Education, 45-46)

Elijah and Elisha were used by God in a very impressive way to stop the wave of general apostasy and to help many Israelites to return to the true and only God.

“For several years after the call of Elisha, Elijah and Elisha labored together, the younger man daily gaining greater preparedness for his work. Elijah had been God’s instrument for the overthrow of gigantic evils…

During these years of united ministry, Elijah from time to time was called upon to meet flagrant evils with stern rebuke…

The schools of the prophets, established by Samuel, had fallen into decay during the years of Israel’s apostasy.

Elijah re-established these schools, making provision for young men to gain an education that would lead them to magnify the law and make it honorable. Three of these schools, one at Gilgal, one at Bethel, and one at Jericho, are mentioned in the record.…

The heart of Elijah was cheered as he saw what was being accomplished by means of these schools.

The work of reformation was not complete, but he could see throughout the kingdom a verification of the word of the Lord, “Yet I have left Me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal.” “(1 Împăraţi 19, 18) (PK 224-225)

“Just before Elijah was taken to heaven, he visited the schools of the prophets, and instructed the students on the most important points of their education.

The lessons he had given them on former visits, he now repeated, impressing upon the minds of the youth the importance of letting simplicity mark every feature of their education.

Only in this way could they receive the mold of heaven, and go forth to work in the ways of the Lord. If conducted as God designs they should be, our schools in these closing days of the message will do a work similar to that done by the schools of the prophets
.” (FE 512)

“Like the Saviour of mankind, of whom he was a type, Elisha in his ministry among men combined the work of healing with that of teaching. Faithfully, untiringly, throughout his long and effective labors, Elisha endeavored to foster and advance the important educational work carried on by the schools of the prophets. In the providence of God his words of instruction to the earnest groups of young men assembled were confirmed by the deep movings of the Holy Spirit, and at times by other unmistakable evidences of his authority as a servant of Jehovah.” (PK 240)

The Schools of the Prophets And Their Curriculum

The chief subjects of study in these schools were the law of God, with the instruction given to Moses, sacred history, sacred music, and poetry. In the records of sacred history were traced the footsteps of Jehovah. The great truths set forth by the types in the service of the sanctuary were brought to view, and faith grasped the central object of all that system—the Lamb of God, that was to take away the sin of the world.

A spirit of devotion was cherished
. Not only were the students taught the duty of prayer, but they were taught how to pray, how to approach their Creator, how to exercise faith in Him, and how to understand and obey the teachings of His Spirit. Sanctified intellect brought forth from the treasure house of God things new and old, and the Spirit of God was manifested in prophecy and sacred song“. (Education 47)

The art of sacred melody was diligently cultivated. No frivolous waltz was heard, nor flippant song that should extol man and divert the attention from God; but sacred, solemn psalms of praise to the Creator, exalting His name and recounting His wondrous works.

Thus music was made to serve a holy purpose, to lift the thoughts to that which was pure and noble and elevating, and to awaken in the soul devotion and gratitude to God.” (FE 97)

The Holy Spirit was eagerly sought for in the schools of the prophets; its transforming influence was to bring even the thoughts into harmony with the will of God, and establish a living connection between earth and heaven.” (FE p.526)

The Schools of the Prophets and the principle of self-supporting

The pupils of these schools sustained themselves by their own labor in tilling the soil or in some mechanical employment. In Israel this was not thought strange or degrading; indeed, it was regarded as a sin to allow children to grow up in ignorance of useful labor. Every youth, whether his parents were rich or poor, was taught some trade.

Even though he was to be educated for holy office, a knowledge of practical life was regarded as essential to the greatest usefulness. Many, also, of the teachers supported themselves by manual labor“. (Ed 47)

I don't know where you are leading us into.
But what the heck...it was long enough to be entertained.
School of the Prophets, huh?
School of the Prophets - Wikipedia
 

sooda

Veteran Member
I don't know where you are leading us into.
But what the heck...it was long enough to be entertained.
School of the Prophets, huh?
School of the Prophets - Wikipedia

You don't read any threads, do you.

