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When shown to be wrong will you apologize?
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Three scriptural reasons Barack Obama is the Beast
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Subduction Zone
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Not really. It is only another failed book of prophecy.
sooda
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Daniel wasn't even born until 300 year after the Babylonian exile.
sooda
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Nuttiness and poor scholarship. The Beast of Revelation is/are Roman emperors.
sooda
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While Roman emperors, are among the heads of the beast of Revelation 13:1, apparently, according to you, Nero, the 5th in line of the Augustus Caesars, is the "beast" of Revelation 13:3, which would put him ahead of the 6th head of the beast (Augustus Caesars), under whose term Revelation, according to your reasoning, was supposedly written (Revelation 13:13), which would fall to Galba, an obscure Augustus Caesar, who ruled for 7 months. And while the 10th horn, subsequent Augustus Caesar, Titus, destroyed Jerusalem under the reign of his father, the 9th horn of the Augustus Caesars, neither of them "deceived" those who dwell on the earth". That falls to the Pontifex Maximus, "another" Roman emperor, Constantine, who institutionalized your Roman church, based on pagan customs and full of abominations (Revelation 17:5). You might want to read all of Revelation and Daniel. As for the book of Daniel, its historical perspective starts with Nebuchadnezzar, who ruled in the time of around 600 BC, for whom Daniel interpreted his dreams. The dreams were about the Jews and the nations. The "house of Israel" had been "scattered among the nations" (Ezekiel 36:19) for about 700 years at that time.
Wrong about what? Is Michelle putting her toes in the waters? Does she work with Valerie? Did Obama send plenty of U.S. aid to Kenya. Did Valerie work for the Daley machine? Was Valerie born in Iran? Were her parents considered communist? Did the rival of Kenyatta, while running for president, wind up being eaten by lions? I lived in Kenya for a year while Jomo Kenyatta was president.
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Wrong about everything. Clutching at straws does you no good at all.
I hate to be the teller of bad news, but the Russian pronunciation of Caesar is Czar, and the term Caesar is used for the term dictators. The Russian Czar lived in the 20th century, not in the time of Nero. The term Kaiser, is the term for Caesar, such as dictator, who was defeated along with the Ottomans at the battle of Megiddo, which was located just north of Jerusalem, in the 20th century, not in the time of Nero. The 42 months of the "beast" were when the "beast" was given "authority to act". The "saints", not the "Christians", will be under the thumb of the "beast"/nations/Gentiles, until the "end of the age" (Daniel 12:7-13) & (Hosea 5 & 6), which would be right about when Israel became a nation right after the Hitler dictatorship of Germany, a vestige of Rome and her paganism, was crushed in the 2nd world war. The vestige of Russia, combined with the clay Edom, were crushed together in the 1967 Israel war, when both the Russian advisors and the Muslims were crushed together to set up the revised Jerusalem (Joel 3:1) (Daniel 2:34). You should find the PBS narrative on Nero, and revise your thinking.
sooda
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I think everyone know what Czar means.
The 1967 war was planned since 1953.. Read Moshe Dayan. The Israelis wanted more fertile land and water.
The Edomites were forcibly converted to Judaism.
Old Testament prophecy has nothing to do with the modern world unless you are a follower of Hal Lindsey of Cyrus Scofield.
I gave you a list for you to evaluate and tell me if I am wrong, and you came up blank. Not good. If everything I said was wrong, simply deny the following.
Jun 09, 2012 · In 1991, while Deputy Chief of Staff for Mayor Richard Daley, Jarrett hired Michelle Robinson, then engaged to Barack Obama. Finance responsibilities Valerie Jarrett ran the finances for Obama’s 2004 Senate bid and served as treasurer of Obama's HOPEFUND.
valerie jarrett mayor daley corrupt - Bing
sooda
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I think he's talking about the son of Jomo Kenyatta.. The son must be around Obama's age.
In any case.. anyone who knows anything about airline travel to Africa in 1961 knows its impossible for Obama to have been born in Kenya. None of the birthers have ever read US citizenship law. Its silly.
Jarrett left Iran when she was 5 and her parents weren't communists, they were doctors.
Caesars/dictators still rule today. Most under the guise of a democracy, such as Putin, Maduro, and Merkel. The neighbors of Israel, such as the Palestinians, and Iranians, still "conspire" to "wipe out them/Israel" "as a nation" (Psalm 83), as was done in the 1967 and 73 wars. Judea was a land of rocks and wilderness. Prior to the Israelis, there was little fruitful land and little water. And the Jews don't make converts. You might want to question your liberal professors. As for "Old Testament prophecy", that is what your false prophet Paul used incorrectly to try and give himself credibility. I am afraid that your whole house is built on the traditions of men, and is about to come falling down (Matthew 7:24-27). Without the Spirit of Revelation, there is no understanding. And you certainly won't find it with those who think they are "wise and intelligent" (Matthew 11:25). The revised "Judah" and "Jerusalem" (Joel 3:1) is not fantasy, it is a historical fact. The "capture" of "Jerusalem" by the "nations" will soon be another historical fact (Zechariah 14:1-3). The final "Har-Magedon" will also soon be a historical fact, only most the surviving historians will probably be without pen and paper.
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No you have me a list of nonsense. Conspiracy theory rambling is not evidence.
sooda
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The Jews forcibly converted the Edomites and there were a lot of Berber converts to Judaism.
In fact, the only defeat that Mohammad’s army suffered in their very successful campaigns in the 7th century CE was at the hands of a Jewish Berber queen named La Kahina, who is still revered in Tunisia to this day.
Judea was always stony, poor and arid that's why so many Jews left long before the birth of Christ. In modern Israel.. they have utterly mismanaged water assets for 50 years and destroyed the water table,the Jordan River, the Dead Sea and the coastal aquifers.
I was in Kenya in the 70s, when the father, Jomo Kenyatta, was president. As for Valerie's family not being able to be a communist because he was a doctor. Your mind works or doesn't work in mysterious ways.
Valerie Jarrett’s father, maternal grandfather and father-in-law were dedicated communists under prolonged investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, according to FBI files obtained by Judicial Watch. Jarrett is a trusted senior adviser to President Barack Obama. FBI FILES: Valerie Jarrett’s Family Was A Bunch Of Communists
sooda
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Well, he doesn't know.. Back when Vallerie's family was in Iran there was a huge ex-pat community. The Shah was in power.. My mother used to travel to Tehran to play duplicate bridge and sometimes I went with her.
Claiming Jarrett's parents were communists is extreme stupidity.
Yet your are able to disprove a single one on a long "list of nonsense".
Well I agree with the fact that today the FBI establishment acts corruptly, but they still reported the communist connection with the family of Valerie. Being as she is a supporter of the closet communist Obama, kind of makes their case. In the day, her actions would be under the umbrella of the Comintern, which Stalin supposedly abolished, not. Apparently your world travels to Iran under the Shaw, has not opened your eyes to Iran, under the present Ali Khamenei, who is a close trading partner with present Russian dictatorship, communist China, as well as a collaborator with the communist North Korea.
The Communist International (Comintern), known also as the Third International (1919–1943), was an international organization that advocated world communism. The Comintern resolved at its Second Congress to "struggle by all available means, including armed force, for the overthrow of the international bourgeoisie and the creation of an international Soviet republic as a transition stage to the complete abolition of the state". The Comintern had been preceded by the 1916 dissolution of the Second International. comintern - Bing