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Do liberals and atheists honestly think Hitler represents Christianity?

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
i never LeARrNeD .tO..tYpE....I ALWAYS had a SecRETAry...and I tYPE With oNE..FINGER.....ONCE I LOOK UP ....I HAVE TO LOOK DOWN....WHEN I LOOK UP..WHAT IS done is done..i am not retyping...i trie to correct spelling...

Okay, you're halfway there. Keep working on it. You'll get it.
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
Remember Jim Baker?


One of the biggest hypocrite on the planet, only eclipsed by that ancient 700 club zombie, who's name shall not be used.

Baker is all about the money, nothing BUT the money, money-money-money. His show? Asks for money no fewer than 60 times a minute or more... (that's a wild-donkey guess-- I've only been able to stomach his show in 30 second intervals...)
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
They deserved the best land in Germany..

The Palestinians shouldn't have paid for Hitler and the Holocaust.

Except there are 22 Arab countries for the Palestinians to choose from; why are they complaining about one of the smallest ones just because there are Jews there?

The other Muslims didn't exactly help the cause by expelling their Mizrahi Jews after Israel's establishment
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Except there are 22 Arab countries for the Palestinians to choose from; why are they complaining about one of the smallest ones just because there are Jews there?

The other Muslims didn't exactly help the cause by expelling their Mizrahi Jews after Israel's establishment
Why should Palestinians have to leave their land for others to take it?
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
Why should Palestinians have to leave their land for others to take it?

Because it was never *their* land; it was part of Jordan. There were 21 other Arabic speaking, Muslim majority countries for the Palestinians to go to.

It's complicated but even if Palestine had a fully functioning government (which they didn't as it was part of Jordan) then how can you explain the exodus of 900,000 Mizrahi Jews from Muslim countries? See this video:


They should've done a population exchange:

 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Because it was never *their* land; it was part of Jordan. There were 21 other Arabic speaking, Muslim majority countries for the Palestinians to go to.

It's complicated but even if Palestine had a fully functioning government (which they didn't as it was part of Jordan) then how can you explain the exodus of 900,000 Mizrahi Jews from Muslim countries? See this video:


They should've done a population exchange:

Regardless, why should people who have been living there for generations leave so some settlers can come and take their land? Answer my question, please.
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
I'm trying to get through the Mao and Pol Pot thread but the notion that Hitler represents over 2 billion people is stupid.

I think being evil has nothing to do with having a particular religion or not having any religion. Psychopaths simply do not have empathy for their fellow man. For some people, the golden rule is a meaningless platitude.

Evil people do evil things because people are not created perfect but have imperfections that make them turn out to be evil. In spite of all the evil, I think God is perfect, good, complete, and lacking nothing. Since desire is the root of all evil, our God is perfect, good, and divine because God is complete, lacks nothing, and has no desires that need to be fulfilled.

God is the greatest possible good. God is the greatest possible great.

All Hitler represents is man having character imperfections that lead to atrocities against his fellow man.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!

You think that those troops were the Nazi extremists?

And if the above pictures have proven to you that Jesus's mission and message was the driving force for Hitler and his crimes ......... obviously you will join with me in agreeing that the Buddha, Buddhism, and Sikhism, and the Hindu religion drove the spirit of the Allies on to victory in the Far East?

This is all rubbish. :D
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
You mean like tЯump supporters?
I wouldn't lump all Trump supporters in to one basket, I know anm English Lady at swimming club who thinks that Trump could have been a Churchill for gathering the people together in a really dark-hour, and she is not religious at all.

But if you mean the horror of Right wing (so-called) Christian extremists, the kind that want to see public executions back for a whole string of OT offences, who want to see Mecca and Medina 'glassed', who believe in Nationalism ........ and worse, why, I don't think that Jesus drives their mindsets, rather that they hold up a cross to hide behind........

You just eliminated something like 99% of all modern christianity in one fell swoop...
Cute.
True......
Yes..... I have.
I know Christian groups (here) that are decent, peaceful, honest and trustworthy in all that they do, and nothing like the majority who call themselves by that name.

And Hitler was not any kind of Christian, imo.

He did. His armies were full of'em. Especially his SS troupes.
Many of the SS regiments were penal .......... mixed bag of 'die on frontline or take a worse punishment' soldiers.

Do you think that these were the elite of Nazism?

If you are trying to show that Jesus and his message/mission was the cause of Nazi wickedness then 'Good Luck' with that. :)
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Do you think that the person who wrote this "wanted to bring the people to Jesus, evangelising and teaching Christ's message?"

OK........... I can do deals. I like doing deals! :)

Firstly, if you think that Jesus wanted the Jewish people to be hurt in any way then imo you couldn't be more wrong.

BUT...... the John who wrote G[-John most certainly does bear responsibility for turning a one-year extension of the Baptist's mission in to a three year contentious confrontation against 'The Jews' and I would have to agree with you that many Jew haters have and do hide behind that gospel in order to massage some kind of 'self-righteous' hatred.

But do you believe that Hitler was driven by that kind of Christianity, or was he driven by jealousy, greed, bigotry etc?

Any attempts to indict Christianity for Nazism, WW11, the 12 million victims of the holocaust and the millions of war dead has to be an extremism all of its own self.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
LIKE I SAID I AM NEW HERE AND MAY HAVE MISSED IT......BUT i have seen nothing to refute my post...the gospels are anonymous and no one mentions them until 160ad......its not my fault they don't know that there are only four gospels..all anonymous..

The gospels are not anonymous, it's just that three were written by 'non-witnesses'.

Three of them were written in the 1st century.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
you are correct...but she ran away as quick as any halfwit...afraid to be challenged..

I'm just a member here, but I wouldn't refer to anybody as being a 'half-wit'.

You've got to realise that some folks on here could be medically mentally-disabled, and throwing descriptions like 'half-wit' around just is not intelligent. :)

Do you laugh at the disabled?
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
OK........... I can do deals. I like doing deals! :)

Firstly, if you think that Jesus wanted the Jewish people to be hurt in any way then imo you couldn't be more wrong.

BUT...... the John who wrote G[-John most certainly does bear responsibility for turning a one-year extension of the Baptist's mission in to a three year contentious confrontation against 'The Jews' and I would have to agree with you that many Jew haters have and do hide behind that gospel in order to massage some kind of 'self-righteous' hatred.

But do you believe that Hitler was driven by that kind of Christianity, or was he driven by jealousy, greed, bigotry etc?

Any attempts to indict Christianity for Nazism, WW11, the 12 million victims of the holocaust and the millions of war dead has to be an extremism all of its own self.
You do realize that you said "OK" and then didn't do the thing you said you were going to do, right?

Let's try again:

Do you think that the person who wrote this "wanted to bring the people to Jesus, evangelising and teaching Christ's message?"
 
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