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The Red Sea is parting again, but this time Moses doesn’t have a hand in it.

shunyadragon

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
sooda said:
Sure.. Zechariah is talking about the first and second Jewish wars,

Zechariah predicts that the Mt. of Olives was to be split in two. Confirmation of the fulfillment of this verse is found in the fact that the Mt. of Olives is split in two today.
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Actually no, the Mount Olives is NOT split in two today, and will not happen for millions of years. What the ancients likely saw are the cracks and movements in the earth after earthquakes. Those that saw the cracks and movement based their prophecy based on what they saw happening.

Also note; The Red Sea nor the rivers will not dry up in recent geologic history. What the ancients did observe was that the Middle East region has been drying up in recent history. The human history of the whole region is centered around the migration and changes in settlement due to the drying of the region.
 
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sooda

sooda

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shunyadragon said:
Actually no, the Mount Olives is NOT split in two today, and will not happen for millions of years. What the ancients likely saw are the cracks and movements in the earth after earthquakes. Those that saw the cracks and movement based their prophecy based on what they saw happening.
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The area seems to have it's share of shakes.
 
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The Anointed

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Subduction Zone said:
No, he didn't. You do not even understand what is being discussed.
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Subduction zone wrote...…. No, he didn't.

The Anointed...….Oh, but he did, and you can read it for yourself in Zechariah 14.

Subduction Zone wrote...…. You do not even understand what is being discussed.

The Anointed...….. But I do understand what this thread is supposed to be about, and that is, that the Red Sea is parting again, but this time Moses doesn’t have a hand in it.
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It’s just another biblical ignorant atheists attempt to discredit the Holy Scriptures.
 
sooda

sooda

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The Anointed said:
Subduction zone wrote...…. No, he didn't.

The Anointed...….Oh, but he did, and you can read it for yourself in Zechariah 14.

Subduction Zone wrote...…. You do not even understand what is being discussed.

The Anointed...….. But I do understand what this thread is supposed to be about, and that is, that the Red Sea is parting again, but this time Moses doesn’t have a hand in it.
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It’s just another biblical ignorant atheists attempt to discredit the Holy Scriptures.
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Don't be silly. It has nothing to do with religion. It's about sizmic activity on the red Sea floor. Obviously I can't spell seismic activity.
 
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shunyadragon

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
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sooda said:
I'm afraid the anointed missed the small joke in the title.
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What many Christians miss is what are called 'prophecies' in these cases is simply what the ancients observed concerning the earthquakes, and the drying of the world around them for generations.

It is not hard to prophecy concerning what you see changing in the world around you.
 
sooda

sooda

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shunyadragon said:
What many Christians miss is what are called 'prophecies' in these cases is simply what the ancients observed concerning the earthquakes, and the drying of the world around them for generations.

It is not hard to prophecy concerning what you see changing in the world around you.
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Most prophecy was written after the fact and tucked into scripture. Consider King Omri's major rewrite when he tried to reunite Israel and Judah.
 
shunyadragon

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
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sooda said:
Most prophecy was written after the fact and tucked into scripture. Consider King Omri's major rewrite when he tried to reunite Israel and Judah.
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I was referring to specifically the 'prophecies' that relate to the physical nature of the earth, river and seas. Over the generations the ancients of the Middle East could literally see these things happening in the world around them over the generations.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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The Anointed said:
Subduction zone wrote...…. No, he didn't.

The Anointed...….Oh, but he did, and you can read it for yourself in Zechariah 14.

Subduction Zone wrote...…. You do not even understand what is being discussed.

The Anointed...….. But I do understand what this thread is supposed to be about, and that is, that the Red Sea is parting again, but this time Moses doesn’t have a hand in it.
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It’s just another biblical ignorant atheists attempt to discredit the Holy Scriptures.
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The Red Sea never parted. That is mythology not theology.

And please,when you don't have a clue about your own book of myths you should not accuse others of being ignorant.
 
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The Anointed

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sooda said:
The Dead Sea is located in the Syro-African Rift, a 4000-mile fault line in the earth’s crust. The lowest point of dry land on earth is the shoreline of the Dead Sea at 1300 feet below sea level.

Zechariah 14 was fulfilled in the Maccabean Wars of the second century B.C., these prophecies may have a dual fulfillment in the Jewish War in the first century A.D.

In A.D. 66, at the start of the Jewish War, an army of angels appeared in the clouds according to two first century historians. This supernatural specter may fulfill verse 5: “Then the LORD my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.”

In Zechariah 14:2, the prophet predicts that “all the nations [will be gathered] to Jerusalem to fight against it.”
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Obviously you have never read Zechariah 14; Then the Lord will go out and fight for his people as he has fought in times past. At that time, he will stand on the Mount of Olives, to the east of Jerusalem. Then the Mount of Olives will be split in two, from east to west by a large valley. Half of the mountain (On the African plate) will move to the northwest, and half of it (On the Arabian plate) will move southwest.

Could the violent activity around the earth at this time, be the trigger that will cause the super volcano beneath Yellow stone to erupt, enveloping the planet in a cloud of debris? And that day shall be neither day nor night, but a perpetual twilight.

