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Interesting correlation between God and light in major world religions...

ajay0

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I have come across some observations which depict an interesting correlation between God and light in the major world religions....


In Hinduism, the Vedas and Hindu scriptures considers the Shivalinga as representing a cosmic pillar of light. The Dharmic monotheistic sect the Prajapita Brahmakumaris consider God to be a point of light. The Upanishads and enlightened masters have also described Brahman to be self-luminous.

In Islam, Allah has 100 name's, and one of them is Alnoor ( the Light).

“God is light,” says 1 John 1:5, in the Bible in Christianity.

In Judaism, Psalm 76:4 says of God, “You are radiant with light.”

So this correlation between God and light, is a common denominator in these four major world religions.

Imo, the fire worship in Zoroastrianism may be illustrating this correlation between God (Ahura Mazda ) and light as well,light being emitted by the fire.

I would say this may provide more proof that the major world religions are identical in their core, with only superficial differences on the outside creating cause for extremism and conflict. If you find any further proofs or evidences in this regard, please do share it here.

Thanking in advance.
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Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I have come across some observations which depict an interesting correlation between God and light in the major world religions....


In Hinduism, the Vedas and Hindu scriptures considers the Shivalinga as representing a cosmic pillar of light. The Dharmic monotheistic sect the Prajapita Brahmakumaris consider God to be a point of light.


In Islam, Allah has 100 name's, and one of them is Alnoor ( the Light).

“God is light,” says 1 John 1:5, in the Bible in Christianity.

In Judaism, Psalm 76:4 says of God, “You are radiant with light.”

So this correlation between God and light, is a common denominator in these four major world religions.

Imo, the fire worship in Zoroastrianism may be illustrating this correlation between God (Ahura Mazda ) and light as well,light being emitted by the fire.

I would say this may provide more proof that the major world religions are identical in their core, with only superficial differences on the outside creating cause for extremism and conflict. If you find any further proofs or evidences in this regard, please do share it here.

Thanking in advance.
MsBAFRyEfODmoqBQKBzI.gif
compassion seems to come from many seemingly different things but it still has only one result. it lifts the suffering up, like nehushtan in the desert. it lifts the human spirit.

Proverbs 20:27
The human spirit is the lamp of the Lord that sheds light on one’s inmost being.

in revelation it speaks of pillars in the temple. these pillars could be seen as pillars of fire.


Rev 10:1 NIV Then I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven. He was robed in a cloud, with a rainbow above his head; his face was like the sun, and his legs were like fiery pillars.


in the afore mentioned case it implies that which is upright, or righteous. tzaddick


jesus also infers that people are like candles, or pillars of light.


Matthew 5:15 [Full Chapter]
Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house.
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
I have come across some observations which depict an interesting correlation between God and light in the major world religions....


In Hinduism, the Vedas and Hindu scriptures considers the Shivalinga as representing a cosmic pillar of light. The Dharmic monotheistic sect the Prajapita Brahmakumaris consider God to be a point of light. The Upanishads and enlightened masters have also described Brahman to be self-luminous.

In Islam, Allah has 100 name's, and one of them is Alnoor ( the Light).

“God is light,” says 1 John 1:5, in the Bible in Christianity.

In Judaism, Psalm 76:4 says of God, “You are radiant with light.”

So this correlation between God and light, is a common denominator in these four major world religions.

Imo, the fire worship in Zoroastrianism may be illustrating this correlation between God (Ahura Mazda ) and light as well,light being emitted by the fire.

I would say this may provide more proof that the major world religions are identical in their core, with only superficial differences on the outside creating cause for extremism and conflict. If you find any further proofs or evidences in this regard, please do share it here.

Thanking in advance.
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God is certainly light for I go and see Him daily with questions and seeking messages on what I should be doing in order to withstand State- persecution in the United Kingdom as you are well aware. Do you have any thoughts on that?
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Light means different things to different people. So unless folks can agree to it being the same thing they are talking about, it's much like talking about 'God'. Same problem.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I have come across some observations which depict an interesting correlation between God and light in the major world religions....


In Hinduism, the Vedas and Hindu scriptures considers the Shivalinga as representing a cosmic pillar of light. The Dharmic monotheistic sect the Prajapita Brahmakumaris consider God to be a point of light. The Upanishads and enlightened masters have also described Brahman to be self-luminous.

