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Wall built?

Riders

Well-Known Member
Wow so there os a lawsuit against Trump using his veto power to go against congress to get his emergency money by the state of California. He wont be able to pass it through congress because both Republicans and Democrats will vote it down, people are trying to pass the law so he wont be able to do that.

A big bunch of people who are being thrown out of their houses on the street and have no where to live if the wall gets built are taking Trump to court which has to be done with before he is allowed to actually build, so if he gets to build it, could be 5 years from now LOL.

There are actually a bunch of others trying use the courts to vote down the wall. Looks like the whole world is against trumps wall except Pence and his followers wow!

Sense Trump promised y'all a wall built way earlier then now wonder what you ll think about the wall that never get built LOL!
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Wow so there os a lawsuit against Trump using his veto power to go against congress to get his emergency money by the state of California. He wont be able to pass it through congress because both Republicans and Democrats will vote it down, people are trying to pass the law so he wont be able to do that.

A big bunch of people who are being thrown out of their houses on the street and have no where to live if the wall gets built are taking Trump to court which has to be done with before he is allowed to actually build, so if he gets to build it, could be 5 years from now LOL.

There are actually a bunch of others trying use the courts to vote down the wall. Looks like the whole world is against trumps wall except Pence and his followers wow!

Sense Trump promised y'all a wall built way earlier then now wonder what you ll think about the wall that never get built LOL!

Uh; where are you getting your information from?
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Live news reports of actual people in tx who spoke on camera live claiming trump is trying to kick them out of their house for the wall but I will get the source dont worry
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
If a few in the Senate find their spines somewhere, there will be a vote against the emergency declaration. Trump will veto and probably not be overridden.

I'm actually of two minds here. The next Democratic President will be entitled to declare a gun violence emergency based on the terrible death toll, a climate change emergency and perhaps a few more based on what Trump is doing.

Part of the basis for that will be "we hate the idea but since they're blocking fixing problems..." (in other words what he's claiming now.

Does anyone want to bet against that?
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Healthcare, education and infrastructure are all considerably more worrisome "emergencies" than the invasion of rapists and drug dealers, IMHO.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Live news reports of actual people in tx who spoke on camera live claiming trump is trying to kick them out of their house for the wall but I will get the source dont worry

The right of imminent domain will fully compensate property owners who must give up their land in order to give way for an effective border security barrier. There will be court challenges, but the SCOTUS will ultimately likely decide the fate of expanded border security in order to prevent harmful narcotics and criminals from entering our nation between or at legal ports of entry along the U.S.-Mexico border .
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
The right of imminent domain will fully compensate property owners who must give up their land in order to give way for an effective border security barrier. There will be court challenges, but the SCOTUS will ultimately likely decide the fate of expanded border security in order to prevent harmful narcotics and criminals from entering our nation between or at legal ports of entry along the U.S.-Mexico border .
well it doesnt matter if he wins or not , hes already been delayed by court cases, they could the court cases going for years.

But hey my best proof of this? He told us 3 years ago the wall would be built by now what happened?Hes already made promises he did not keep. So if you \disagree give me a date and time it will be built and we will see whos wrong.......date and time please
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
What if the landowners, who've lived on the land for generations, don't want to sell their land?
What if the price paid won't cover the structures and improvements the landowners have made over the years?
What if there is no way the price paid would enable the landowners to recreate the businesses they'd established from the land?
What if the landowners don't want to abandon their lives, friends and communities and move into far away condos?

All for a made-up "crisis."
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Healthcare, education and infrastructure are all considerably more worrisome "emergencies" than the invasion of rapists and drug dealers, IMHO.

Trump wants to "win"... doesn't matter if there is a better way.

Doesn't matter if the 21,000 Border Patrol agents are doing a good job.. or the Coast Guard is doing a good job.. or US Customs and Immigration is doing a good job. He wants his wall... But, he won't get behind E-VERIFY and penalize employers who hire illegals.

He's dumb and childish.. and, should be drummed out of office.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
well it doesnt matter if he wins or not , hes already been delayed by court cases, they could the court cases going for years.

But hey my best proof of this? He told us 3 years ago the wall would be built by now what happened?Hes already made promises he did not keep. So if you \disagree give me a date and time it will be built and we will see whos wrong.......date and time please

The wall is getting built! Now please let's finish the wall!

Wall Is Being Built, Mile by Mile, Slowly | National Review
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Trump wants to "win"... doesn't matter if there is a better way.

Doesn't matter if the 21,000 Border Patrol agents are doing a good job.. or the Coast Guard is doing a good job.. or US Customs and Immigration is doing a good job. He wants his wall... But, he won't get behind E-VERIFY and penalize employers who hire illegals.

He's dumb and childish.. and, should be drummed out of office.

Most border patrol agents are in favor of the Wall. Border Patrol agents back Trump wall, survey finds
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Have you ever been around multi millionaires? They often have a problem.. They begin to believe their own hype. They think :"I made 30 million in widgets I must know everything about everything."

That's Trump on steroids..

They are highly predictable..

Many millionaires seem to realize that intruders are kept out of their property surrounded by walls. ...;)
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Wow so there os a lawsuit against Trump using his veto power to go against congress to get his emergency money by the state of California. He wont be able to pass it through congress because both Republicans and Democrats will vote it down, people are trying to pass the law so he wont be able to do that.

A big bunch of people who are being thrown out of their houses on the street and have no where to live if the wall gets built are taking Trump to court which has to be done with before he is allowed to actually build, so if he gets to build it, could be 5 years from now LOL.

There are actually a bunch of others trying use the courts to vote down the wall. Looks like the whole world is against trumps wall except Pence and his followers wow!

Sense Trump promised y'all a wall built way earlier then now wonder what you ll think about the wall that never get built LOL!
People build houses on a national border?

Those surveyors ought to be fired!
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
Wow so there os a lawsuit against Trump using his veto power to go against congress to get his emergency money by the state of California. He wont be able to pass it through congress because both Republicans and Democrats will vote it down, people are trying to pass the law so he wont be able to do that.

A big bunch of people who are being thrown out of their houses on the street and have no where to live if the wall gets built are taking Trump to court which has to be done with before he is allowed to actually build, so if he gets to build it, could be 5 years from now LOL.

There are actually a bunch of others trying use the courts to vote down the wall. Looks like the whole world is against trumps wall except Pence and his followers wow!

Sense Trump promised y'all a wall built way earlier then now wonder what you ll think about the wall that never get built LOL!

Would you be ok with a border patrol that was 100% effective and no need of wall?

Or do you prefer to have a way for people to slip through the border?
 
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Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Most border patrol agents are in favor of the Wall. Border Patrol agents back Trump wall, survey finds
And most of us citizens in the border states, as well as law enforcement, don't perceive any crisis.
Many millionaires seem to realize that intruders are kept out of their property surrounded by walls. ...;)
And most reasonable people would be concerned about it only if these "intruders" posed a problem.
If, as the economists say, the intruders were a positive benefit, they might even encourage them.
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
but the SCOTUS will ultimately likely decide the fate of expanded border security in order to prevent harmful narcotics and criminals from entering our nation between or at legal ports of entry along the U.S.-Mexico border .
If they decide anything (and it's a pretty big if because these cases really don't go that far) it will be if there is sufficient reason to confiscate their land under eminent domain. It won't look good that about half of illegal immigrants overstayed their visa and as a group they aren't committing much crime. They simply won't look at it as an issue of "border security to prevent narcotics and criminals from coming in." They will have to look at it strictly by what is presented, and any court cases are likely to revolve around imminent domain.
 
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