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History of the Jews in Egypt

sooda

Veteran Member
After their expulsion from Spain in 1492, more Sephardi and Karaite Jews began to emigrate to Egypt and their numbers increased significantly with the growth of trading prospects after the opening of the Suez Canal in 1869. As a result, Jews from all over the territories of the Ottoman Empire as well as Italy and Greece started to settle in the main cities of Egypt, where they thrived.

But, that's not the beginning of the Jewish story in Egypt.

The history of the Jews of Alexandria dates from the foundation of the city by Alexander the Great, 332 B.C., at which they were present (Josephus, "Contra Ap." ii. 4; "Ant." xix. 5, § 2). From the very beginning their numbers seem to have been considerable; at all events, they formed a very large portion of the population under the successors of Alexander.

A separate section of the city was assigned to them by the first Ptolemies, so that they might not be hindered in the observance of their laws by continual contact with the pagan population ("B. J." ii. 18, § 7). The site of this ancient Jewish quarter—theexistence of which is testified to also by Strabo ("Ant." xiv. 7, § 2)—can be fixed with tolerable accuracy; for Apion derisively refers to the Jews as a people living on a harborless shore; whereupon Josephus rejoins that this is a very excellent situation; for, as a consequence, they resided in the vicinity of the Royal Palace("Contra Ap." ii. 4).

The palace was built on the spit of land called Lochias, and the harbor was in proximity to it, west of Lochias. Therefore the Jews must have inhabited that part of the city that extended eastward from the palace.

Moreover, the whole city was divided into five districts, which were named after the first five letters of the Greek alphabet. Of these five districts two were denominated Jewish districts, because the majority of their inhabitants were Jews (Philo, "In Flaccum," § 8; ed. Mangey, ii. 525). From this quite a clear conception of the strength of the Jewish population may be formed.

The Jewish Quarter.

According to Josephus, the fourth or "delta" district was populated by the Jews ("B. J." ii. 18, § 8); which fact warrants the inference that this isolation already existed in the time of Josephus (compare also "Contra Ap." ii. 4). At that time, however, the isolation was not strictly enforced; for, according to Philo, there were many Jewish dwellings scattered throughout the city. There were even synagogues distributed all over the city (Philo, "De Legatione ad Cajum," § 20; ed. Mangey, ii. 565).

ALEXANDRIA, Egypt—Ancient (Jewish Encyclopedia) - The Full Wiki

As regards number and position, the Jews in Alexandria enjoyed a greater degree of political independence there than elsewhere. While the Jewish inhabitants of other cities of the Roman empire, without any political separation, formed private societies for religious purposes, or else became a corporation of foreigners like the Egyptian and Phoenician merchants in the large commercial centers, those of Alexandria constituted an independent political community, side by side with that of the heathen population.

Strabo thus describes their constitution ("Ant." xiv. 7, § 2): "At their head stands an ethnarch, who rules and judges the people; and, like the archon of an independent city, gives special attention to the proper fulfilment of the duties and to the compliance with the various regulations."



Investigating the Origin of the Ancient Jewish Community at Elephantine: A Review

Elephantine is an island in the Nile River, to the west of Aswan (on the eastern bank of the Nile). In ancient times, the island has been the southern-most city of Egypt. South of Elephantine, for a distance of approximately 223 km, extends the Nubian Desert where even the Nile banks are inhospitable. Beyond this distance lie the lands of Sudan, homeland of the Nubian civilization, which to ancient Egypt represented a prominent military threat. Trade relations between Egypt and Nubia continued active throughout history and Elephantine was the point where trade routes from Nubia met. Hence, to the ancient Egyptians, the city represented the 'door to the South'.

The name Elephantine is Greek meaning 'elephant' and this expresses the city's function as a gate to the South, since elephants were brought from the south towards Nubia. Another name for the city by ancient Egyptians is 'Yebo', which also meant 'elephant'.

