A New Dark Age For Europe

Looncall · Mar 30, 2019

I have recently encountered several interviews with Muslims in Europe.

A common thread in the interviews was a desire to outbreed native Europeans and impose Muslim religion and culture.

We have seen what muslim-majority countries look like.

Should the rest of the civilized world prepare for a flood of refugees from Europe as their countries descend into barbarity?

Debater Slayer · Mar 30, 2019

This thread is so dramatic it could outperform Titanic in theaters.

Spirit of Light · Mar 30, 2019

Looncall said:
I have recently encountered several interviews with Muslims in Europe.

A common thread in the interviews was a desire to outbreed native Europeans and impose Muslim religion and culture.

We have seen what muslim-majority countries look like.

Should the rest of the civilized world prepare for a flood of refugees from Europe as their countries descend into barbarity?

A new Post that will push Muslims down?
Not all muslims want to push their belief on others, Personally i have not yet met any muslims in Norway that have wanted me dead, or wanted to converted me by force, nor do they hate me as person. I have had many good long discussions with muslims both from Sunni and shia. They may ask why i do not want to convert, and when i tell them why they accept this with no problems.

Those "muslims" we see that are doing evil deeds by bombs or other means, are not true muslims, they have no knowledge about islam and they do not understand the true meaning behind the teachings.

And no i have no need for moving even there is muslims in the country i live in.

Daemon Sophic · Mar 30, 2019

Looncall said:
I have recently encountered several interviews with Muslims in Europe.

A common thread in the interviews was a desire to outbreed native Europeans and impose Muslim religion and culture.

We have seen what muslim-majority countries look like.

Should the rest of the civilized world prepare for a flood of refugees from Europe as their countries descend into barbarity?

Sources please.

“...a desire to outbreed native Europeans....” sounds like typical bigoted tripe.

Father Heathen · Mar 30, 2019

It makes no sense to me that they would desire to create the very conditions they fled from. It also makes no sense to me that those who loathe western culture would flock to western nations.

InChrist · Mar 30, 2019

In some areas people may feel they are experiencing a worse situation than other locations...

European girls in Vienna are wearing headscarves to avoid assaults by male muslim migrants - Voice of Europe

Flemish politician: We are being replaced, but we will resist against the hostile takeover of Islam

PureX · Mar 30, 2019

Looncall said:
I have recently encountered several interviews with Muslims in Europe.

A common thread in the interviews was a desire to outbreed native Europeans and impose Muslim religion and culture.

We have seen what muslim-majority countries look like.

Should the rest of the civilized world prepare for a flood of refugees from Europe as their countries descend into barbarity?

This is a commonly proposed tactic of a minority living in antipathy with the majority within a society. I wouldn't give it a lot of credence, as it pretty much never happens. What happens, instead, is the minority becomes more and more acculturated into the majority's cultural meme, and the desire to 'overwhelm the enemy' through biological proliferation evaporates.

sooda · Mar 30, 2019

Looncall said:
I have recently encountered several interviews with Muslims in Europe.

A common thread in the interviews was a desire to outbreed native Europeans and impose Muslim religion and culture.

We have seen what muslim-majority countries look like.

Should the rest of the civilized world prepare for a flood of refugees from Europe as their countries descend into barbarity?

How many Muslims have you interviewed?

You might also look at the data.. Muslim families have been getting smaller for 25 years.

Barbarity? Well that's a dead give-away. Have you traveled or visited any Muslim countries?

Jumi · Mar 30, 2019

I live in a relatively Muslim heavy area. All it basically amounts to is seeing women wear the clothing of their cultures and often religious headgear. The guys typically try to wear more fashionable western clothes than locals. That's about it. The normal, peaceful Muslims aren't much different from us.

Valjean · Mar 30, 2019

I anticipate massive migrations, but not for religious reasons. As climate change reduces the carrying capacity of large areas of the planet, people are going to migrate.

Keep in mind, the current middle eastern migration into western Europe, which is causing so much contention, can be traced back to the drought that sent bankrupt farmers into cities without the resources and infrastructure to support them. This erupted into the Arab Spring, and waves of refugees migrating into Europe and Turkey.

Climate change is accelerating, and isn't likely to slow down anytime soon. If you think a few million refugees is problematic, imagine a few billion.

Shadow Wolf · Mar 30, 2019

Amanaki said:
Those "muslims" we see that are doing evil deeds by bombs or other means, are not true muslims, they have no knowledge about islam and they do not understand the true meaning behind the teachings.

You don't get to decide who is and who isn't based on your personal preference in interpretation.