Zechariah 14: 13; Then the Lord will throw those nations that surround Jerusalem, into a state of total confusion, and the weapons of destruction with which they would destroy Israel, he will cause them to turn upon their own allies and they shall suffer a terrible disease, the soft tissue such as their eyes and tongues will melt in their sockets, and their radiated flesh, cooked to the bone, will slide from their bodies while still standing. Then all the surviving Nations will send their representatives each year to Jerusalem in the land of Israel, to worship and pay tribute to the Lord who will rule the whole world with justice for a thousand years, and woe betide those who refuse to do so, etc

Zechariah's prophecy has not yet been fulfilled..
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The Anointed

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sooda said:
Don't be silly. It has nothing to do with religion. It's about sizmic activity on the red Sea floor. Obviously I can't spell seismic activity.
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If it has nothing to do with religion, then why did you introduce Moses
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sooda

sooda

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The Anointed said:
Obviously you have never read Zechariah 14; Then the Lord will go out and fight for his people as he has fought in times past. At that time, he will stand on the Mount of Olives, to the east of Jerusalem. Then the Mount of Olives will be split in two, from east to west by a large valley. Half of the mountain (On the African plate) will move to the northwest, and half of it (On the Arabian plate) will move southwest.

Could the violent activity around the earth at this time, be the trigger that will cause the super volcano beneath Yellow stone to erupt, enveloping the planet in a cloud of debris? And that day shall be neither day nor night, but a perpetual twilight.

Zechariah 14: 13; Then the Lord will throw those nations that surround Jerusalem, into a state of total confusion, and the weapons of destruction with which they would destroy Israel, he will cause them to turn upon their own allies and they shall suffer a terrible disease, the soft tissue such as their eyes and tongues will melt in their sockets, and their radiated flesh, cooked to the bone, will slide from their bodies while still standing. Then all the surviving Nations will send their representatives each year to Jerusalem in the land of Israel, to worship and pay tribute to the Lord who will rule the whole world with justice for a thousand years, and woe betide those who refuse to do so, etc

Zechariah's prophecy has not yet been fulfilled..
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The Mount of Olives was split in two from east to west by a Roman road in the first century.

Apocalyptic writing are often poetic and hyperbolic, symbolic expressions.

The Christians of Jerusalem most likely passed through the Mt. of Olives on Their Way to Pella in Fulfillment of Zechariah 14:4-5.

God had used Rome as a weapon against Israel.

In A.D. 69, the war in Israel came to an abrupt halt while Rome was torn apart by civil war and countless calamities resulting in the death of four Caesar’s over the course of just one year.

That year Rome suffered what may have been its most tumultuous year in its long history. But even after all this; God was still angry. God’s next act of vengeance is described in vs. 12-15.
 
sooda

sooda

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The Anointed said:
If it has nothing to do with religion, then why did you introduce Moses
into your thread?​
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The press made a joke because the Red Sea suddenly got 25 feet wider in 2011.

There was NO Exodus and no Moses. Its a didactic tale of redemption and deliverance.. Never happened.

Look.. 2 million supposedly left Egypt with their herds and Jerusalem had a population of fewer than 2000. Think.
 
shunyadragon

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
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The Anointed said:
Obviously you have never read Zechariah 14; Then the Lord will go out and fight for his people as he has fought in times past. At that time, he will stand on the Mount of Olives, to the east of Jerusalem. Then the Mount of Olives will be split in two, from east to west by a large valley. Half of the mountain (On the African plate) will move to the northwest, and half of it (On the Arabian plate) will move southwest.

Could the violent activity around the earth at this time, be the trigger that will cause the super volcano beneath Yellow stone to erupt, enveloping the planet in a cloud of debris? And that day shall be neither day nor night, but a perpetual twilight.
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Too much hypothetical stuff that will take hundreds of thousands of years. Also the Mount of Olives is not close to a plate boundary. It is in the middle of the Sinai Plate, a small plate between the African Plate, West side is the Sinai Fault System, which follows the Red Sea axis. To the East is the Dead Sea Fault system Joins the Red Sea through Gulf of Aquba, and on the East side is the Arabian Plate.

Obviously the geology does not fit.

Zechariah 14: 13; Then the Lord will throw those nations that surround Jerusalem, into a state of total confusion, and the weapons of destruction with which they would destroy Israel, he will cause them to turn upon their own allies and they shall suffer a terrible disease, the soft tissue such as their eyes and tongues will melt in their sockets, and their radiated flesh, cooked to the bone, will slide from their bodies while still standing. Then all the surviving Nations will send their representatives each year to Jerusalem in the land of Israel, to worship and pay tribute to the Lord who will rule the whole world with justice for a thousand years, and woe betide those who refuse to do so, etc

Zechariah's prophecy has not yet been fulfilled..
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It will not be fulfilled based on the geology of Palestine
 
sooda

sooda

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shunyadragon said:
Too much hypothetical stuff that will take hundreds of thousands of years. Also the Mount of Olives is not close to a plate boundary. It is in the middle of the Sinai Plate, a small plate between the African Plate, West side is the Sinai Fault System, which follows the Red Sea axis. To the East is the Dead Sea Fault system Joins the Red Sea through Gulf of Aquba, and on the East side is the Arabian Plate.

Obviously the geology does not fit.



It will not be fulfilled based on the geology of Palestine
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Apparently it was split by a Roman road that the Christians took to Pella to avoid the tribulation.
 
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