A Jewish garrison community that was already settled in the island by the fifth century B.C., played an essential role in the interaction between Nubia and Egypt. Some historians and archeologists directed attention and research towards this Jewish community for it provides a wide range of evidence for the earliest Diaspora Jewish settlement.

The task of the Jewish garrison in Elephantine was to protect the Egyptian border with Nubia (Kush). However, the garrison was also associated with insuring the safe passage of products coming from/to Nubia. Adjacent to the Jewish settlement in Elephantine was the Aramean garrison at Syene (Aswan), on the eastern bank of the Nile. While less evidence was available for the Armaean garrison at Syene, extensive records documented life within the Jewish garrison at Elephantine. In Elephantine the Jews built a temple for 'Yahweh', which resembled the Salomon's temple in Jerusalem. During the fifth century B.C., contemporary with the Persian rule of Egypt, the temple was destroyed by Egyptian rebels and at which time the Jewish settlement mysteriously vanished.

A collection of archives (known as the Elephantine Papyri) mostly written in Aramaic, and some in Hieratic and Demotic is found. The archives are concerned with diverse matters of the community; i.e. political, legal, social, economic, and religious. Some documents that belonged to members of the Aramean garrison were also found at Syene.

The collection of the archives has been first discovered and purchased by Giovanni Belzoni from a local market in Aswan (Egypt). A.H. Sayce and A.E. Cowley published the first collection of the papyri in 1906. Later excavations revealed more Papyri and ostraca. Thereafter, more publications followed such as those by W. Staerk and A. Ungnad.

Most of the archives associated with the Elephantine Jewish community date back to the Persian period, i.e. after 525 B.C. Owners of the contracts secured their documents by burying them under the floors of their houses and keeping them inside pottery vessels and jars. The Legal documents found are concerned with lawsuits; sales; marriage, loan, gifts, and other contracts related to property ownerships. The judicial court to which these contracts were drawn in accordance is uncertain (i.e., Persian or local Jewish courts). Although most of the contracts were written in Aramaic, they seem to have followed the same formula as that of the Egyptian contracts.

It is proven for certain, nonetheless, that members of this community were Jews. There names, identity, lifestyle, and religious traditions leave no doubt for their Jewishness. There is proof that they had observed the Shabbat and the Passover, and probably most of the other traditional Jewish holidays. Of special importance is the 'Passover Letter' which dated back to 419 B.C. The letter was from Hananiah to Jedenaiah of the Jewish garrison at Elephantine. On his letter, Hennania instructed the Jews to "keep the Festival of Unleavened Bread" and to "be pure and take heed."(C:21:6) along with other instructions related to the observance of the festival. Scholars suspect that this Hennaniah might have been the brother of the legendary Biblical figure, Nehemiah.

However, the Jews were not living in total isolation from their pagan environment, which, beside the Arameans, included Greeks, Babylonians, and Egyptians. Cases of intermarriages are documented and names bearing both Pagan and Jewish elements existed.

Family archives, on the other hand, provided a wide range of information with regard to the social structure that this Jewish community had enjoyed.

p Members of the garrison owned Egyptian slaves and took handmaidens regularly. Although the living standards at Elephantine are not well known, the Jewish settlers were certainly wealthier than the average Egyptian commoners. Some of them seemed to be real state, owning several houses; many kept more than one Egyptian slave and purchased expensive gifts for their brides -- 10 Shekels on average.

One of the most illustrative documents in the Elephantine Archives is the marriage contract of Ananiah b. Azariah, who was a treasury keeper of the Temple, to the Egyptian slave girl Tamut. Although Tamut was the wife of Ananiah after the contract was drawn, she still belonged to her original owner Meshullam b. Zaccur.

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Ancient Sudan~ Nubia: Investigating the Origin of the Ancient Jewish Community at Elephantine: A Review
 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
The Jews were also among the Israelites who entered Egypt somewhere around 1780 B.C., and made slaves of the Egyptians without striking a blow. See Genesis 47: 20-21.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
The Jews were also among the Israelites who entered Egypt somewhere around 1780 B.C., and made slaves of the Egyptians without striking a blow. See Genesis 47: 20-21.