Jumi said:
I live in a relatively Muslim heavy area. All it basically amounts to is seeing women wear the clothing of their cultures and often religious headgear. The guys typically try to wear more fashionable western clothes than locals. That's about it. The normal, peaceful Muslims aren't much different from us.

We also allow them the freedom to leave old ways behind, and provide sanctuary to those speaking against the heavy repression faced where they came from. It was probably as well the life of a rather unsettling number that was preserved by them coming here.

Looncall said:
New I have recently encountered several interviews with Muslims in Europe.

Send them here. They'll have an easier time halting the flow of the Mississippi than they will preventing their kids from becoming Americanized.

Spirit of Light · Mar 30, 2019

Shadow Wolf said:
You don't get to decide who is and who isn't based on your personal preference in interpretation.

I do not decide, but from what the terrorists saying you can very easy understad that their knowledge of islam an the quran is limited, so from what the quran say they can not be seen as muslims. the fight they think they do in name of god should not be fought toward others but from within them self.
If you disagree that is totally ok too

Shadow Wolf · Mar 30, 2019

Amanaki said:
I do not decide, but from what the terrorists saying you can very easy understad that their knowledge of islam an the quran is limited, so from what the quran say they can not be seen as muslims.

I'm willing to bet most Muslims know the Quran just as well as most Christians know the Bible, which isn't that well at all. We have no problem saying "Christians want the 10 Commandments on display," despite the fact what they call the 10 Commandments is not what the Bible calls the 10 Comamndments.

Spirit of Light · Mar 30, 2019

Shadow Wolf said:
I'm willing to bet most Muslims know the Quran just as well as most Christians know the Bible, which isn't that well at all.

That depend on how many hours a day they study the texts

and how deep their knowledge of teaching goes.

Shadow Wolf · Mar 30, 2019

Amanaki said:
That depend on how many hours a day they study the texts and how deep their knowledge of teaching goes.

But it's clearly not a marker for "who is and who isn't," and indeed plenty of highly devoted Muslims and Christians will tell you that such word-for-word knowledge misses the forest for the trees.

sun rise · Mar 30, 2019

InChrist said:
In some areas people may feel they are experiencing a worse situation than other locations...

European girls in Vienna are wearing headscarves to avoid assaults by male muslim migrants - Voice of Europe

Flemish politician: We are being replaced, but we will resist against the hostile takeover of Islam

You cite a bad source

shmogie · Mar 30, 2019

Amanaki said:
A new Post that will push Muslims down?
Not all muslims want to push their belief on others, Personally i have not yet met any muslims in Norway that have wanted me dead, or wanted to converted me by force, nor do they hate me as person. I have had many good long discussions with muslims both from Sunni and shia. They may ask why i do not want to convert, and when i tell them why they accept this with no problems.

Those "muslims" we see that are doing evil deeds by bombs or other means, are not true muslims, they have no knowledge about islam and they do not understand the true meaning behind the teachings.

And no i have no need for moving even there is muslims in the country i live in.

Have you read the koran and hadith ? These are what true muslims believe. Read them, you will find them enlightening. After you have read them, consider muslims as a majority where you live.

shmogie · Mar 30, 2019

Father Heathen said:
It makes no sense to me that they would desire to create the very conditions they fled from. It also makes no sense to me that those who loathe western culture would flock to western nations.

France has a large population of Muslims. Most have not assimilated, and sharia law is prevalent in their neighborhoods.

Further, a high percentage of them draw benefits from the French welfare system.

Both of your questions answered for France.

I suspect the pattern is consistent for most of Europe.

In the US, the city of Dearborn, Michigan, which some refer to as Dearbornistan because of the overwhelming majority of Muslims, welfare is received at an extremely high rate.

An unverified by me article today says that this town has adopted sharia law, illegal in the US

The_Fisher_King · Mar 30, 2019

Amanaki said:
I do not decide, but from what the terrorists saying you can very easy understad that their knowledge of islam an the quran is limited, so from what the quran say they can not be seen as muslims. the fight they think they do in name of god should not be fought toward others but from within them self.
If you disagree that is totally ok too

In Islam, there is an external as well as an internal Jihad/struggle. Whom that external Jihad can be waged against, when, and how depends on one's interpretation of not only the Qur'an, but also the Hadith and the words of Muslim scholars.

And Islam is not just to be found in the books and the words of the scholars, most importantly it is in the huge diversity of individual understandings and lived experiences of Muslims around the world. That includes those who have a more militant interpretation of their religion.

The_Fisher_King · Mar 30, 2019

shmogie said:
Have you read the koran and hadith ? These are what true muslims believe. Read them, you will find them enlightening. After you have read them, consider muslims as a majority where you live.

The Qur'an and Hadith are open to interpretation. Different Muslims will take different things from these texts and apply them differently in their lives.

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