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How can anyone doubt God?

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QuestioningMind

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KingTruth said:
You know what good is, if humans were really good, do you think they’d ever die? All humans are truly evil beings because all humans die someday. You know that the wages of sin is death. Humans are all obviously sin. The fact is out. If there’s no God, do you really believe that humans and their temporary existences are the most superior beings available? That humans keep dying, cycle after cycle, generation after generation and yet something keeps existence running smoothly. God is the one who has been alive since the beginning to ensure that everything happens as it should. Death has been happening since the beginning of human existence.

If there’s no God, it would mean that everything in existence is defective and imperfect. Obviously, you know that there are good things in existence. God is the force responsible for the good things.

Furthermore, do you realize that humans have to depend on something other than themselves to know how they look? A baby would never know his face if it weren’t for a mirror. You think God uses a freaking mirror to see himself? There’s evidence to show that humanity is not perfect and therefore is evil. Only good is perfect. Undeniable truth.

What powers do humans have? Produce feces, produce urine, produce sweat, have anus, repulsive body odors etc Humans are 100% imperfect and therefore are all evil.

Diseases like cancer exist to terminate humanity. Humans don’t have the power to defeat disease because they are bad and evil. The force of goodness put such things in place to ensure that evil continues to die.

Yes, evil still exists today, but one day, evil would have suffered sufficient killer blows to be deleted. Then all humanity would be dead in hell for eternity. This all means that God is working secretly at the helm, even though you can’t see him.
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What a truly moronic claim. ALL living things die and ALL living things are NOT evil. Your inability to use basic logic and rational thought is truly staggering.
 
Rational Agnostic

Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
KingTruth said:
You know what good is, if humans were really good, do you think they’d ever die? All humans are truly evil beings because all humans die someday. You know that the wages of sin is death. Humans are all obviously sin. The fact is out. If there’s no God, do you really believe that humans and their temporary existences are the most superior beings available? That humans keep dying, cycle after cycle, generation after generation and yet something keeps existence running smoothly. God is the one who has been alive since the beginning to ensure that everything happens as it should. Death has been happening since the beginning of human existence.

If there’s no God, it would mean that everything in existence is defective and imperfect. Obviously, you know that there are good things in existence. God is the force responsible for the good things.

Furthermore, do you realize that humans have to depend on something other than themselves to know how they look? A baby would never know his face if it weren’t for a mirror. You think God uses a freaking mirror to see himself? There’s evidence to show that humanity is not perfect and therefore is evil. Only good is perfect. Undeniable truth.

What powers do humans have? Produce feces, produce urine, produce sweat, have anus, repulsive body odors etc Humans are 100% imperfect and therefore are all evil.

Diseases like cancer exist to terminate humanity. Humans don’t have the power to defeat disease because they are bad and evil. The force of goodness put such things in place to ensure that evil continues to die.

Yes, evil still exists today, but one day, evil would have suffered sufficient killer blows to be deleted. Then all humanity would be dead in hell for eternity. This all means that God is working secretly at the helm, even though you can’t see him.
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Yeah, we humans really are horrible and defective creatures aren't we? Almost makes you wonder why a perfect God made us so defective, huh?
 
Evangelicalhumanist

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Hubert Farnsworth said:
Yeah, we humans really are horrible and defective creatures aren't we? Almost makes you wonder why a perfect God made us so defective, huh?
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It's not just that! His philosophy makes it clear that he thinks a perfect, and perfectly good, God created a universe in which everything changes (dies, morphs, whatever) and is therefor not perfect...and being not perfect is evil. So his philosophy is essentially that EVERYTHING created by God is evil.

Neat, eh?
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Evangelicalhumanist said:
It's not just that! His philosophy makes it clear that he thinks a perfect, and perfectly good, God created a universe in which everything changes (dies, morphs, whatever) and is therefor not perfect...and being not perfect is evil. So his philosophy is essentially that EVERYTHING created by God is evil.

Neat, eh?
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I detect questionable premises.
 
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Timothy Spurlin

Active Member
KingTruth said:
You know what good is, if humans were really good, do you think they’d ever die? All humans are truly evil beings because all humans die someday. You know that the wages of sin is death. Humans are all obviously sin. The fact is out. If there’s no God, do you really believe that humans and their temporary existences are the most superior beings available? That humans keep dying, cycle after cycle, generation after generation and yet something keeps existence running smoothly. God is the one who has been alive since the beginning to ensure that everything happens as it should. Death has been happening since the beginning of human existence.