In Islam, Allah has 100 name's, and one of them is Alnoor ( the Light).

“God is light,” says 1 John 1:5, in the Bible in Christianity.

In Judaism, Psalm 76:4 says of God, “You are radiant with light.”

So this correlation between God and light, is a common denominator in these four major world religions.

Imo, the fire worship in Zoroastrianism may be illustrating this correlation between God (Ahura Mazda ) and light as well,light being emitted by the fire.

I would say this may provide more proof that the major world religions are identical in their core, with only superficial differences on the outside creating cause for extremism and conflict. If you find any further proofs or evidences in this regard, please do share it here.

Thanking in advance.
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Having following a Hindu Guru for a while their belief/teaching of a meditation technique to see this light. There is a light you can "perceive". It's like seeing, but your eyes are closed. One can perceive this light even in a completely dark room. It's very peaceful comforting to experience this light.

It's not a metaphorical description, it's just a "perfect" white light that you experience "seeing" as you would experience seeing anything. Kind of like if you are seeing it, there is no doubt that you're seeing it.

It's a light that seems to exists everywhere. It's a matter of being made aware of it.

For a long time I thought this was God. The truth of that, ok, debatable, but I can see how this experience of light through a type of meditation can be seen as an experience of God.

I suspect there were many people, at least a few Hindu Gurus, who experienced this light and accepted it as God. Why wouldn't they? Accept the reality of what they've seen for themselves.

It was claimed that when Jesus was restoring sight to the blind, he was actually teaching them to see this light. The light is the truth, everything else is illusion. That's what we were told.
 

Firemorphic

Activist Membrane
I have come across some observations which depict an interesting correlation between God and light in the major world religions....


In Hinduism, the Vedas and Hindu scriptures considers the Shivalinga as representing a cosmic pillar of light. The Dharmic monotheistic sect the Prajapita Brahmakumaris consider God to be a point of light. The Upanishads and enlightened masters have also described Brahman to be self-luminous.

In Islam, Allah has 100 name's, and one of them is Alnoor ( the Light).

“God is light,” says 1 John 1:5, in the Bible in Christianity.

In Judaism, Psalm 76:4 says of God, “You are radiant with light.”

So this correlation between God and light, is a common denominator in these four major world religions.

Imo, the fire worship in Zoroastrianism may be illustrating this correlation between God (Ahura Mazda ) and light as well,light being emitted by the fire.

I would say this may provide more proof that the major world religions are identical in their core, with only superficial differences on the outside creating cause for extremism and conflict. If you find any further proofs or evidences in this regard, please do share it here.

Thanking in advance.
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Yes, I believe this as well. This is also the same for Manichaenism and forms of Gnosticism (the 3rd/4th century traditions).
The fact that it's experienced (in some form) by the great mystics of all religions and it's central in revealed religions too (and I mean, practically all) shows me that there is a strong objective truth to this. The objective truth of the Ultimate Reality, however, is external to this immediate material world.
But at the same time, is an ever-present force within all things.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Light means different things to different people. So unless folks can agree to it being the same thing they are talking about, it's much like talking about 'God'. Same problem.

Excellent point.
For Christians, the Bible identifies Jesus Christ as the "Light of the world". But it also says that the devil can "transform himself into an angel of light"......so if the devil is a mimic (and a very clever one at that) how can we tell which 'light' is attracting us? Or which religion that 'follows the light' are being duped by a clever con-artist?

If all the world's religions are centered on a "light"....what if the majority are following the wrong one? How can we tell?
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
If all the world's religions are centered on a "light"....what if the majority are following the wrong one? How can we tell?

What does that light compel you to do? Doesn't your God say "You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles"? If one dedicates their lives, activities, and such to what we consider "noble", "dharmic", "compassionate" endeavors, why would that be coming from an evil source? I've heard all too often that I'm being led astray in my beliefs and methods of worship. But why would that deceiver (which I don't believe in anyway, this is just for discussion's sake) prompt me to do the very things the "real light" asks us to do? This, in my opinion, is where the belief n this good/evil dichotomy breaks down.
 

ajay0

Well-Known Member
Not all Hindus understand it in this way. A more common understanding is 'mark' or 'sign'.

