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Why did God send Messenger to convey His message instead of directly coming to speak?

ACEofALLaces

Active Member
Premium Member
For those who believe that God sent Prophets and Messengers, the Question is why He did not directly make Himself appear on earth and talk to humanity?
I suppose those who believe in Prophets and Messengers would be limited to Jews, Christians, Muslims, Zoroatrians, and Bahais. If I missed anyone else, please include.


If you say, God is invisible or cannot possibly come to earth as a Being, then how do you explain those verses in your Holy Book which explicitly speaks of the Day of Resurrection or the judgement Day, or the Last Day, when the Lord would be on earth?

I do not have any such "holy book".....however a simply response to your question, is that this God is just too LAZY to do it Himself. You might call it a "cosmic version" of "delegation of authority."
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
For those who believe that God sent Prophets and Messengers, the Question is why He did not directly make Himself appear on earth and talk to humanity?
I suppose those who believe in Prophets and Messengers would be limited to Jews, Christians, Muslims, Zoroatrians, and Bahais. If I missed anyone else, please include.


If you say, God is invisible or cannot possibly come to earth as a Being, then how do you explain those verses in your Holy Book which explicitly speaks of the Day of Resurrection or the judgement Day, or the Last Day, when the Lord would be on earth?

The LORD has his own angel, known as the "angel of the LORD". The "LORD" does not apparently deal well with stupidity. When the LORD sent his "angel of the LORD" to have supper with Abraham, the two friends of the "angel of the LORD" wound up blowing Sodom away. The "angel of the LORD", the "arm of the LORD", is a tough customer. Very many visits to earth, and everyone would be dead. Fortunately, he has set a limit on casualties for the "awesome day of the LORD" (Joel 2:31), for according to Joel 2:32, there will be survivors. The messengers simply warn the earth inhabitants to take care of one another, or suffer the consequences. Of course, many of the earth inhabitants took that to mean that men are to sleep with men as their way of loving, and God's messengers have to wind up raining fire down upon them. It is like on the day of creation, when the call went out for brains, men thought the angel had said rain, and they went and got umbrellas instead. I guess as long as men humor God with their antics, they will be safe. When he tires of their constant stupidity, their end is at hand (is coming) (Psalms 37:12).

Psalms 37:12 The wicked scheme against the righteous and gnash their teeth at them, 13 but the Lord laughs, seeing that their day is coming.

Jeremiah 4:22 “For my people are foolish; they know me not; they are stupid children; they have no understanding. They are ‘wise’—in doing evil! But how to do good they know not.”

Proverbs 17:11-12 A rebellious person seeks evil; a cruel emissary will be sent to oppose him. It’s better to meet a mother bear who has lost her cubs than a fool in his stupidity.
 
For those who believe that God sent Prophets and Messengers, the Question is why He did not directly make Himself appear on earth and talk to humanity?
I suppose those who believe in Prophets and Messengers would be limited to Jews, Christians, Muslims, Zoroatrians, and Bahais. If I missed anyone else, please include.


If you say, God is invisible or cannot possibly come to earth as a Being, then how do you explain those verses in your Holy Book which explicitly speaks of the Day of Resurrection or the judgement Day, or the Last Day, when the Lord would be on earth?

If I was God I wouldn't want too talk to us directly ether.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
"Baha'u'llah has shown that a Messenger from God can also be called a Manifestation of God."

So. Bahaullah did not claim to be a Messenger of God. If yes then please quote from Kitab-e-Iqan.
And as our another Bahai friend here told us that Bahaullah has expressly denied claiming to be any sort of God.
In that case Bahaullah is neither a Messenger of God nor a god, please. Right, please?
Manifestation of God is a term coined by Bahaullah/Bahais and it has no seal/certification from Quran, please.
If yes, then please quote from Quran.
"Shown" is not the same as claiming or becoming, please.
Maybe this passage will help clarify. In it Baha'u'llah is referring to ALL the Manifestations of God, so it would include Himself. A Manifestation of God is also a Messenger of God, a Servant of God, and the Voice of God. In the Writings of Baha'u'llah, He speaks from all these different stations.

“Were any of the all-embracing Manifestations of God to declare: “I am God,” He, verily, speaketh the truth, and no doubt attacheth thereto. For it hath been repeatedly demonstrated that through their Revelation, their attributes and names, the Revelation of God, His names and His attributes, are made manifest in the world. Thus, He hath revealed: “Those shafts were God’s, not Thine.” And also He saith: “In truth, they who plighted fealty unto Thee, really plighted that fealty unto God.” And were any of them to voice the utterance, “I am the Messenger of God,” He, also, speaketh the truth, the indubitable truth. Even as He saith: “Muḥammad is not the father of any man among you, but He is the Messenger of God.” Viewed in this light, they are all but Messengers of that ideal King, that unchangeable Essence. And were they all to proclaim, “I am the Seal of the Prophets,” they, verily, utter but the truth, beyond the faintest shadow of doubt. For they are all but one person, one soul, one spirit, one being, one revelation. They are all the manifestation of the “Beginning” and the “End,” the “First” and the “Last,” the “Seen” and the “Hidden”—all of which pertain to Him Who is the Innermost Spirit of Spirits and Eternal Essence of Essences. And were they to say, “We are the Servants of God,” this also is a manifest and indisputable fact. For they have been made manifest in the uttermost state of servitude, a servitude the like of which no man can possibly attain. Thus in moments in which these Essences of Being were deep immersed beneath the oceans of ancient and everlasting holiness, or when they soared to the loftiest summits of Divine mysteries, they claimed their utterances to be the Voice of Divinity, the Call of God Himself.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 54-55
 
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