No one ever enslaved the Egyptians.. Joseph bought the land for Pharaoh and ordinary Egyptians worked to produce food. Where do you get the slave bit?

Joseph was sold to the Ishmaelites as a slave, but Joseph didn't enslave Egyptians.

Abraham visited Egypt between the middle of the 11th and the 13th dynasty, and most probably under one of the earliest Pharaohs of the 12th. This wasn't the only time Hebrews or people of the Semitic race entered Egypt.

Every time there was drought in Canaan people headed for the Nile delta. You have an epic story created around an ordinary event. That's what didactic literature does.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
See Jer. 44 for context.

Jeremiah referred to a "Migdol" in Egypt, (Jeremiah 44:1) an island in the Nile, and Ezekiel referred to the Migdol of Syene, in Upper Egypt, in the context of the seat of government.
Migdol - Wikipedia

I don't know why whoever wrote this line believes there to be a difference between Jeremiah's and Ezekiel's Migdol, considering that they are both mentioned alongside Pathros and Noph.

The modern city has expanded and includes the formerly separate community on the island of Elephantine...
Aswan is the ancient city of Swenett, later known as Syene...
Aswan - Wikipedia

The Egyptian name 'Ib apparently means ivory/tusk. It struck me that Migdol, Hebrew for "tower" might be a Jewish name for the same formation that lead to the Egyptian "tusk".
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The Anointed

Well-Known Member
No one ever enslaved the Egyptians.. Joseph bought the land for Pharaoh and ordinary Egyptians worked to produce food. Where do you get the slave bit?

Joseph was sold to the Ishmaelites as a slave, but Joseph didn't enslave Egyptians.

Abraham visited Egypt between the middle of the 11th and the 13th dynasty, and most probably under one of the earliest Pharaohs of the 12th. This wasn't the only time Hebrews or people of the Semitic race entered Egypt.

Every time there was drought in Canaan people headed for the Nile delta. You have an epic story created around an ordinary event. That's what didactic literature does.

soda wrote...….. No one ever enslaved the Egyptians.. Joseph bought the land for Pharaoh and ordinary Egyptians worked to produce food. Where do you get the slave bit?

The Anointed....... During the seven years of plenty, Joseph gathered a percentage of the Egyptian grain crop as a tax, which was stored in silos throughout Egypt. In the early stages of the great seven-year drought, the Egyptians had to buy their grain from Joseph, when their money had all gone they traded their possessions and livestock, after which, they were forced to sign their land over for grain in order to survive: saying; [Genesis 47: 18-19.] “We cannot hide from our LORD the fact that since our money is gone and our livestock belongs to you, there is nothing left for our LORD except our bodies and our land. 19Why should we perish before your eyes-we and our land as well? Buy us and our land in exchange for food, and we with our land will be slaves to Pharaoh. Give us seed so that we may live and not die, and that the land may not become desolate."

Genesis 47: 20-21. Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for the king. Every Egyptian was forced to sell their land, because the famine was so severe; Joseph made slaves of all the people from one end of Egypt to the other, without striking a blow.

You did say that you have read the bible seven times, didn't you?

sooda wrote...…. Abraham visited Egypt between the middle of the 11th and the 13th dynasty, and most probably under one of the earliest Pharaohs of the 12th. This wasn't the only time Hebrews or people of the Semitic race entered Egypt.

The Anointed....... Well I'm glad to see that you believe the scriptures, which state that Abraham visited Egypt, but your dates are way out of whack.