The Schools for prophets were in Israel first in the time of Samuel.

There are lots of modern schools for prophets ... There's several in Atlanta.

School of the Prophets: Atlanta - Apocalypse Ministries Store
apocalypseministries.mybigcommerce.com › DVDs
This 21 DVD set Is highly recommended as a teaching and training too l The school was held in Atlanta, GA. with 60 students. Jeremiah Davis and Moses Mason were the Presenters. 4 1.5 hour hours classes were conducted each day. Our purpose: To prepare a people to "Finish The Wo r k" This indepth information is now availabe on 21 DVDs.

  1. Online School of Prophets or Deliverance - Elijah List
    www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word.html?ID=9650
    Mar 06, 2011 · Online School of Prophets or Deliverance. Paid Advertisement Mar 6, 2011 Choose From Two Powerful Online Schools: Online School of Prophets OR Online School of Prophetic Deliverance & Inner Healing. ... Reeni currently resides in the Atlanta, Georgia area with her husband of 25 years, Robert Mederos, and her three children, Eric ...

  2. School Of The Prophets – Heraldsofthemorn
    Heraldsofthemornschool-of-the-prophets
    Welcome to the School Of The Prophets. Below you’ll find the complete class sessions, held in Atlanta, Georgia January, 2013. There are 20 sessions( videos-see below ), May you be blessed as God is putting together a team, to “Finish the Work”.
 

Dawnofhope

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Staff member
Premium Member
Thank you @sooda for another thoughtful post. For simplicity we should endeavour to turns towards God in our actions and words each day. The prophets of God should never be seen as two dimensional characters and their words inspired by God Himself are full of insight and wisdom. I like the idea that God changes His mind in response to how we respond to Him. He may bless us or not depending on our willingness to abide by His counsels and admonitions.
 

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
You don't read any threads, do you.

The Schools for prophets were in Israel first in the time of Samuel.

There are lots of modern schools for prophets ... There's several in Atlanta.

School of the Prophets: Atlanta - Apocalypse Ministries Store
apocalypseministries.mybigcommerce.com › DVDs
This 21 DVD set Is highly recommended as a teaching and training too l The school was held in Atlanta, GA. with 60 students. Jeremiah Davis and Moses Mason were the Presenters. 4 1.5 hour hours classes were conducted each day. Our purpose: To prepare a people to "Finish The Wo r k" This indepth information is now availabe on 21 DVDs.

  1. Online School of Prophets or Deliverance - Elijah List
    www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word.html?ID=9650
    Mar 06, 2011 · Online School of Prophets or Deliverance. Paid Advertisement Mar 6, 2011 Choose From Two Powerful Online Schools: Online School of Prophets OR Online School of Prophetic Deliverance & Inner Healing. ... Reeni currently resides in the Atlanta, Georgia area with her husband of 25 years, Robert Mederos, and her three children, Eric ...

  2. School Of The Prophets – Heraldsofthemorn
    Heraldsofthemornschool-of-the-prophets
    Welcome to the School Of The Prophets. Below you’ll find the complete class sessions, held in Atlanta, Georgia January, 2013. There are 20 sessions( videos-see below ), May you be blessed as God is putting together a team, to “Finish the Work”.

It would be nice if there could be some or one prophecy
 

IndigoChild5559

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@IndigoChild5559

@Landon Caeli
@rider
@Fool

When I was a child I believed Prophets were "future tellers".. I was approaching 30 before I basically woke up one day and said, "DO WHAT?"

Its as silly as a burning bush or Jesus walking on water.

So here is the question. What is a prophet?
It depends on what religion you ask. For Jews, a prophet was a man who spoke for God to the King, and to Israel, not a fortune teller. He would advise the King whether to go to war or make peace, for example. He would tell Israel that God was displeased at their unfaithfulness and that there would be consequences, but that God would remain faithful to them.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
It would be nice if there could be some or one prophecy

Why does Jonah resist going to Nineveh?

Precisely because he knew that alerting the people of this foreign nation to the potential of God’s punishment would cause them to change their ways (Jon 4:1-4).