Lingam - Wikipedia

The Vedic interpretation (in the Atharva Veda Samhita) and the Shiva Puranas depict the Shivalinga as a cosmic pillar of light.

It is true that Linga means 'mark' or 'sign'. Jyotirlinga is also an another name for the Shivalinga. Jyoti means light and 'Jyotirlinga' meaning to be the mark of light.

The Shivalinga is also considered to be the personification of the impersonal Nirguna Brahman as Saguna Brahman with personal attributes.

As per Hinduism, Brahman is of the nature of pure consciousness.

Prajñānam brahma - Brahman is pure consciousness (Aitareya Upanishad 3.3 of the Rig Veda)



And enlightened sages like Ramakrishna and Ramana had pointed out the nature of Brahman in these sayings....

'It has been revealed to me that there exists an Ocean of Consciousness without limit. From It come all things of the relative plane, and in It they merge again. These waves arising from the Great Ocean merge again in the Great Ocean. I have clearly perceived all these things.' - Ramakrishna



“The Self (pure consciousness) is self-luminous without darkness and light, and is the reality which is self-manifest." - Ramana Maharshi


There the sun does not shine, nor the moon, nor the stars, nor does the lightning flash, what to speak of fire! Because of Thy Light all is illumined. With His shining everything shines. - Mundaka Upanishad



Brahman is the Light of lights.
He is Self-luminous.
He is Supreme Light.
He is ultimate light.
He is an embodiment of Light.
By His Light all else shines.
~ Brahmarahasya Upanishad


This would obviously indicate that the nature of Brahman, impersonal or personal, is of a self-luminous nature.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
What does that light compel you to do? Doesn't your God say "You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles"? If one dedicates their lives, activities, and such to what we consider "noble", "dharmic", "compassionate" endeavors, why would that be coming from an evil source? I've heard all too often that I'm being led astray in my beliefs and methods of worship. But why would that deceiver (which I don't believe in anyway, this is just for discussion's sake) prompt me to do the very things the "real light" asks us to do? This, in my opinion, is where the belief n this good/evil dichotomy breaks down.

From my own study of scripture over many years, I see the devil portrayed as a master deceiver. If he can present himself as "an angel of light" and sidetrack people off onto a different path by offering them a better deal, then he has them. This is what happened in Eden and humans have been falling for this trick ever since.

Just like the Pied Piper....if the devil plays a tune that appeals to something in us that makes us feel good about ourselves...or who presents an alternative way that takes away guilt or alleviates responsibility to do certain things that we don't want to do, then who are we worshipping? Ourselves under the guise of a god, created by the devil.
His greatest deception I believe, is to make people believe that he does not exist.

Jesus did say "by their fruits" we would recognize his true disciples. So what are we looking at? What are the "fruits" that a worshipper of the true God should display? How many gods are there really? How many did Jesus say there were?...and what qualities should a worshipper of the true God display? The is a list but the majority only do what is least required of them. Its human nature though, isn't it?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I have come across some observations which depict an interesting correlation between God and light in the major world religions....


In Hinduism, the Vedas and Hindu scriptures considers the Shivalinga as representing a cosmic pillar of light. The Dharmic monotheistic sect the Prajapita Brahmakumaris consider God to be a point of light. The Upanishads and enlightened masters have also described Brahman to be self-luminous.

In Islam, Allah has 100 name's, and one of them is Alnoor ( the Light).

“God is light,” says 1 John 1:5, in the Bible in Christianity.

In Judaism, Psalm 76:4 says of God, “You are radiant with light.”

So this correlation between God and light, is a common denominator in these four major world religions.

Imo, the fire worship in Zoroastrianism may be illustrating this correlation between God (Ahura Mazda ) and light as well,light being emitted by the fire.

I would say this may provide more proof that the major world religions are identical in their core, with only superficial differences on the outside creating cause for extremism and conflict. If you find any further proofs or evidences in this regard, please do share it here.

Thanking in advance.
MsBAFRyEfODmoqBQKBzI.gif


wouldn't nataraja basically be a pillar of light?
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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Premium Member
From my own study of scripture over many years, I see the devil portrayed as a master deceiver. If he can present himself as "an angel of light" and sidetrack people off onto a different path by offering them a better deal, then he has them. This is what happened in Eden and humans have been falling for this trick ever since. ...

