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Do you think climate change has a purpose?

Muffled

Jesus in me
Could it be in God's plan to cause it? Maybe He wants us to prevent it? To test us? Maybe it can't be prevented? Maybe it's just our slow distruction? Maybe it's nothing much.

I believe it is a sign that the end times are coming.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Just my opinion, I don't think there is a purpose to anything, unless we consciously make a purpose for it. Stuff happens, we have to find a way to deal with whatever happens. Sometimes we find a purpose dealing with the stuff that happens.

I believe if there is a stop sign it is there for the purpose of making sure cars don't collide crossing an intersection. If I ignore the sign I put my life in jeopardy. The same is true of God's signs. Ignore them at your own risk.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Could it be in God's plan to cause it? Maybe He wants us to prevent it? To test us? Maybe it can't be prevented? Maybe it's just our slow distruction? Maybe it's nothing much.

Nothing has an ultimate purpose. There are only mechanisms. If you pump gas in the athmosphere that blocks heat, then you get warm.

Just simple, ateological, physics. No need to invoke fantasy entities trying to test us and such :)

Ciao

- viole
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Could it be in God's plan to cause it? Maybe He wants us to prevent it? To test us? Maybe it can't be prevented? Maybe it's just our slow distruction? Maybe it's nothing much.
That's asking if it's in God's will for us to sin.

Look, if you are the standard Christian who uses the Bible for your morality, you believe God placed mankind in authority over the earth. Stewards. Gardeners of his world. It's a RESPONSIBILITY. Don't you have a parable by Jesus about the gardeners who didn't take care of the orchard and how the owner became angry with them?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I believe if there is a stop sign it is there for the purpose of making sure cars don't collide crossing an intersection. If I ignore the sign I put my life in jeopardy. The same is true of God's signs. Ignore them at your own risk.

I went to DMV to learn the meaning of traffic signs. The meaning of God's signs seem as varied as there are around to people interpret them.

So to me it's just random people I don't really know making statements about signs from God.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Could it be in God's plan to cause it? Maybe He wants us to prevent it? To test us? Maybe it can't be prevented? Maybe it's just our slow distruction? Maybe it's nothing much.

Climate has probably always changed, and I believe it would change even if humans would not exist. People probably can’t stop change. And actually, I don’t see why we should stop change to this situation. People are not destroyed because of climate change. More probably people will be destroyed because of evilness, greed, selfishness and other really harmful states of mind.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Could it be in God's plan to cause it? Maybe He wants us to prevent it? To test us? Maybe it can't be prevented? Maybe it's just our slow distruction? Maybe it's nothing much.

Or maybe, just maybe, it's good ol' and blind action-reaction in physical processes.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Agreed. One thing I have come to realize it's a 100% science caused issue. Science is seeing it's behavior play out in the environment. The notion of science as all reasoned has played out as false based on the evidence empirically. One can deny it but then that is the causality. We are in a"Noah's ark moment in time, but that is way to difficult to understand scientifically.

Or it could be grandma's reading bronze age poetry on Sundays as the real culprit and problem? I don't think so... .

Nonsense.

Scientists have been warning about this for decades. Like 60+ years.
But oil business' lobbyists undermined it all on purpose and actually actively spread misinformation about it, all just to make a bundle of money.
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
Climate has probably always changed, and I believe it would change even if humans would not exist.
Past warming trends had identifiable natural causes (orbital changes, solar forcing). The current warming trend has no such identified natural cause and is only explained when human causes are factored in.

And actually, I don’t see why we should stop change to this situation. People are not destroyed because of climate change. More probably people will be destroyed because of evilness, greed, selfishness and other really harmful states of mind.
We should do all we can to slow, then halt, then reverse the trend because of the consequences that are happening now and will happen in the future.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
As Democrats have talking climate change since back in the 1970s and still nothing has happened.

Except warmth records being broken year after year, extreme weather and storms getting more and more frequent, habitat of plenty of animals being destroyed gradually, massive ongoing and approaching extinction of insects and other animals, etc.

And it will only get worse.

Its come down to be nothing more but a scam of Democrats to get money from the gullible.

Instead, you are the victim of propaganda of the oil industry who actively lobby and spread misinformation. You may guess 3 times why.

The irony is not delicious. It's dramatic and traggic.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Climate has probably always changed, and I believe it would change even if humans would not exist. People probably can’t stop change. And actually, I don’t see why we should stop change to this situation. People are not destroyed because of climate change. More probably people will be destroyed because of evilness, greed, selfishness and other really harmful states of mind.

Ironically....

It's greed and selfishness that keeps the world from acting on this climate thing, which in turn will be destroying people - make no mistake about it.
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
Could it be in God's plan to cause it? Maybe He wants us to prevent it? To test us? Maybe it can't be prevented? Maybe it's just our slow distruction? Maybe it's nothing much.
Climate change is the result of events. There is no purpose for it. The current climate change is the result of human action through habitat destruction, excessive CO2 and Methane release and paving all of the productive land which should support plant life which protect against climate change. God did not cause this and it can be prevented but only when we accept what we are doing is wrong and fix it. The reason it has gotten this bad is the incorrect view that it "maybe its nothing much". It is from human action and human greed so it is up to humans to fix it.
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
Sure climate change has a purpose, to convince people to put more money in Democrats pockets.
As Democrats have talking climate change since back in the 1970s and still nothing has happened.
Its come down to be nothing more but a scam of Democrats to get money from the gullible.
So you have no education in ecology, climate or environmental science - just a misplaced anger against Democrats. It is your attitude which stops us from doing what we need to do to give future generations a world to live in. Ignorance of what is happening is the greatest danger to our world and shows a lack of compassion and caring.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
So you have no education in ecology, climate or environmental science - just a misplaced anger against Democrats. It is your attitude which stops us from doing what we need to do to give future generations a world to live in. Ignorance of what is happening is the greatest danger to our world and shows a lack of compassion and caring.


Yeah and Democrats have been talking that since back in 1973 and the earth is still doing Ok.
And back at that time people fell into it, until people figured out it was just a scam by the democrats to get money.

You think a climate change is going to effect the earth.
Seeing how the earth, has face much more.

The earth went through, earthquakes, volcanoes, ice age, tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, fires and the earth is still here and doing find.
And you think a climate change is going to effect the earth.
Give me a break.
Give the democrats your money because that's all they want
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Nonsense.

Scientists have been warning about this for decades. Like 60+ years.
But oil business' lobbyists undermined it all on purpose and actually actively spread misinformation about it, all just to make a bundle of money.
lets see fanatic. oil discovery? the bible or science? oil extraction? the bible or science? oil synthesis? science or the bible? oil distribution? science or the bible? oil consumption? Science? nope.....


oh well you have at least .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% correct.

But I wouldn't rely on your fractional as fact. different words actually. So science is 99.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% at fault. my mistake sorry. science is not a philosophy its a mindless pursuit of what ever appears at the present. sort of like seals looking for fish.
 
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