Jonah wanted God to punish Nineveh; he knew his “prediction” of punishment could change their behavior and avoid that outcome; so he ran away.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
It depends on what religion you ask. For Jews, a prophet was a man who spoke for God to the King, and to Israel, not a fortune teller. He would advise the King whether to go to war or make peace, for example. He would tell Israel that God was displeased at their unfaithfulness and that there would be consequences, but that God would remain faithful to them.

@Niblo
@sayak83

I have come to the conclusion that prophets were many things.... The voice of the community, the conscience of the community.. keen observers and astute analysts.
 
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MJFlores

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Why does Jonah resist going to Nineveh?

Precisely because he knew that alerting the people of this foreign nation to the potential of God’s punishment would cause them to change their ways (Jon 4:1-4).

Jonah wanted God to punish Nineveh; he knew his “prediction” of punishment could change their behavior and avoid that outcome; so he ran away.

Would be reading about Jonah. Its worship service today. I would be leaving in an hour.

@IndigoChild5559
@MJFlores

If Prophets were fortune tellers who could predict the future, there would be NO free will.

It is God who tells the prophets what would happen. Even before the NT Bible was compiled and bounded, God already knows what would happen one, two and three millennia before the first person could say Matthew.

There is individual free will alright, but God knows the events that would happen.
The end of the world - God already knows when that time will be up.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Would be reading about Jonah. Its worship service today. I would be leaving in an hour.



It is God who tells the prophets what would happen. Even before the NT Bible was compiled and bounded, God already knows what would happen one, two and three millennia before the first person could say Matthew.

There is individual free will alright, but God knows the events that would happen.
The end of the world - God already knows when that time will be up.

Like Jeremiah, Ezekiel began his public career before the destruction of the first Temple and was instructed by G-d to bring the attention of the Jews (particularly those already in Babylonia) to the oncoming tragedy.

Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel • Torah.org

Both Jeremiah and Ezekiel lived AFTER King David.
 

The Anointed

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The Schools of the Prophets


The Schools of the Prophets – their origin and their purpose



The schools of the prophets were established by the prophet Samuel. The first mention of the “sons of the prophets”, as all the young men educated that way were called, we find it in 1 Samuel 10, when Saul is anointed as king. (1 Samuel 10:5)

In the days of Samuel there were two schools of the prophets, one in Ramah, where the prophet Samuel lived, and one in Kiryat Yearim, where it was the ark of the covenant.

Later on some more schools of the prophets were established in Bethel (2 Kings 2:3), Jericho (2 Regi 2:15), Gilgal (2 Kings 4:38) etc.

Fathers and mothers in Israel became indifferent to their obligation to God, indifferent to their obligation to their children.

Through unfaithfulness in the home, and idolatrous influences without, many of the Hebrew youth received an education differing widely from that which God had planned for them. They learned the ways of the heathen.

To meet this growing evil, God provided other agencies as an aid to parents in the work of education. From the earliest times, prophets had been recognized as teachers divinely appointed.

In the highest sense the prophet was one who spoke by direct inspiration, communicating to the people the messages he had received from God. But the name was given also to those who, though not so directly inspired, were divinely called to instruct the people in the works and ways of God.

For the training of such a class of teachers, Samuel, by the Lord’s direction, established the schools of the prophets.

These schools were intended to serve as a barrier against the wide-spreading corruption, to provide for the mental and spiritual welfare of the youth, and to promote the prosperity of the nation by furnishing it with men qualified to act in the fear of God as leaders and counselors.

To this end, Samuel gathered companies of young men who were pious, intelligent, and studious. These were called the sons of the prophets…” (Education, 45-46)

Elijah and Elisha were used by God in a very impressive way to stop the wave of general apostasy and to help many Israelites to return to the true and only God.

“For several years after the call of Elisha, Elijah and Elisha labored together, the younger man daily gaining greater preparedness for his work. Elijah had been God’s instrument for the overthrow of gigantic evils…

During these years of united ministry, Elijah from time to time was called upon to meet flagrant evils with stern rebuke…

The schools of the prophets, established by Samuel, had fallen into decay during the years of Israel’s apostasy.