What would be a better deal, what is he offering? What are we falling for? Assuming it's the devil, what am I falling for when I give to animal shelters and rescue organizations? Prompting someone to donate time and money to a homeless shelter or a veterans' shelter? Giving a couple of $20s to a person sleeping on a subway grate? You're still missing the point. Why would the devil entice someone to give to charities and help others? Y'know, the very things Jesus said to do. What would the devil get out of this? We have a saying "Nar seva Narayan seva", service to man is service to God. Is the devil prompting me to serve man in the name of God?
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
in Buddhism Light can be associated with understanding and darkness can be associated with ignorance. However, light is seen as a perception discernment dependent upon darkness. In order to find the light of understanding, one must first acknowledge one is in the darkness of ignorance. Knowing that you don't know is the beginning of wisdom. If you think you are already full of light and understanding, you may very well be in darkness and not know it. Light can be deceptive, but you can pretty much count on acknowledging your own darkness/ignorance as being true.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
What would be a better deal, what is he offering? What are we falling for? Assuming it's the devil, what am I falling for when I give to animal shelters and rescue organizations? Prompting someone to donate time and money to a homeless shelter or a veterans' shelter? Giving a couple of $20s to a person sleeping on a subway grate?

Not making this personal, but generally speaking, you are talking about humanitarianism. This is acts of goodwill rendered through love of neighbor...correct? One does not have to be motivated any religious belief in order to be a good humanitarian. In fact, many such people are avowed atheists.

From the Christian perspective, "love of neighbor" is a definite requirement.....BUT for us there is a more important Love that is to accompany our love of neighbor....that is to "love God with our whole heart, soul, mind and strength". So these two are inseparable.

You see, God never said he was going to save "good" people.....salvation depends on obedience to God's commands through Christ's teachings....all of them. None of the rules that our Creator gives us is too difficult.

If we go back to the beginning, we see what the devil did to get the woman to break the only law they had at that time. He appealed to selfish interests. He sidetracked her by tempting her to imagine that God was holding something back and that the humans would be better off making their own decisions about what is right or wrong.....good or evil. God never forced obedience on them, but simply told them about the consequences. We are still experiencing them. We are still deluding ourselves into believing that we are good at making our own decisions without taking God's laws into consideration first. Look at the world we have created doing just that!

You're still missing the point. Why would the devil entice someone to give to charities and help others? Y'know, the very things Jesus said to do. What would the devil get out of this? We have a saying "Nar seva Narayan seva", service to man is service to God. Is the devil prompting me to serve man in the name of God?

Service to man is not service to God if the service is not done out of obedience to his commands. Love of neighbor, if not motivated by love of God (the true God) is humanitarianism. Nothing wrong with that, but it's not all that God requires. Unless we are compliant with God's laws, out of genuine love for him, no amount of humanitarian acts will get us anywhere. It will just earn us Brownie points with other humans. :shrug:
 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
Enoch the true one year old sacrificial lamb of God, who was carried to the throne of the MOST HIGH in the creation, at the age of 365, the number of days in a calendar year, and anointed as the successor to that throne and was translated into a spiritual being carrying the Name; (The Lesser Jehovah) or the son of JHWH, who descended from his heights in time and filled the man Jesus with his spirit, has this to say in his book, 'Enoch the Prophet.'

108: 11-13; "And now I will summon the spirits of the good who belong to the generation of light, and I will transform those who were born in darkness, who, in the flesh were not recompensed with such honor as their faithfulness deserved. [12] And I shall bring forth in shining light those who have loved MY Holy name, and I will seat each one on the throne of his honor. [13] And they shall be resplendent for times without number, etc."

These are the new life forms, who evolve from mankind [The Son of Man] who are the MOST HIGH in the creation and who will dwell on earth among mankind.
 
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Thief

Rogue Theologian
I have come across some observations which depict an interesting correlation between God and light in the major world religions....


In Hinduism, the Vedas and Hindu scriptures considers the Shivalinga as representing a cosmic pillar of light. The Dharmic monotheistic sect the Prajapita Brahmakumaris consider God to be a point of light. The Upanishads and enlightened masters have also described Brahman to be self-luminous.

In Islam, Allah has 100 name's, and one of them is Alnoor ( the Light).