From the Encarta encyclopedia: “Hyksos,” Semitic invaders who conquered Egypt in the early part of the 17th century BC and founded the '15th Dynasty'. Sweeping south into Egypt, probably from Palestine and Syria, they and their nomadic followers captured Memphis and exacted tribute from the rest of the country. They established a stronghold at Avaris (possibly the later Tanis), on the northeastern border of the Nile delta, but left the territory above Memphis under the rule of tributary princes of the old nobility. These vassals started the nationalistic revolt that finally, under Ahmose I (reigned 1570-1546 BC), founder of the 18th Dynasty, drove out the foreign rulers.”

From ‘The World Book Dictionary,’ (Hyksos) “A succession of six foreign rulers of Egypt—from about 1730 B.C. to about 1570 B.C; Shepherd Kings.” --- And from the Encyclopedia Britannica, ‘Hyksos’, invaders who were also called the Shepherd Kings, who in the time of “King Tutimaios” entered Egypt and took possession of it without striking a blow and it is said here that Josephus the historian, identifies them with the Israelites and that they left Egypt in 1567 B.C. some 40 years before the destruction of Jericho.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
soda wrote...….. No one ever enslaved the Egyptians.. Joseph bought the land for Pharaoh and ordinary Egyptians worked to produce food. Where do you get the slave bit?

The Anointed....... During the seven years of plenty, Joseph gathered a percentage of the Egyptian grain crop as a tax, which was stored in silos throughout Egypt. In the early stages of the great seven-year drought, the Egyptians had to buy their grain from Joseph, when their money had all gone they traded their possessions and livestock, after which, they were forced to sign their land over for grain in order to survive: saying; [Genesis 47: 18-19.] “We cannot hide from our LORD the fact that since our money is gone and our livestock belongs to you, there is nothing left for our LORD except our bodies and our land. 19Why should we perish before your eyes-we and our land as well? Buy us and our land in exchange for food, and we with our land will be slaves to Pharaoh. Give us seed so that we may live and not die, and that the land may not become desolate."

Genesis 47: 20-21. Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for the king. Every Egyptian was forced to sell their land, because the famine was so severe; Joseph made slaves of all the people from one end of Egypt to the other, without striking a blow.

You did say that you have read the bible seven times, didn't you?

sooda wrote...…. Abraham visited Egypt between the middle of the 11th and the 13th dynasty, and most probably under one of the earliest Pharaohs of the 12th. This wasn't the only time Hebrews or people of the Semitic race entered Egypt.

Well I'm glad to see that you believe the scriptures, which state that Abraham visited Egypt

From the Encarta encyclopedia: “Hyksos,” Semitic invaders who conquered Egypt in the early part of the 17th century BC and founded the '15th Dynasty'. Sweeping south into Egypt, probably from Palestine and Syria, they and their nomadic followers captured Memphis and exacted tribute from the rest of the country. They established a stronghold at Avaris (possibly the later Tanis), on the northeastern border of the Nile delta, but left the territory above Memphis under the rule of tributary princes of the old nobility. These vassals started the nationalistic revolt that finally, under Ahmose I (reigned 1570-1546 BC), founder of the 18th Dynasty, drove out the foreign rulers.”

From ‘The World Book Dictionary,’ (Hyksos) “A succession of six foreign rulers of Egypt—from about 1730 B.C. to about 1570 B.C; Shepherd Kings.” --- And from the Encyclopedia Britannica, ‘Hyksos’, invaders who were also called the Shepherd Kings, who in the time of “King Tutimaios” entered Egypt and took possession of it without striking a blow and it is said here that Josephus the historian, identifies them with the Israelites and that they left Egypt in 1567 B.C. some 40 years before the destruction of Jericho.

Well, I guess you just proved the Hyksos weren't Hebrews. Jericho has been destroyed by earthquakes many, many times.. That's why there are some 9 layers.. You may want to read Kenyon's findings again.. I think you misunderstood.

Donkeys fit for Prophets, Saints, and Kings - the-wayfarer.com

the-wayfarer.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=208:...

