Desert Snake
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Matthew 1:20-22
'An angel of the Lord'
Which Lord?
'An angel of the Lord'
Which Lord?
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Matthew 1:20-22, which 'Lord', is this referring to?
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whirlingmerc
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There is only one Lord, the God Most High... Everything comes from the Source; thus the Divine Council are aspects of its character.
Yahavah = Lord of Creation.
Yehoshua = Lord who Saves.
In my opinion.
Desert Snake
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There is only one Lord, the God Most High... Everything comes from the Source; thus the Divine Council are aspects of its character.
Yahavah = Lord of Creation.
Yehoshua = Lord who Saves.
In my opinion.
You have completely separate persons, so forth. So, that answer isn't really clear.
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Desert Snake
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Luke 2:11
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Desert Snake
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'sacrifice', spiritually by Jesus.
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Desert Snake
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Jesus does say that He does this of His own accord. The sacrifice, so forth. So...
Desert Snake
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Jesus is called Lord, divine sense, in other words, Jesus cannot be a 'separate', person from God.
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H3444 (Yeshua) + H1961 (To become) = Exodus 15:2-3, Psalms 118:14-21, Isaiah 12:2 (2 Samuel 10:11 David Vs Ammon) +5 Verses Isaiah
H3444 (Yeshua) + H7200 (To see) = Exodus 14:13, Psalms 98:3, Isaiah 52:10 (2 Chronicles 20:17 Jehoshaphat Vs Ammon)
They're the same One Source in different forms.
In my opinion.
Desert Snake
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Mmhmm...and the 'source', known by one name?H3444 (Yeshua) + H1961 (To become) = Exodus 15:2-3, Psalms 118:14-21, Isaiah 12:2 (2 Samuel 10:11 David Vs Ammon) +5 Verses Isaiah
H3444 (Yeshua) + H7200 (To see) = Exodus 14:13, Psalms 98:3, Isaiah 52:10 (2 Chronicles 20:17 Jehoshaphat Vs Ammon)
They're the same One Source in different forms.
In my opinion.
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The Source is the God Most High, which is beyond sound and images, as it makes all of our reality...
Thus it is all sounds, and all names.
In my opinion.
Desert Snake
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Including 'satan', so forth. Just clearing that up.The Source is the God Most High, which is beyond sound and images, as it makes all of our reality...
Thus it is all sounds, and all names.
In my opinion.
whirlingmerc
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On the other hand, Jesus prays to the Father. Additionally, Jesus calls the Holy Spirit 'another helper.' This suggests the Father and the Spirit are other persons.
Desert Snake
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That doesn't affect what I wrote. What I wrote didn't say there weren't different persons, or even completely different persons, which is basically what some churches teach, even though it's obfuscated.
Desert Snake
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If one is reading the text 'literally', then the verses mean Jesus, if one accepts that 'Lord', could mean "the father", then that still doesn't mean that Jesus isn't God. So, if one is only calling the " father", 'G- d', then they would need to explain the verses that don't specify the "father".
This 'totally different persons', obfuscatory configuration is problematic and contradictory. It basically claims that Jesus isn't G- d, while not saying it directly. Some type of metaphor, or such, it certainly doesn't match Scripture.
This 'totally different persons', obfuscatory configuration is problematic and contradictory. It basically claims that Jesus isn't G- d, while not saying it directly. Some type of metaphor, or such, it certainly doesn't match Scripture.
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