Elijah re-established these schools, making provision for young men to gain an education that would lead them to magnify the law and make it honorable. Three of these schools, one at Gilgal, one at Bethel, and one at Jericho, are mentioned in the record.…

The heart of Elijah was cheered as he saw what was being accomplished by means of these schools.

The work of reformation was not complete, but he could see throughout the kingdom a verification of the word of the Lord, “Yet I have left Me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal.” “(1 Împăraţi 19, 18) (PK 224-225)

“Just before Elijah was taken to heaven, he visited the schools of the prophets, and instructed the students on the most important points of their education.

The lessons he had given them on former visits, he now repeated, impressing upon the minds of the youth the importance of letting simplicity mark every feature of their education.

Only in this way could they receive the mold of heaven, and go forth to work in the ways of the Lord. If conducted as God designs they should be, our schools in these closing days of the message will do a work similar to that done by the schools of the prophets
.” (FE 512)

“Like the Saviour of mankind, of whom he was a type, Elisha in his ministry among men combined the work of healing with that of teaching. Faithfully, untiringly, throughout his long and effective labors, Elisha endeavored to foster and advance the important educational work carried on by the schools of the prophets. In the providence of God his words of instruction to the earnest groups of young men assembled were confirmed by the deep movings of the Holy Spirit, and at times by other unmistakable evidences of his authority as a servant of Jehovah.” (PK 240)

The Schools of the Prophets And Their Curriculum

The chief subjects of study in these schools were the law of God, with the instruction given to Moses, sacred history, sacred music, and poetry. In the records of sacred history were traced the footsteps of Jehovah. The great truths set forth by the types in the service of the sanctuary were brought to view, and faith grasped the central object of all that system—the Lamb of God, that was to take away the sin of the world.

A spirit of devotion was cherished
. Not only were the students taught the duty of prayer, but they were taught how to pray, how to approach their Creator, how to exercise faith in Him, and how to understand and obey the teachings of His Spirit. Sanctified intellect brought forth from the treasure house of God things new and old, and the Spirit of God was manifested in prophecy and sacred song“. (Education 47)

The art of sacred melody was diligently cultivated. No frivolous waltz was heard, nor flippant song that should extol man and divert the attention from God; but sacred, solemn psalms of praise to the Creator, exalting His name and recounting His wondrous works.

Thus music was made to serve a holy purpose, to lift the thoughts to that which was pure and noble and elevating, and to awaken in the soul devotion and gratitude to God.” (FE 97)

The Holy Spirit was eagerly sought for in the schools of the prophets; its transforming influence was to bring even the thoughts into harmony with the will of God, and establish a living connection between earth and heaven.” (FE p.526)

The Schools of the Prophets and the principle of self-supporting

The pupils of these schools sustained themselves by their own labor in tilling the soil or in some mechanical employment. In Israel this was not thought strange or degrading; indeed, it was regarded as a sin to allow children to grow up in ignorance of useful labor. Every youth, whether his parents were rich or poor, was taught some trade.

Even though he was to be educated for holy office, a knowledge of practical life was regarded as essential to the greatest usefulness. Many, also, of the teachers supported themselves by manual labor“. (Ed 47)

My, my, my, What a lot of cutting and posting you have done from your mates, who, like yourself would say almost anything in their futile attempts to discredit the words of the Lord.

For every atheist scholar that you put forward, we can find a scholar who is a believer, and would contradict your false scholarship, but you would not believe them as we do not believe your erroneous Scholars.
 

sooda

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My, my, my, What a lot of cutting and posting you have done from your mates, who, like yourself would say almost anything in their futile attempts to discredit the words of the Lord.

For every atheist scholar that you put forward, we can find a scholar who is a believer, and would contradict your false scholarship, but you would not believe them as we do not believe your erroneous Scholars.

Orthodox Judaism doesn't consider Daniel a prophet.
Judaism 101: Prophets and Prophecy

Jewish people are a lot smarter than you give them credit for.
 
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