“God is light,” says 1 John 1:5, in the Bible in Christianity.

In Judaism, Psalm 76:4 says of God, “You are radiant with light.”

So this correlation between God and light, is a common denominator in these four major world religions.

Imo, the fire worship in Zoroastrianism may be illustrating this correlation between God (Ahura Mazda ) and light as well,light being emitted by the fire.

I would say this may provide more proof that the major world religions are identical in their core, with only superficial differences on the outside creating cause for extremism and conflict. If you find any further proofs or evidences in this regard, please do share it here.

Thanking in advance.
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can't help but notice.....

God created light
prior to that event.....He dwelt in darkness

and the Carpenter gave instruction......
Go to your closet and close the door
and the Spirit that knows you will hear your prayer
 

arthra

Baha'i
I have come across some observations which depict an interesting correlation between God and light in the major world religions....

Indeed.. I heartily agree. There are well over ten thousand references to light in the Baha'i Writings. I'll cite just a few of them here:

"This is the Day whereon naught can be seen except the splendors of the Light that shineth from the face of Thy Lord, the Gracious, the Most Bountiful."

(Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 29)

"I swear by the Sun of Truth, the light of agreement shall brighten and illumine the horizons."

(Abdu'l-Baha, A Traveller's Narrative, p. 42)

"Today the light of Truth is shining upon the world in its abundance; the breezes of the heavenly garden are blowing throughout all regions; the call of the Kingdom is heard in all lands, and the breath of the Holy Spirit is felt in all hearts that are faithful."

(Abdu'l-Baha, Abdu'l-Baha in London, p. 19)

"The Prophets of God are the Mediators of God. All the Prophets and Messengers have come from One Holy Spirit and bear the Message of God, fitted to the age in which they appear. The One Light is in them and they are One with each other."

(Abdu'l-Baha, Abdu'l-Baha in London, p. 24)
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Excellent point.
For Christians, the Bible identifies Jesus Christ as the "Light of the world". But it also says that the devil can "transform himself into an angel of light"......so if the devil is a mimic (and a very clever one at that) how can we tell which 'light' is attracting us? Or which religion that 'follows the light' are being duped by a clever con-artist?
Certainly not by using reason or beliefs about teachings. It's easy to fool the mind. So relying on "scriptures" isn't the key. Just look how many different opinions about them there are. There must be some other way, such as looking at the fruit that is borne in actions, regardless of structures of beliefs. This is what Jesus taught. "You shall know them by their fruits," not their theologies.

If all the world's religions are centered on a "light"....what if the majority are following the wrong one? How can we tell?
Certainly not by well-craftered theological arguments. If Jesus said he saw more faith in a Roman Centurion then all the religious folks of Israel, it's obviously not about what religion they follow, supposedly following the "right one". That's really the core of what Jesus teaches.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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Premium Member
Not making this personal, but generally speaking, you are talking about humanitarianism.

No, I am not. Matthew 25:40-45

From the Christian perspective, "love of neighbor" is a definite requirement.....BUT for us there is a more important Love that is to accompany our love of neighbor....that is to "love God with our whole heart, soul, mind and strength". So these two are inseparable.

Which is what prompts caring for one's neighbor. It's certainly not love for the devil that does it. Atheists and non-theists have their own motivations. I'm speaking strictly about theists.

If we go back to the beginning, we see what the devil did to get the woman to break the only law they had at that time. He appealed to selfish interests.

So we have selfish interests in giving a few bucks, or a meal from a diner to the homeless guy on the street? I certainly don't.

Service to man is not service to God if the service is not done out of obedience to his commands.

It most certainly is. We'll have to agree to disagree here because I for one do not believe that it's only obedience to God's commandments, which btw my God does not make commandments or give orders, that prompts someone to "do the right thing".

Love of neighbor, if not motivated by love of God (the true God) is humanitarianism. Nothing wrong with that, but it's not all that God requires. Unless we are compliant with God's laws, out of genuine love for him, no amount of humanitarian acts will get us anywhere. It will just earn us Brownie points with other humans. :shrug:

So what are God's laws?

Who is the "true God" and why? Maybe the devil is deluding people into believing that, yes? And if not, why not? So, God gave us free will and intelligence but yet we need commandments to "do the right thing"? o_O
 
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