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How can anyone doubt God?

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Remarkable!! - the translator chose to use the word River - it can also translate to Ocean

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Compassion

Compassion is the earth,
It is always beneath you regardless of flavor.
It receives all in death,
Without judgment or favor.


Love is the moon,
A beautiful reflection in the lake.
Entwines the favored son,
But fades dancing away in the wake.


Compassion is the sun.
The sun gives warmth and life to all,
Even the dark shadows in the morn
Receive light in the eve whether short or tall.


Love is the moon
Sometime a smile, sometimes not
Dancing in the shadows
Sometimes there, sometimes not


Compassion fills the air.
To some a soft breeze.
Others a deadly roar and a prayer
Not one nor the other to please.


Love is the moon
Playing hide and seek
Sometimes a wink
For those who vainly seek.


Compassion is the sea,
Ascending to the heavens unseen,
Returning again to give life.
Or a grave to some in the sea


Love is the rose.
Beautiful to behold,
When no longer a rose,
The thorns take hold.


God is not a chess player
With the white pieces.
God is the sea . . .
And we are the fishes


Frank A Doonan
 

KingTruth

New Member
i read thru this entire post - the original (which I shall admit I had to read twice for it to make any sense) - and the replies - from the sane to the snarky to the obviously concerned ones that worry about the OP originator's mental health -

There is one singular observation - the OP poster has not posted again and we are at post #58 - makes me wonder if this was something designed to spark a litany of comments or simply a troll seeking attention ......

I’m only hear to supply information. I know the facts and these responses could lead to arguments or debates. What I have, to me, is too practical to be denied.

God’s will is unstoppable. Good is stronger than evil. Simple as ABC. Let’s consider “G” (for God) to the “N” (for end). GHIJKLMN: Get Honestly Infuriated Just Kill Love Make New.

God will physically kill off proven evil humans, then the nothingness or invisible left, he will love, then put in new bodies.

God is omnipotent, he can do absolutely anything good, but preserving evil is impossible.

I can’t bother having conversations with anyone who doubts facts. Is that wrong?
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I can’t bother having conversations with anyone who doubts facts. Is that wrong?

I'd say so. What's the problem with doubting what another person considers a fact? Rational skeptics do that routinely with any claim of fact. It's the essence of skepticism, or the unwillingness to believe insufficiently supported claims. For example, you've supported none of the claims you've just made. They're articles of faith, not demonstrable facts, and I doubt them all.
 

KingTruth

New Member
If it ain’t necessarily so, then kindly tell me what you know.

What don’t you doubt? Death? Who or what invented it? How was it introduced into existence. Why can’t humans defeat it? Was it a human that created death? Consider the concept of suicide.

Is it fair that death happens? Should there be more to life than just a “momentarily” walk in the park?

Some talk about evolution. To me, that is advancing as a species. What can cause that advancement? Is it impossible? What if there was something like magic? After all, the world was probably made from “nothing”! Out of thin air like a magician would do.

It seems like a fairytale, but I believe good things are perpetrated by a good organized God.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
If it ain’t necessarily so, then kindly tell me what you know.

What don’t you doubt? Death? Who or what invented it? How was it introduced into existence. Why can’t humans defeat it? Was it a human that created death? Consider the concept of suicide.

Is it fair that death happens? Should there be more to life than just a “momentarily” walk in the park?

Some talk about evolution. To me, that is advancing as a species. What can cause that advancement? Is it impossible? What if there was something like magic? After all, the world was probably made from “nothing”! Out of thin air like a magician would do.

It seems like a fairytale, but I believe good things are perpetrated by a good organized God.
There is nothing magical about evolution. Perhaps you should try to learn. And no one was needed to invent death. Why make such an assumption? Though according to the Genesis myth that was God's invention.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
What don’t you doubt? Death?

I expect to die.

Who or what invented it? How was it introduced into existence.

Death wasn't invented. It appears to be an inescapable consequence of being born.

Why can’t humans defeat it?

Maybe they can, but haven't done so yet. Don't give up on mankind. It's proven to be a very resourceful species.

