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Do you see other human beings as enemy?

Timothy Spurlin

Active Member
I disagree. You can cherry pick how you seek the World based on your own prejudice. You can choose to hate how people think. I will choose a more positive view of humanity.

It turns out every major religion has some form of the golden rule:

Buddhism
Treat not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.
The Buddha, Udana-Varga 5.18

Christianity
In everything, do to others as you would have them do to you; for this is the law and the prophets.
Jesus, Matthew 7:12

Confucianism
One word which sums up the basis of all good conduct … loving-kindness.
Do not do to others what you do not want done to yourself.
Confucius Analects 15.23

Hinduism
This is the sum of duty: do not do to others what would cause pain if done to you.
Mahabharata 5:1517

Islam
Not one of you truly believes until you wish for others what you wish for yourself.
Book 001, Number 0072:
It is arrested on the authority of Anas b. Malik that the Prophet (may peace and blessings be upon him) observed: one amongst you believes (truly) till one likes for his brother or for his neighbour that which he loves for himself.

Jainism
One should treat all creatures in the world as one would like to be treated.
Mahavira, Sutrakritanga

Judaism
What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour. This is the whole

Torah; all the rest is commentary. Go and learn it.
Hillel, Talmud, Shabbath 31a

Native Spirituality
We are as much alive as we keep the earth alive.
Chief Dan George

Sikhism
I am a stranger to no one; and no one is a stranger to me. Indeed, I am a friend to all.
Guru Granth Sahib, p. 1299

Taoism
Regard your neighbour’s gain as your own gain and your neighbour’s loss as your own loss.
Lao Tzu, T’ai Shang Kan Ying P’ien, 213-218

Unitarianism
We affirm and promote respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.
Unitarian principle

Zoroastrianism
Do not do unto others whatever is injurious to yourself.
Shayast-na-Shayast 13.29

Baha’i Faith
Lay not on any soul a load that you would not wish to be laid upon you,
and desire not for anyone the things you would not desire for yourself.
Baha’u’llah, Gleanings

You have failed to prove religion doesn't cause violence.
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
You have failed to prove religion doesn't cause violence.

Human beings cause violence. Religions is something you read or think about. What you are saying is like saying studying math causes violence.

I think poverty and imperfections in people's characters are probably the main causes of violence. Again, if religion did not exist at all, people with character flaws would still exist. If religion did not exist at all, the stresses of living in poverty would still drive people to act out insane behaviors against each other.

You seem hell bent on blaming religion for bad things happening in the World. But I just don't see your way. Your argument to me is like saying science is responsible for all that is bad in the World because without science modern weapons would not exist. If science gets a pass on people's behaviors then so does religion.
 

Timothy Spurlin

Active Member
Human beings cause violence. Religions is something you read or think about. What you are saying is like saying studying math causes violence.

I think poverty and imperfections in people's characters are probably the main causes of violence. Again, if religion did not exist at all, people with character flaws would still exist. If religion did not exist at all, the stresses of living in poverty would still drive people to act out insane behaviors against each other.

You seem hell bent on blaming religion for bad things happening in the World. But I just don't see your way. Your argument to me is like saying science is responsible for all that is bad in the World because without science modern weapons would not exist. If science gets a pass on people's behaviors then so does religion.

Religious people commit violence against other religions.
They commit the violence in the name of their gods.
Sure science created weapons.
Religion doesn't get a pass just because science created weapons.
 
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