Maximilian
Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
And Christ Jesus himself unequivocally declared, "Whoever is not on my side is against me." (Mathew 12:30; Luke 11:23)
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Biblical Slavery - How Could A Loving God Condone It?
- Thread starter Maximilian
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And Christ Jesus himself unequivocally declared, "Whoever is not on my side is against me." (Mathew 12:30; Luke 11:23)
Yes, I can. For instance, the Romans took their slaves from people losing a war. So, no kidnapping.
And you still have to answer if your leviticus conteplates asking the bought ones what they really want. Your book wont say. It just speaks of treating them like properties to be inherited from father to child.
Cio
- viole
Maximilian
Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
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dybmh
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And yet you trust ISIS when they claim to follow the Qur'an?
Is not believing that He exists on his side or against him? I woukd say none of them applies.
I hope so. I don’t believe that Mickey Mouse exists either, but I would be sad if someone believes I am against him.
Ciao
- viole
Maximilian
Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
Again, figure it out otherwise your condemnations are insignificant.
Maximilian
Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
Because everything they do is absolutely and completely consistent with the Qur'an. If it weren't they wouldn't be Muslim.
Maximilian
Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
If you refuse to embrace all of the evidence for his existence how can you be on his side?
SkepticThinker
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Good question. This is why I don't trust people who blindly follow orders found in ancient holy books. I don't think such people are practicing morality at all; they're just doing what they're told.
sooda
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The name "antichrist" is only found in 1 John 2:18, 2:22, 4:3, and 2 John 7.. so don't make the mistake of ASSUMING.
There were many antichrists in the days of the apostle John, the end of the first century AD. These antichrists pretended to be part of God's true church, but as John writes in verse 19: "They went out from us, but they were not of us."
What is an antichrist?
A key is found in II John 7: "For many deceivers have gone out into the world, who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist."
When John brings up the concept of antichrists, he does so while talking about false teaching within the church community.
Lots of people were leaving the church and trying to organize their own followings. They were the antichrists
The prophetic material in the New Testament is about events that were to happen to that first-century generation leading up to the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70.
Jesus was clear on this point: “This generation will not pass away until all these things take place” (Matt. 24:34). “This generation” always refers to the generation to whom Jesus was speaking (23:36; 10:23; 11:16; 12:39, 41, 42; 45; Luke 11:50, 51; 17:25).
Nothing about a great leader or the Middle East or Israel.. That's Hal Lindsey..
sooda
Veteran Member
Nope.. You're wrong.
Maximilian
Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
You don't think anyone is practicing morality because, in your worldview, there is no morality.
Maximilian
Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
And Christ Jesus himself unequivocally declared, "Whoever is not on my side is against me." (Mathew 12:30; Luke 11:23)
Forgive me if I accept Christ's own proclamations over your quaint musings . . .
sooda
Veteran Member
Moralists are often mean, miserable people... Have you ever met a happy, kind JW?
sooda
Veteran Member
Christ never said anything about antichrists and you refuse to look at what John said.
Maximilian
Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
That's it? That's all you've got?
"That which can be claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
Accordingly, consider your fatuous claims dismissed.
Believe it or not, you can start questioning your claims of an absolute, incontrovertible truth. It's all up to you. I admit it's not an easy path but it's possible because many before you have succeeded.
