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Throughout history there are many books, stories, statue's, etc about Zeus. Is that enough evidence for you to also believe in Zeus?
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Throughout history there are many books, stories, statue's, etc about Zeus. Is that enough evidence for you to also believe in Zeus?
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So the stories like the devil offering someone goodies to test their faith is false? I thought so too.
If someone asks you to sin(wild women and drinking) and you turn them down because of your faith, could that not be them testing your faith?
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Dreams don't have living standards. God does and your faith in God has you follow those standards which can be seen and tested.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
To see different religious people try to defend their rightfull way of beliving in a God and to see Atheists trying their best to find faults or error within a religion is a strange feeling.
For a person who found a religious path and a religious teaching they deeply belive in there is no need for physical evidene for the God or Buddha to be here right now. To have faith or no doubt about the teaching, the practice of understand the teaching and thereby gaining wisdom of the spiritual has become natural.
To me it seem like Atheists/non belivers does not want religions to be true, or that the guidelines/rules within a religion is seen as wrong. or that God must be evil because we as humans suffer, this things is difficult for religious people to understand.
So here we stand on each side of a line, trying to convince that others are wrong? Is is not best to look within our self and see, What do I need to change within me to become the way i want? for a religious person the way most people want to be is like the teacher/God/ prophet has given teachings about, Morally good and good people.
All we want is to become better then we are right now
Think of we could talk with anyone without look after errors in other peoples life, because we knew that we are not perfect ourself too. As a Buddhist i am far from perfect, i have many things i am not happy with. So before i can make critique of others belief, i should better my sef first, And i know how it feels to give critique(it hurts to see when i hurt others) and receive it.
For a person who found a religious path and a religious teaching they deeply belive in there is no need for physical evidene for the God or Buddha to be here right now. To have faith or no doubt about the teaching, the practice of understand the teaching and thereby gaining wisdom of the spiritual has become natural.
To me it seem like Atheists/non belivers does not want religions to be true, or that the guidelines/rules within a religion is seen as wrong. or that God must be evil because we as humans suffer, this things is difficult for religious people to understand.
So here we stand on each side of a line, trying to convince that others are wrong? Is is not best to look within our self and see, What do I need to change within me to become the way i want? for a religious person the way most people want to be is like the teacher/God/ prophet has given teachings about, Morally good and good people.
All we want is to become better then we are right now
Think of we could talk with anyone without look after errors in other peoples life, because we knew that we are not perfect ourself too. As a Buddhist i am far from perfect, i have many things i am not happy with. So before i can make critique of others belief, i should better my sef first, And i know how it feels to give critique(it hurts to see when i hurt others) and receive it.
When someone says implicitly or explicitly that their faith is the only true faith I have to wonder whom they are trying to convince. I'm perfectly comfortable with saying Christianity is true for a Christian; Islam for a Muslim; Buddhism for a Buddhist. But why Christians need to prove to everyone their faith is the one true faith is beyond me.
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Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed." John 20:29
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
I agree with you
But i think it is not only some Christians who wish to make everyone like them, it happens in many religions. And as a Buddhist i respect also those who wish to Convert me back to Christianity, or those Muslims who wish to convert me to them. But then i try to be respectful and say i already found the teaching that fulfilled me 
Except that I’m not an unbeliever.
I fully admit that is a possibility.
There is no evidence for either flood in the time frame nor description in the Bible.
My humble understanding is that what will really deeply unite all humanity and all religions I believe, is when they discover that their Promised One has come and find it is all the same Person. Baha’is believe that Promised One is Baha’u’llah.
Baha’u’llah confirms all religions gone before as one eternal evolving religion. That they divided is due to the religious leaders of each faith refusing to accept the new Teacher. Otherwise all would have moved together as one Faith and there would never have been the disunity and segmentation we see today.
‘This is the eternal Faith of God, eternal in the past, eternal in the future’.
Faithofchristian
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There's nothing wrong with drinking, whatever gave you that idea.
It's not a sin to know wild women, as you call them.
As I haved met a lot of women in my life.
But I wouldn't consider them as being wild women as you do
But each to their own
Faithofchristian
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Well that shows how little you know about what bible will say and Confirm's
InChrist
Free4ever
Probably, but I don't know you, your life, your motives, your experiences, your hardships, your sincerity, your understanding, or how you actually are living your life or how the Tibetan is either. I believe God does, though, and He will judge perfectly, justly, and without partiality.
I have been a practicing geologist and been around the world for over 50 years. There is absolutely no evidence for your claim.
Faithofchristian
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Alot of people are taught about the flood of Noah's, that was to supposedly to covered the whole earth.
But that is not true, nor does the bible support the flood of Noah's as covering the whole earth.
If the flood of Noah's did cover the whole earth, Then the question is, Where did the Gentiles come from.
Seeing how after the flood of Noah's, His sons and their sons and wives into the land of the Gentiles.
So where did the Gentthe come from
As I have ask many Christians this question, and they just look with a blank look on their face.
InChrist
Free4ever
I don't think the Maya who sacrificed babies were worshipping the true God who created heaven and earth, more likely satan or a demon god. I believe the real Creator God has written His laws on the conscience of each person and so for them to kill babies is a violation.
Segev Moran
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I think that anyone who asks people to worship him/her should not be allowed to talk with anyone.
The Jewish religion BTW, sees claims like that (and it is also written in the bible) to be the greatest sin possible.
The greatest human based on the Jewish religion was Moses and he was a prophet. It is said clearly that God will never be revealed to us rather will only be known through prophets.
This is part of the reason it is hard for Jewish people to understand the idea of Jesus, as it is against one of the core concepts of the Jewish religion (this is also why it is weird as it actually contradicts Jesus words himself)
See, that’s one of the points we’ll never agree on... you worship a God that is a judge and who is feared by his worshipers. You can’t really know that you’ve lived up to his standards and actually kept his commandments.
I don’t worry about commandments or offending God, because he can’t be offended. You can curse him, be jealous of him, repeatedly try to kill your child, and he won’t reject you. He’ll welcome you. This is a real story in our scriptures. And this is because he only asks that we remember him. Nothing more than that. Our actions determine our fate, through karma not being judged by God. He has more important things to do, like guiding, protecting and loving us, than set laws to judge us by.
Still remains the problem of the Biblical description and timing, and the objective geologic evidence and timing of known floods. The only possible evidence for a catastrophic flood event is the Sumerian records and description describes a catastrophic flood on the Tigris Ephraties River. Noothing here about an Arc, Noah or the Biblical account. You describe two floods, which is equally problematic as far as the actual evidence for flood events.
InChrist
Free4ever
That's too bad. I think the God you describe sounds awful, unjust, and definitely not loving...to let evil go on and not care, never deal with it or bring justice. That is not protecting or love from my perspective.
I do know that I can't live up to the perfect standards of God, but I have a Savior who did and loving forgives, washes away my sins and is changing me into His image to be transformed and set for eternity.