When Abraham took his son to the mountain to worship, he rode a donkey (Genesis 22:3). Moses put his wife and sons on a donkey and started back for Egypt (Exodus 4:19-21). In Judges, one judge said that he had 30 sons who rode 30 donkeys - they were the …
 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
Well, I guess you just proved the Hyksos weren't Hebrews. Jericho has been destroyed by earthquakes many, many times.. That's why there are some 9 layers.. You may want to read Kenyon's findings again.. I think you misunderstood.

Donkeys fit for Prophets, Saints, and Kings - the-wayfarer.com

the-wayfarer.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=208:...

When Abraham took his son to the mountain to worship, he rode a donkey (Genesis 22:3). Moses put his wife and sons on a donkey and started back for Egypt (Exodus 4:19-21). In Judges, one judge said that he had 30 sons who rode 30 donkeys - they were the …

No mother, I did not misunderstand.

Kathleen Kenyon, a most respected archaeologist dug at Jericho over the seasons between 1952 to 1958, her results were confirmed in 1995 by radiocarbon tests, which dated the destruction of Jericho to 1562 BC (Plus/minus 38 years) with a certainty of 95%.

The radiocarbon tests which dated the destruction of Jericho to 1562 BC (plus/minus 38 years) with a certainty of 95%, confirm that the biblical date of 1527 BC for the destruction, agrees with Kathleen Kenyon’s findings.

1562 (minus 38 years) [1562-38=1524 BC.] this would mean that Jericho fell somewhere between 1562 and 1524 BC, close enough to the 40 years after Josephus’ date for the Exodus of the Israelite shepherd kings in 1567. [1567-40=1527 BC]

Now would you like me to recount how many times it is mentioned in 1st and 2nd Kings alone, Just how many times the horses of Israel are mentioned.

No! Of course you wouldn't, why embarrass yourself once again, by saying such rubbish that the Israelites did not have horses, because the country was too stony. What utter rubbish you come out with.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
No mother, I did not misunderstand.

Kathleen Kenyon, a most respected archaeologist dug at Jericho over the seasons between 1952 to 1958, her results were confirmed in 1995 by radiocarbon tests, which dated the destruction of Jericho to 1562 BC (Plus/minus 38 years) with a certainty of 95%.

The radiocarbon tests which dated the destruction of Jericho to 1562 BC (plus/minus 38 years) with a certainty of 95%, confirm that the biblical date of 1527 BC for the destruction, agrees with Kathleen Kenyon’s findings.

1562 (minus 38 years) [1562-38=1524 BC.] this would mean that Jericho fell somewhere between 1562 and 1524 BC, close enough to the 40 years after Josephus’ date for the Exodus of the Israelite shepherd kings in 1567. [1567-40=1527 BC]

Now would you like me to recount how many times it is mentioned in 1st and 2nd Kings alone, Just how many times the horses of Israel are mentioned.

No! Of course you wouldn't, why embarrass yourself once again, by saying such rubbish that the Israelites did not have horses, because the country was too stony. What utter rubbish you come out with.

I know about Kenyon.. The first time I went to Jericho was in 1959. Jericho was abandoned during the time of Joshua.. and had been destroyed by earthquakes many, many times.

LOLOL.. Haven't you figured out yet that the OT is one endless, grandiose exaggeration?

They were a small, impoverished tribe in bandit territory surrounded by wealthy, powerful neighbors. The way they embellished Solomon's story is actually comical.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
No one ever enslaved the Egyptians.. Joseph bought the land for Pharaoh and ordinary Egyptians worked to produce food. Where do you get the slave bit?

Joseph was sold to the Ishmaelites as a slave, but Joseph didn't enslave Egyptians.

Abraham visited Egypt between the middle of the 11th and the 13th dynasty, and most probably under one of the earliest Pharaohs of the 12th. This wasn't the only time Hebrews or people of the Semitic race entered Egypt.

Every time there was drought in Canaan people headed for the Nile delta. You have an epic story created around an ordinary event. That's what didactic literature does.
Sooda, how is it you call yourself a Christian, yet reject the book of Exodus in your Bible? It seems like you willfully refuse to mention that the Egyptians enslaved the Israelites.
 