Maximilian
Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
"The Jews were victims because their experience was not a matter of choice. But the Witnesses did have a choice. They are people to be respected for not giving in." - Michael Berenbaum, director of the Research Institute at the US Holocaust Museum
“They refuse any form of violence and without rebelling put up with the many trials inflicted on them because of their beliefs. . . How different the world would be if we all woke up one morning firmly decided not to take up arms again, whatever the cost or the reason, just like Jehovah’s Witnesses!” - “Andare Alle Genti”
“[Jehovah’s Witnesses are] well known as very nice, kind, and meek people who are very easy to deal with, never put any pressure on other people and always seek peace in their relationship with others . . . There are no bribe-takers, drunkards or drug addicts among them, and the reason is very simple: They just try to be guided by their Bible-based convictions in everything they do or say. If all the people in the world at least tried to live according to the Bible the way Jehovah’s Witnesses do, our cruel world would be absolutely different.” - The Moscow Times
“I am not a Witness. But I am a witness to the fact that the Witnesses witness to efficiency and proper behaviour. . . . If they were the only people in the world, we would not at night have to bolt our doors shut and put on the burglar alarm.” - Journal de Montréal in Canada
"The Jehovah's Witnesses are unique because they could have avoided their fate. But in the face of torture and death, they chose not to, and stood by their principles." -Karen Jensen-Germaine, a senior researcher for non-Jewish survivors at Shoa
“Now I hold no brief for [Jehovah’s] Witnesses.... But spare a thought for the other side of the coin. Their moral stance, based on a belief in God’s absolute standards, is unimpeachable. More to the present point, each Witness devoted the equivalent of something like three evenings a week to doctrine, systematic Bible study, and practical day to day Christian living, often in one another’s homes.
Not only that, but each Witness is also taught that, by his very calling, he is necessarily a missionary. He is taught the marketing tools needed to project his message. Door knocking, going out in twos, is a central feature of his life. Witnesses are also zealous in caring for the poor and needy.
In short, ... it is hard not to be reminded of the early Church as depicted in the acts of the Apostles. And the proof of the pudding lies in the eating. Their growth has been explosive. Explicit proclamation can deliver!” - “Catholic Herald”
“It is noteworthy that even these reliable contemporaries [Czech and Slovak Jewish survivors] have with marked admiration testified in favor of prisoners from among Jehovah’s Witnesses. ‘They were very courageous people, who were always helping us in whatever way they could, although running the risk of execution,’ many commented. ‘They prayed for us, as though we belonged to their family; they encouraged us not to give up.’” - “Severočeský Deník”
“All through my sickness [the Witnesses] were diligent nurses. I could not have wished for better care, especially under camp conditions. Jehovah’s Witnesses consider it their duty to help everyone, regardless of religion or nationality.” - “Women in Soviet Prisons”
“If all the religious denominations were like Jehovah’s witnesses, we would have no murders, burglaries, delinquencies, prisoners and atomic bombs. Doors would not be locked day in and day out.” - Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe, Former Governor-General of Nigeria
“I have come to the conclusion that if Jehovah’s Witnesses were the only ones living on the earth, wars would cease to exist, and the only duties of the policemen would be to control traffic and to issue passports.” - “Gyűrű”
“Suffice it to say that if all the world lived by the creed of the Jehovah Witnesses there would be an end of bloodshed and hatred, and love would reign as king!”- “The Sacramento Union”
“The work of Jehovah’s Witnesses is the revival and re-establishment of the primitive Christianity practised by Jesus and his disciples... All are brothers.” - “The Encyclopedia Canadiana”
“Thirty thousand at the Olympic Stadium in silence... No litter, no noise, no shouting. That was the scene in the Olympic Stadium yesterday... No unseemly gesturing, not a cigarette, not a [beverage] can. Only open Bibles, people taking notes, and children sitting quietly.”—L’Unità, reporting on a convention of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Rome.
The Encyclopedia of Early Christianity states: “The early church saw itself as one new humanity in which previously hostile groups, Jews and Gentiles, could live together in one body of peace.” Jehovah’s Witnesses also are a peace-loving international brotherhood—truly a new world society. (Ephesians 2:11-18; 1 Peter 5:9; 2 Peter 3:13) When the chief security officer of the Pretoria Show Grounds in South Africa saw how Witnesses of all races met there peaceably as convention delegates, he said: “Everyone was and is courteous, people speaking nicely to one another, the attitude displayed the past few days—it all testifies to the calibre of the members of your society, and that all live together like one happy family.” - “They Keep On Walking in the Truth”
sooda
Veteran Member
I have read the Koran and lived around Muslims for about 20 years.. You are hawking some BS from an internet hate site.
SkepticThinker
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Not yet.