Is it fair that death happens?

If death is a necessary consequence of birth, why not? If you had been offered a choice before being born whether you would accept birth and death or neither, would you decline being born? If not, then I presume you approve of the apparent terms and consequences of have being born.

Should there be more to life than just a “momentarily” walk in the park?

Should? You play the hand dealt to you. Like you and everybody else, I'm mortal. I will die. I accept that because I have no choice. Nor do I object. Nor do I resent this apparent fact. It would be ingratitude considering how much I have enjoyed my time here thus far.

Some talk about evolution. To me, that is advancing as a species. What can cause that advancement?

Mankind, like the rest of the tree of life, continues to evolve biologically. In this matter, it is genetic variation shaped by natural selection that causes biological change. Man also evolves culturally. That's where the real advancement has occurred since we entered this phase of our journey.

I believe good things are perpetrated by a good organized God.

I hope that that is true, but I have no reason to believe so at this time.
 

KingTruth

New Member
I expect to die.



Death wasn't invented. It appears to be an inescapable consequence of being born.



Maybe they can, but haven't done so yet. Don't give up on mankind. It's proven to be a very resourceful species.



If death is a necessary consequence of birth, why not? If you had been offered a choice before being born whether you would accept birth and death or neither, would you decline being born? If not, then I presume you approve of the apparent terms and consequences of have being born.



Should? You play the hand dealt to you. Like you and everybody else, I'm mortal. I will die. I accept that because I have no choice. Nor do I object. Nor do I resent this apparent fact. It would be ingratitude considering how much I have enjoyed my time here thus far.



Mankind, like the rest of the tree of life, continues to evolve biologically. In this matter, it is genetic variation shaped by natural selection that causes biological change. Man also evolves culturally. That's where the real advancement has occurred since we entered this phase of our journey.



I hope that that is true, but I have no reason to believe so at this time.
He still believes it ain’t necessarily so, now God must finally show!

You make it seem like Thursday: The Honest Universe Resumes Suddenly Day.

God loves it when people are honest, then he will also “honestly” prove himself. Did you murder the child in you who was fascinated by Santa Claus?

As a human with basic imagination, believing in magic should be the easier choice?

If it ain’t necessarily so, then please, of the truth, do let me know!
 

KingTruth

New Member
You mean like the 30,000 kids who will die today? Like every other day?

Ciao

- viole[/QUOTE
You mean like the 30,000 kids who will die today? Like every other day?

Ciao

- viole
You should wonder why does kids are able to die. Why would something allegedly with life, ever be able to lose that life?

In movies, the good superhero always lives and is celebrated. The bad villain, is always liable to death and loss.

You getting anything?

Good and bad are different. Thus, the God and the bad have opposite fates.

Evil dies forever. Good is eternal.

Fact or fabrication?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You should wonder why does kids are able to die. Why would something allegedly with life, ever be able to lose that life?

In movies, the good superhero always lives and is celebrated. The bad villain, is always liable to death and loss.

You getting anything?

Good and bad are different. Thus, the God and the bad have opposite fates.

Evil dies forever. Good is eternal.

Fact or fabrication?
Fabrication.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
You should wonder why does kids are able to die. Why would something allegedly with life, ever be able to lose that life?

In movies, the good superhero always lives and is celebrated. The bad villain, is always liable to death and loss.

You getting anything?

Good and bad are different. Thus, the God and the bad have opposite fates.

Evil dies forever. Good is eternal.

Fact or fabrication?

Apart from saying that Immortality is closer to fiction (movies) than to reality, I am not sure what your point is.

Ciao

- viole
 

ManSinha

Well-Known Member
He still believes it ain’t necessarily so, now God must finally show!

You make it seem like Thursday: The Honest Universe Resumes Suddenly Day.

God loves it when people are honest, then he will also “honestly” prove himself. Did you murder the child in you who was fascinated by Santa Claus?

As a human with basic imagination, believing in magic should be the easier choice?

If it ain’t necessarily so, then please, of the truth, do let me know!

@KingTruth
Is your God all powerful and all knowing?
 
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