Subduction Zone
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That is glacially slow. It does not appear to be the norm. What source was that?
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The Bible And Science: Insects
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Earthling
David Henson
Read it again again . . . you'll get it.
So. There are many other videos that show them using all six legs. I have watched them walk that way myself. All six legs.
But the fact remains, that locusts are only given as an example of all the insects that are claimed only to have four legs. You cannot get around that. The Bible is not a science book and the documented claim it makes about insect leg number is wrong.
Earthling
David Henson
Did I make that claim? Where did I allegedly make that claim? Read the post. Like a first grader could.
I do get it. I am an entomologist with 30 years of science training and experience observing and studying insects. There are no insects that have four legs unless you pulled off a pair.
Earthling
David Henson
No he changes his story. Read the post.
Where does the Bible say that?
Do you also post under the name whirlingmerc? Are you allowed to do that?
I read what a first grader wrote, I suppose I can dumb myself down to read it like it was written.
Earthling
David Henson
I don't care what you are, what insect that has six legs doesn't have four?
Earthling
David Henson
You're a waste of space.
whirlingmerc
Well-Known Member
Leviticus 11:21 (ESV)
21 Yet among the winged insects that go on all fours you may eat those that have jointed legs above their feet, with which to hop on the ground.
And surprise surprise the Bible acknowledges there are two hopping legs
Earthling
David Henson
I gave the video. Nothing cruel was done to it. You don't need a scientist to tell which way the wind blows.
Who are you talking about?
Leviticus 11:20-23 - Every winged swarming creature that goes on all fours is a loathsome thing to you. Only this is what you may eat of all the winged swarming creatures that go upon all fours, those that have leaper legs above their feet with which to leap upon the earth.
It is clear that they are referring to all insects and then give an specific example of the locust.
This is just like every other Biblical literalist trying to rationalize and stretch the obvious observation in order to substantiate or promote propaganda rather than applying rational thought.
You made the video? No one is saying that they cannot walk on the front legs, but they also and often use their hind legs to walk as well. You missed that. The Bible missed it too.
All insects have jointed legs that end in jointed feet.
You can stretch it all you want, it will not turn this passage into a science book.
Amazing. The only katydid that walks using its hind legs as well. Except for every other katydid, grasshopper, locust, etc. that walks using them as well.
The hind legs of Orthoptera are referred to as saltatorial legs. Saltation means to jump or leap. As you point out, the specialization does not eliminate them from use in walking and they have six legs.
Then why were they not more accurate in their description of insects? Did insects grow two more legs after the flood as a sign that they really, really wanted their feet to remain on dry land for evermore?
It is probably accurate. The do sometimes walk on the front legs only, but the fact is, they walk with all six as well. If the person writing that part of the Bible had any knowledge of them, they would not have written such inaccurate descriptions of them.
Now you are really trying to stretch things. Face it, the description of the Bible would lead any reasonable person to conclude that the author thought insects only had four legs. That is why I do not turn to it as an authority on science.
What a day to pick to post your little easily-refuted claim when there was a Christian entomologist in the house.
Earthling
David Henson
I'll ask you again. Where in the Bible does it say that?
Name calling and ad hominem are the last resort of the defeated.