Yep....as I've mentioned -- and posted at length -- before, 1914 was a turning point!
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World’s Top Religious Leaders Issue Rare Joint Appeal
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ManSinha
Well-Known Member
That does not work against those bent on doing one physical harm - no amount of "loving explanations" will do that - but we can agree to disagree
dfnj
Well-Known Member
It turns out every major religion has some form of the golden rule:
Buddhism
Treat not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.
The Buddha, Udana-Varga 5.18
Christianity
In everything, do to others as you would have them do to you; for this is the law and the prophets.
Jesus, Matthew 7:12
Confucianism
One word which sums up the basis of all good conduct … loving-kindness.
Do not do to others what you do not want done to yourself.
Confucius Analects 15.23
Hinduism
This is the sum of duty: do not do to others what would cause pain if done to you.
Mahabharata 5:1517
Islam
Not one of you truly believes until you wish for others what you wish for yourself.
Book 001, Number 0072:
It is arrested on the authority of Anas b. Malik that the Prophet (may peace and blessings be upon him) observed: one amongst you believes (truly) till one likes for his brother or for his neighbour that which he loves for himself.
Jainism
One should treat all creatures in the world as one would like to be treated.
Mahavira, Sutrakritanga
Judaism
What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour. This is the whole
Torah; all the rest is commentary. Go and learn it.
Hillel, Talmud, Shabbath 31a
Native Spirituality
We are as much alive as we keep the earth alive.
Chief Dan George
Sikhism
I am a stranger to no one; and no one is a stranger to me. Indeed, I am a friend to all.
Guru Granth Sahib, p. 1299
Taoism
Regard your neighbour’s gain as your own gain and your neighbour’s loss as your own loss.
Lao Tzu, T’ai Shang Kan Ying P’ien, 213-218
Unitarianism
We affirm and promote respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.
Unitarian principle
Zoroastrianism
Do not do unto others whatever is injurious to yourself.
Shayast-na-Shayast 13.29
Baha’i Faith
Lay not on any soul a load that you would not wish to be laid upon you,
and desire not for anyone the things you would not desire for yourself.
Baha’u’llah, Gleanings
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
I am not failing to see that. However, I do see the potential for humans to not need superstitions and fairy tales in order to do good things, be good people, and behave in pro-social ways. I was also specifically addressing a post implying "true" Christians cannot be murderers. If you want to accuse anyone of wearing blinders, that would be a better place to start.
You think so? Then how does a Christian group apply 1 Corinthians 5? Some 'decide' / 'judge' themselves.
If someone kills, I judge they do not love...at least not their victim. So much for Matthew 5:44, huh?
Nice! Thanks for posting this list! I'm putting it in my "notes".
dfnj
Well-Known Member
I would love to see superstitions and fairy tales go away. It's just that we do not live in a clockwork Universe. Unless you solve the problem of how all the energy in the Universe was created in the first place, which is a violation of the law of conservation of energy, then I will stick with superstition. I am eagerly awaiting your solution.
dfnj
Well-Known Member
Sometimes with all the hate being thrown around we lose site of what we have in common.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Why would a Christian group put the words of Paul above the words of Jesus, who said things such as "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and "judge not lest ye be judged yourself." For the standards you measure one's "Christianness" by shall be measured to you. You will be judged by the judgements you pronounce. And even James asks who are you to judge your neighbor?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
I don't have one. However, I am just fine in accepting my ignorance instead of making things up and believing things that have no evidence or support.
Matthew 23... sorry, but Jesus judged.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
And as the story goes Jesus wasn't quite the average ordinary homo sapiens. Being god's son and all, or god himself depending on your interpretation, he had some ground of authority to speak on, and it's not like god himself ever followed "thou shalt not kill" anyways.
My opinion.
The samsara, both the waking and dream worlds, are by nature divisive and full of strife, pain, and fear. It is natural that waves in ocean clash and destroy each other. But that does not destroy the water. We may be able to see an ocean with its waves as a play of the water. Similarly, in the multiform world, the clashes are inevitable. But it is really a play of one without a second reality.
The strife and pain will always be there at ego level, till realisation that an 'ego-mind-body' has no reality of its own.
The point is: In my opinion, such coming together of religious leaders may act as palliative. Yet this itself is part of the naturally divisive mythic world and thus cannot yield any lasting peace. Only the realisation of the non dual reality that runs through all phenomena can give peace to one.
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Their fundamental human rights do come first and there will never be outer peace until the fundamental rights of all human beings are respected
My opinion is that inner peace can be achieved by striving to actualise human virtues without any such “realisation”
Notanumber
A Free Man
It is difficult to be friends with those that you know have been taught to despise you from an early age.
Sure. You can strive ..
Shantanu
Well-Known Member
One still needs to live in this world and deal with ones problems so that one has a peaceful life with an adquate source of income and freedom from persecution.
Shantanu
Well-Known Member
The religions are all one one side and the real fight is against States organised criminalty in terms of persecution of believers.
Nope, they'll all go back to hating each others guts as soon as they manage to get the blood off the floor of the mosque. The hypocrisy, of course, regarding the whole situation, is that we must suddenly worry about this and modify our behavior when it happens to a venue of Islam. This is no outrage at all when the Muslims or the Jews are doing far worse every day -- no one even cares. The irony isn't lost on me at all.
These calls of peace are nothing really other than an attempt to placate the masses and make it seem like these leaders have any influence at all with their base. They really do not, because their holy books say, "kill them all." Ultimately, if people have to pick between what the Imam, Rabbi, and Priest says and God they're going with the latter. Fundamentally, none of these religions are peaceful or capable of such peace as the underpinning base of the religion comes from a violent place. "Command and conquer everyone else" is a valid interpretation of all of them.