9-18-1

Active Member
In regards to the Hebrews and Egypt, the most important point to consider is Moses. If the history of Moses is falsified, any history stretching back further (modified/re-written and ongoing) suffers the same. The one thing we can rely on is the Egyptians' unrelenting attention to detail/accuracy regarding history (of rulership and associated milestones).

The story of Moses (Mosis; not a Hebrew name) is in fact falsified. There was no Hebrew Moses - it was actually an Egyptian king. This king (Akhunatun) would do all of the same Moses did (learn in the mystery school, become a powerful co-regent, install monotheism [Atun/YHVH], get kicked out and come back [same as Muhammad] and wander in the desert with followers. It is the same story/person, except falsified and imbued with a potent "deliverance" out of Egypt from the god YHVH.

Upon this falsification all else is built: and this is how and why the blood still spills and the Jews are always involved [ie. Muhammad/Hitler] and blamed. It is true: the Jews did (and do) falsify history to suit them. This is indeed a big problem: not one Hitler was unaware of (in reading his Mein Kampf).

However both Muhammad and Hitler eventually were played by their hatred for Jews, by Jews themselves. This is the trap people fall into: it creates a paranoid schizophrenia wherein the leader is constantly paranoid that Jews are plotting in the background.

This is also why "belief" is not a virtue - it is a vice which enslaves. The solution (Final) Hitler found resolve in was the wrong one re: genocide. That is precisely what the Abrahamic religions manufacture: genocide machines against perceived sources of all problems on the planet. It is not the Jew that is the problem.

The problem is "belief" is not a virtue. It is *the* principle vice enslaving humanity being exploited by wealthy families who *own* shares in these monotheisms such as Judaism/Christianity/Islam. These are businesses on the Top: "religions" on the bottom. None have any practical basis: all "belief"-based.

Humanity will not wake up until all "belief"-based institutions are discarded in favor of a better, more practical model of which involves three principles: understanding (both sides of) conflicts [leads to] resolutions [leads to] World Peace. If world peace truly is the object (Islam claiming itself to be it) there is no other model that does not end in "belief"-based catastrophe.
 
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sooda

Veteran Member
Sooda, how is it you call yourself a Christian, yet reject the book of Exodus in your Bible? It seems like you willfully refuse to mention that the Egyptians enslaved the Israelites.

The Israelis know Exodus is a founding myth and have said so publicly.
 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
I know about Kenyon.. The first time I went to Jericho was in 1959. Jericho was abandoned during the time of Joshua.. and had been destroyed by earthquakes many, many times.

LOLOL.. Haven't you figured out yet that the OT is one endless, grandiose exaggeration?

They were a small, impoverished tribe in bandit territory surrounded by wealthy, powerful neighbors. The way they embellished Solomon's story is actually comical.

Good heavens you come up with some rubbish don't you grandma?
 

sooda

Veteran Member
The Exodus as myth and history
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There is an almost universal consensus among scholars that the Exodus story is best understood as myth; more specifically, it is a "charter" (or foundation) myth, a story told to explain a society's origins and to provide the ideological foundation for its culture and institutions.

While a few scholars continue to discuss the potential historicity or plausibility of the Exodus story, for historians of ancient Israel it is no longer seen as viable and archaeologists have abandoned it as "a fruitless pursuit" (Dever, 2001). There is no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt, and the Sinai Peninsula shows almost no sign of any occupation for the entire 2nd millennium BCE (even Kadesh-Barnea, where the Israelites are said to have spent 38 years, was uninhabited prior to the establishment of the Israelite monarchy).

In contrast to the absence of evidence for the Egyptian captivity and wilderness wanderings, there are ample signs of Israel's evolution within Canaan from native Canaanite roots.

exodus myth - Bing
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Good heavens you come up with some rubbish don't you grandma?

