sooda
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What does that mean exactly?
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Chew On This, Creationists
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What does that mean exactly?
Faithofchristian
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In the old testament in the book of
Genesis 3:15--"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel"
When Christ Jesus was nailed to the cross, this is when the serpent ( Satan) bruised the heel of Christ Jesus.
Then in the book of Revelation 20:7-11
In these Verse is when Christ Jesus will bruise the head of the Serpent, spoken about back in Genesis 3:15.
7--"And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Faithofchristian
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As Christ Jesus said in the book of
Matthew 18:20---"For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them"
So what you have is number
1-- me
2-- The Holy Spirit
3-- Christ Jesus in the middle over looking all things.
Now no where did Christ Jesus say anything about where a church is gathered.
Christ Jesus plainly said, Where Two or Three are gathered together.
Not one mention of JC in the OT then. Not one. But a little time machine travel and interpretation.
How do you discern The Truth, if you only read the Bible, & don't study it with other Christians?
Can you be so sure that you correctly read every word without knowing how others read the same?
FYI : The word “church” is a translation of the Greek word ekklesia, which is defined as “an assembly” or “called-out ones.” The root meaning of church is not that of a building, but of people.
Faithofchristian
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That means, if the Spirit of truth which Christ Jesus shall send in his name is not in the leading.
No matter how much a person reads, They will not come to the knowledge or understanding of the truth in the bible.
For Christ Jesus did say in the book
John 16:13--"13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come"
Therefore it is by the Spirit of truth that guide unto all truth in the bible.
Buy as it is, people thinks it by man's teachings that will guide unto all truth.
Faithofchristian
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By letting the Spirit of God lead you into all truth.
As Christ Jesus foretold in the book of
John 16:13--"13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come"
Therefore it's not by any church or by man's teachings.
But by the Spirit of God that shall lead unto all truth.
sooda
Veteran Member
So what is the special understanding of this:
Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.
Jonah 1:17
Faithofchristian
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That's right, But now the question is.
Who are the "Called out Ones"
And when were they called out.
It wasn't during our dispensation of time.
But back when Lucifer alas Satan started his rebellion against God, back during the first earth age.
Faithofchristian
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You do know that great fish, was only for a one time event. Used for one purpose only
Then after that, that great fish no longer exists
So all by yourself, you with your Bible, can discern The Truth
with no contact with other believers. No mistakes are possible?
I wonder because humans are so fallible in learning language,
knowledge of history, reading comprehension, tendency to
become over-confident in their own abilities, & quickness in
dismissing others as wrong.
I'd say that it's safer to meet with others, I discuss things.
Faithofchristian
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That's right.and that's the only way to show your approved unto God myself and the bible
2 Timothy 2:15--"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth"
Therefore myself and studying the Bible shows myself approved unto God.
So you I'd say that it's safer to meet with others, I discuss things.
Why can't you trust God, without anyone else,
You see my trust is in God and not with other people.
So when your with other people, for say in church tomorrow, Ask them in the book
Of Mark 13 How Christ Jesus foretold what the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is
And when it will happen
And who can commit it.
See what they will tell you.
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I believe that I fully understand your position now.
Faithofchristian
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What do you mean, by what age?
The first earth age is spoken about throughout the bible/ scriptures.
And you ask what age.
The world that then was first earth age of the dinosaurs, that's the age.
I asked for evidence, not opinion based on a bronze age book of mythology
Skwim
Veteran Member
I've never heard of it. Got a couple of chapters and verses that mention it?
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Faithofchristian
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If you can't handle my source of evidence the bible, that's your problem and not mine.
As to where do you think a Christian is going to go. Other than their bible for their evidence.
And if you can't handle it, that's your problem and not mine.
Faithofchristian
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Sure Genesis 1:1, In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
So when was the beginning ?
As there's nothing in the book of Genesis that tells when the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth.
If you read Genesis 1:3-14, there is no where made mentioning of God creating the water or the Atmosphere ( air)
So it's quite obvious that the water and Atmosphere (air) was already here on the earth in Genesis 1:2.
Before God created anything on the earth.
In Genesis 1:3-14.
What do you suppose that disciple Peter was taking about in 2 Peter chapter 3.
"The world that then was being overflowed with water Perished" 2 Peter 3:6.
This wasn't the flood of Noah's, Seeing how everything Perished.
Where as with the flood of Noah's, There were 8 people and animals saved alive.
But here in 2 Peter 3:6 everything Perished.
Noting survived.