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Chiristianity can be harmful to children.

nPeace

nPeace

Veteran Member
metis said:
I would use the term "some" over "massive".

For example, in Catholicism we're not scriptural literalists, plus it's recognized that there's very much a human element to be found within the scriptures. How much varies, but we are not anywhere near as literalistic as most fundamentalist Protestants or JW's for example..

Thus, what one could do as a Catholic would be to take what's in the Sermon On the Mount and pretty much just go with that to get at the inner core of what we should believe and do. I assume you're familiar with that, no?
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JWs are not literalistic. I think you are aware of that very well. I think you just like to mention us... a lot.......... A whole lot. :D
Do I detect a bit of envy? :tonguewink:
 
MJFlores

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
Nowhere Man said:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-secular-life/201408/does-christianity-harm-children

Is it a good idea to expose young impressionable children to depictions of violence and cruelty?

The articles interesting because I remember when I was a kid and first saw the crucifixion that scene pretty much haunted me for many years joining the proverbial monster under the bed and the Boogeyman in the closet.

Do religions such as Christianity in this case have a responsibility to not terrorize their children prior to their understanding of what death, execution, and human brutality is.

While I do think it's unhealthy to unrealistically cloister children in a protective shell away from things like this, I do think there should be a discernment of when something is introduced too fast and too soon before kids have a proper understanding of what they're seeing and hearing.

What do you think? Should children be exposed right away to the fact that the real world is not a nice and kind place? Or should people wait till they develop an understanding first, so they're not unduly traumatized with something they don't completely understand yet?

It does strike me as a bit strange when you have children sing about Jesus loves me and all that and then walk into a room where all they see is their object of affection nailed to a cross with blood and thorns and a spear wound all with blood streaming out of it.

For all people exposed to Christianity as children, what did the crucifixion do to you at a young age when you first saw it?
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Which do you think children be exposed first - video games or the Bible?


Which do you think children be exposed first - movies or the Bible?


The first time I heard about the Bible and read about it when I was 20 years old.
Are children today avid Bible readers?
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
MJFlores said:
Which do you think children be exposed first - video games or the Bible?


Which do you think children be exposed first - movies or the Bible?


The first time I heard about the Bible and read about it when I was 20 years old.
Are children today avid Bible readers?
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YouTube videos are not the best evidence. As to violence, here is a YouTube video:D

 
MJFlores

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
Subduction Zone said:
YouTube videos are not the best evidence. As to violence, here is a YouTube video:D

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YouTube is just a platform.
They are not makers of the videos.
Every millennial or not know that.
You have Washington Post, CNN, ABC, CBS and a host of other news outlet at YouTube
Even Buddhist and Atheist like Bill Maher have YouTube Channels
Extremist like ISIS had YouTube Channels before.

So what are the kids first exposed to?
Video games or Cartoons?
I would bet on cartoons and movies like the Marvel Universe, the Transformer franchise and so on.

I believe violence starts at home.
A home without love or care
A home without God in their hearts
It is where the child learns violence from his unloving, uncaring and Godless sob parents


Children do not learn violence from the Bible at all.
They are still starting to learn their ABCs

Further what is light cannot be darkness Isaiah 5:20
Lastly why would we blame the Bible for teaching what is love? 1 Corinthians 13
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
MJFlores said:
YouTube is just a platform.
They are not makers of the videos.
Every millennial or not know that.
You have Washington Post, CNN, ABC, CBS and a host of other news outlet at YouTube
Even Buddhist and Atheist like Bill Maher have YouTube Channels
Extremist like ISIS had YouTube Channels before.

So what are the kids first exposed to?
Video games or Cartoons?
I would bet on cartoons and movies like the Marvel Universe, the Transformer franchise and so on.

I believe violence starts at home.
A home without love or care
A home without God in their hearts
It is where the child learns violence from his unloving, uncaring and Godless sob parents


Children do not learn violence from the Bible at all.
They are still starting to learn their ABCs

Further what is light cannot be darkness Isaiah 5:20
Lastly why would we blame the Bible for teaching what is love? 1 Corinthians 13
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The Bible teaches endless violence. Especially the Old Testament.
 
MJFlores

MJFlores

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Subduction Zone said:
The Bible teaches endless violence. Especially the Old Testament.
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It shows punishment for breaking commandments
It depicts historical wars
It depicts triumph of God's people when they are confronted by violence
Children do not read the Bible in their formative age

Children could not comprehend the Bible
As even any theist could not comprehend it.

The play with their cellphones
They have XBox, PS and so fort
They watch TV and movies with violent themes
They have parents who are bad to the bone

What is the end result?


They don't carry KJV they have AR15:eek:
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
MJFlores said:
It shows punishment for breaking commandments
It depicts historical wars
It depicts triumph of God's people when they are confronted by violence
Children do not read the Bible in their formative age

Children could not comprehend the Bible
As even any theist could not comprehend it.

The play with their cellphones
They have XBox, PS and so fort
They watch TV and movies with violent themes
They have parents who are bad to the bone

What is the end result?