"This is what archaeologists have learned from their excavations in the Land of Israel: the Israelites were never in Egypt, did not wander in the desert, did not conquer the land in a military campaign and did not pass it on to the 12 tribes of Israel. Perhaps even harder to swallow is the fact that the united monarchy of David and Solomon, which is described by the Bible as a regional power, was at most a small tribal kingdom. ..... Most of those who are engaged in scientific work in the interlocking spheres of the Bible, archaeology and the history of the Jewish people -

Moses Never Existed, Exodus Never Happened, Scholars Agree - HOME
 

sooda

Veteran Member
In regards to the Hebrews and Egypt, the most important point to consider is Moses. If the history of Moses is falsified, any history stretching back further (modified/re-written and ongoing) suffers the same. The one thing we can rely on is the Egyptians' unrelenting attention to detail/accuracy regarding history (of rulership and associated milestones).

The story of Moses (Mosis; not a Hebrew name) is in fact falsified. There was no Hebrew Moses - it was actually an Egyptian king. This king (Akhunatun) would do all of the same Moses did (learn in the mystery school, become a powerful co-regent, install monotheism [Atun/YHVH], get kicked out and come back [same as Muhammad] and wander in the desert with followers. It is the same story/person, except falsified and imbued with a potent "deliverance" out of Egypt from the god YHVH.

Upon this falsification all else is built: and this is how and why the blood still spills and the Jews are always involved [ie. Muhammad/Hitler] and blamed. It is true: the Jews did (and do) falsify history to suit them. This is indeed a big problem: not one Hitler was unaware of (in reading his Mein Kampf).

However both Muhammad and Hitler eventually were played by their hatred for Jews, by Jews themselves. This is the trap people fall into: it creates a paranoid schizophrenia wherein the leader is constantly paranoid that Jews are plotting in the background.

This is also why "belief" is not a virtue - it is a vice which enslaves. The solution (Final) Hitler found resolve in was the wrong one re: genocide. That is precisely what the Abrahamic religions manufacture: genocide machines against perceived sources of all problems on the planet. It is not the Jew that is the problem.

The problem is "belief" is not a virtue. It is *the* principle vice enslaving humanity being exploited by wealthy families who *own* shares in these monotheisms such as Judaism/Christianity/Islam. These are businesses on the Top: "religions" on the bottom. None have any practical basis: all "belief"-based.

Humanity will not wake up until all "belief"-based institutions are discarded in favor of a better, more practical model of which involves three principles: understanding (both sides of) conflicts [leads to] resolutions [leads to] World Peace. If world peace truly is the object (Islam claiming itself to be it) there is no other model that does not end in "belief"-based catastrophe.


Most of those who are engaged in scientific work in the interlocking spheres of the Bible, archaeology and the history of the Jewish people - and who once went into the field looking for proof to corroborate the Bible story - now agree that the historic events relating to the stages of the Jewish people's emergence are radically different from what that story tells." (in an article in the Jewish magazine Haaretz, as republished on):


Moses Never Existed, Exodus Never Happened, Scholars Agree - HOME
 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
Most of those who are engaged in scientific work in the interlocking spheres of the Bible, archaeology and the history of the Jewish people - and who once went into the field looking for proof to corroborate the Bible story - now agree that the historic events relating to the stages of the Jewish people's emergence are radically different from what that story tells." (in an article in the Jewish magazine Haaretz, as republished on):


Moses Never Existed, Exodus Never Happened, Scholars Agree - HOME

And how long do your chosen scholars, from whose erroneous work you are continually copying and pasting, believe that the Israelites are said to have been in Egypt?
 
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sooda

Veteran Member
And how long do your chosen scholars, from whose erroneous work you are continually copying and pasting, believe that the Israelites are said to have been in Egypt?

If the Jews had been living in Egypt for centuries as slaves,
surely they would have noticed the pyramids and the Sphinx?
Strangely, neither of these great architectural wonders of the world
are mentioned even once in the Old Testament.

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