If there’s no God, it would mean that everything in existence is defective and imperfect. Obviously, you know that there are good things in existence. God is the force responsible for the good things.

Furthermore, do you realize that humans have to depend on something other than themselves to know how they look? A baby would never know his face if it weren’t for a mirror. You think God uses a freaking mirror to see himself? There’s evidence to show that humanity is not perfect and therefore is evil. Only good is perfect. Undeniable truth.

What powers do humans have? Produce feces, produce urine, produce sweat, have anus, repulsive body odors etc Humans are 100% imperfect and therefore are all evil.

Diseases like cancer exist to terminate humanity. Humans don’t have the power to defeat disease because they are bad and evil. The force of goodness put such things in place to ensure that evil continues to die.

Yes, evil still exists today, but one day, evil would have suffered sufficient killer blows to be deleted. Then all humanity would be dead in hell for eternity. This all means that God is working secretly at the helm, even though you can’t see him.
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You have to prove your god is real. What objective evidence do you have?
Prove sin is death. Sin is a human construct, meant to control people.
Your god is a human construct too.
 
Dell

Dell

Asteroid insurance?
I thought about replying to refute the content of this absurd post, but rather say... dude take a break from whatever it is your doing and do a reality check!!! Disconnect the idea that sin brought death into this world. Death has naturally been around almost as long as life has. Evil has been around as long as good has. It's simple balance mechanics not complicated theology....
 
Tiberius

Tiberius

Well-Known Member
KingTruth said:
You know what good is, if humans were really good, do you think they’d ever die?
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You are starting from the unproven assumption that something that is good must be eternal.

Please prove this assumption, and we can go from there.
 
Jumi

Jumi

Well-Known Member
KingTruth said:
What powers do humans have? Produce feces, produce urine, produce sweat, have anus, repulsive body odors etc Humans are 100% imperfect and therefore are all evil.
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If you believe you were created evil, what would that make your creator be? I don't get it, but I "believe" in a different God...
 
lewisnotmiller

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Amanaki said:
Life as human being is suffering, Old age, pain, anger, dislikes, frustration, but this is our own fault that we suffer, it does not make human in it self evil. only our thoughts, words or action is evil when we do wrong doings.

When we understand what make us suffer then we can change our words, thoughts and actions to become good.
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Why focus on old age, pain, anger, dislikes and frustration?
Why not life, laughter, enjoyment and love?

Meh...I don't get it. If I ever decided to be One eyed on these matters, I hope I'd at least choose the preferable eye...
 
Spirit of Light

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
lewisnotmiller said:
Why focus on old age, pain, anger, dislikes and frustration?
Why not life, laughter, enjoyment and love?

Meh...I don't get it. If I ever decided to be One eyed on these matters, I hope I'd at least choose the preferable eye...
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It is not focus on being those things, it is focus on how to do not be in pain or suffering :) Buddhism is to understand why suffering happens in life. Not to be misserable
 
wandering peacefully

wandering peacefully

Which way to the woods?
lewisnotmiller said:
Why focus on old age, pain, anger, dislikes and frustration?
Why not life, laughter, enjoyment and love?

Meh...I don't get it. If I ever decided to be One eyed on these matters, I hope I'd at least choose the preferable eye...
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Focusing on the realities of life is not the goal.

It is fully excepting the bad and the good.

This acceptance ends suffering and you are free to enjoy the pleasures of this wonderfilled life. Happy and peaceful are those who accept all of life with understanding nothing remains the same and you are in control of your own mind, thoughts, actions, words and attitude.

To add: When I say focusing I mean dwelling on the past or the future. Your focus is on the reality of the moment. It creates a clarity which allows you to change things if you choose. And it it easier to try to help change things which are harmful to all life. It is not about hiding in the sand, it is about being able to use that sand to build the life you wish to live. My first sentence was so convoluted I hope this helps clarify.
 
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ManSinha

ManSinha

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i read thru this entire post - the original (which I shall admit I had to read twice for it to make any sense) - and the replies - from the sane to the snarky to the obviously concerned ones that worry about the OP originator's mental health -

There is one singular observation - the OP poster has not posted again and we are at post #58 - makes me wonder if this was something designed to spark a litany of comments or simply a troll seeking attention ......
 
ManSinha

ManSinha

Well-Known Member
shunyadragon said:
The quote is from my poetry.
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Remarkable!! - the translator chose to use the word River - it can also translate to Ocean

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