They don't carry KJV they have AR15:eek:
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No, sorry. I do not accept that immoral spin.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
DavidMcCann said:
Children are more robust than you think — or they can be, if their parents aren't snowflakes. Think of the folk tales they were raised on in the past! And in a traditional society, they'd be familiar with seeing animals killed and butchered. I'm no friend to Christianity, but this sounds like unnecessary panic.
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There is a difference between farm animal slaughter and the violence and commandments of violence found in the Bible. A child doesn't need to know the details of the Passion, doesn't need to read about bears mauling people to death, doesn't need to read about villages being slaughtered during war, they don't need to be reading about commandments that must be followed or it means death, they don't need to be exposed to the sexual content in the Bible, and they don't need to be exposed to silly rules and mandates that oppress and repress people.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
MJFlores said:
They don't carry KJV they have AR15:eek:
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They probably have both.
56d515c773efc7bd66c0d1ce14451a23--the-bible-kids-bible.jpg

god-country-and-guns-patriotic-design-unisex-fleece-zip-hoodie.jpg
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
MJFlores said:
YouTube is just a platform.
They are not makers of the videos.
Every millennial or not know that.
You have Washington Post, CNN, ABC, CBS and a host of other news outlet at YouTube
Even Buddhist and Atheist like Bill Maher have YouTube Channels
Extremist like ISIS had YouTube Channels before.

So what are the kids first exposed to?
Video games or Cartoons?
I would bet on cartoons and movies like the Marvel Universe, the Transformer franchise and so on.

I believe violence starts at home.
A home without love or care
A home without God in their hearts
It is where the child learns violence from his unloving, uncaring and Godless sob parents


Children do not learn violence from the Bible at all.
They are still starting to learn their ABCs

Further what is light cannot be darkness Isaiah 5:20
Lastly why would we blame the Bible for teaching what is love? 1 Corinthians 13
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Spare the rod and spoil the child.
Let's see...... Proverbs 13:24
 
74x12

74x12

Well-Known Member
Nowhere Man said:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-secular-life/201408/does-christianity-harm-children

Is it a good idea to expose young impressionable children to depictions of violence and cruelty?

The articles interesting because I remember when I was a kid and first saw the crucifixion that scene pretty much haunted me for many years joining the proverbial monster under the bed and the Boogeyman in the closet.

Do religions such as Christianity in this case have a responsibility to not terrorize their children prior to their understanding of what death, execution, and human brutality is.

While I do think it's unhealthy to unrealistically cloister children in a protective shell away from things like this, I do think there should be a discernment of when something is introduced too fast and too soon before kids have a proper understanding of what they're seeing and hearing.

What do you think? Should children be exposed right away to the fact that the real world is not a nice and kind place? Or should people wait till they develop an understanding first, so they're not unduly traumatized with something they don't completely understand yet?

It does strike me as a bit strange when you have children sing about Jesus loves me and all that and then walk into a room where all they see is their object of affection nailed to a cross with blood and thorns and a spear wound all with blood streaming out of it.

For all people exposed to Christianity as children, what did the crucifixion do to you at a young age when you first saw it?
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It was good for me. It made me grateful to know what Jesus Christ did.
 
MJFlores

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
Shadow Wolf said:
They probably have both.
56d515c773efc7bd66c0d1ce14451a23--the-bible-kids-bible.jpg

god-country-and-guns-patriotic-design-unisex-fleece-zip-hoodie.jpg
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Children have bibles?
Maybe they would watch episodes of Super Book but to read the bible?
Really?
I learned to drive a car [18 y.o.] before learning the Bible [20 y.o.].
Or that is America, now days? Oh yes, you have the 2nd Ammendment

A child could handle a 9mm but a 0.45 cal pistol is another thing.
It packs a powerful recoil.

Maybe people are looking for another book, not the Bible.
Maybe it is another kind of people which endorses violence


The Bible teaches parents to:
Discipline children Proverbs 29:17
Not to over correct the children Colossians 3:21
Discipline with care of the children Proverbs 13:24

The Bible teaches children to:
Honor their parents Mark 10:19
To be the joy of their fathers Proverbs 15:20
To take care of their mothers Proverbs 23:22

Since when are these teachings, evil?
 
nPeace

nPeace

Veteran Member
MJFlores said:
It shows punishment for breaking commandments
It depicts historical wars
It depicts triumph of God's people when they are confronted by violence
Children do not read the Bible in their formative age

Children could not comprehend the Bible
As even any theist could not comprehend it.

The play with their cellphones
They have XBox, PS and so fort
They watch TV and movies with violent themes
They have parents who are bad to the bone

What is the end result?


They don't carry KJV they have AR15:eek:
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Wow. Thanks for sharing that video of the... um...young marine. :eek:
Bye bye Scooby-Doo. Scooby Dooby Dooooooooooo.
 
MJFlores

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
Nowhere Man said:
Spare the rod and spoil the child.
Let's see...... Proverbs 13:24
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In America - the rod is spared, so the child is spoiled.
So what did see?


Proverbs 13:24
Proverbs 22:15

Tested and proven, alive and active - the truth that no one bother to care.

List of school massacres by death toll - Wikipedia

School violence in the United States - Wikipedia


Proverbs 23:13
Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish them with the rod, they will not die.

That's true. Because the kids who did these violent things, died in the process.
 
MJFlores

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
Shadow Wolf said:
Children protesting a general lack of gun safety that leads to them being shot and killed at school is them being spoiled?
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We have different cultures and manner of raising our children.
We have different laws governing child-parent relations, as well as gun laws.

School shooting - Wikipedia

List of school shootings in the United States - Wikipedia

If a child knows what is right and wrong with discipline with care, probably all of these would be avoidable.
 
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