So the devil walks into a bar

Grammerllama said:

The Orville

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Another fan. Welcome!

Unveiled Artist said:

Oh. You gonna have fun here. They always fight over food.

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Good one ^ above ^ because I suppose people will even fight over what Jesus said at John 4:34 that his food was to do his Father's will or purpose for him.
We are Not to labor for perishable food, but ' spiritual ' food leading to everlasting life as per Jesus at John 6:27-29.

URAVIP2ME said:

Good one ^ above ^ because I suppose people will even fight over what Jesus said at John 4:34 that his food was to do his Father's will or purpose for him.
We are Not to labor for perishable food, but ' spiritual ' food leading to everlasting life as per Jesus at John 6:27-29.

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"Spiritual Nutrition transcends all cultural borders. It is a part of the original spiritual teachings in every country in the world; in every faith all the way back to the ancient Essenes and the wisdom of the Rishis masters of India, regardless of our creed or culture. It was given to all of us as a tool, a step on the path to Enlightenment." ~ Shantree Kacera

We learn about spiritual nourishment from different sources. However, I think they meant sweets and chocolate.

So the devil walks into a bar

The Bar Tender ask, "What can I serve you?"

"I'll have a bloody Mary and Angel Food Cake."

Revoltingest said:

A Jew, a Catholic, & a Muslim walk into a bar, & say....
"Did you hear the one about us?"

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The Devil said, "We're serving Apple pie and 6,000 year old apple cider."

Oh jesus I'm not realizing what I got myself into.

Brickjectivity said:

All in a span of 3 years? We have a lot of lifelong practitioners of all of those points in the spectrum. I curious why blow past them all so quickly?

You are welcome, but (in my opinion) this is the wrong forum for finding out what your religion should be. This one is geared towards getting people in different religions to converse. You might find something that interests you though, and we have got some channels for seeking. We don't allow preaching, and we don't really have the means to educate someone about religions. We allow some limited debate and discussion, and that's about it. I think only a handful of people have converted to anything during my six years here, and that was their own doing not due to any program we were running.

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The ending was just a quick little quip. Would be awfully convenient, though. I got a general idea that this place was just a place for people to express their own faiths and have a fun debate here and there, so I don't have any big expectations about finding myself in his heavenly father's great graces by morning.

And onto your question. It's hard to explain really, but I don't question blowing through them because I feel no need for going back. I went soul searching through paganism shortly after I left the church. I should specify that it wasn't my choice to leave and I was more or less torn from it. It was me desperately trying to find a label and community that stuck as well as the church I was raised in for all my life up to that point. I didn't just go back because I felt betrayed by god, so I was stuck with flinging labels to the wall until one felt stable enough to identify as.

I was always Wiccan or Wiccan oriented until I just accepted Atheism. From there, I was just exploring pagan ideas that surrounded it. I did worship various deities during that time that all coincidently turned out to be associated with exactly the same things I was working through during that time. One of which happened to be Lucifer- hence my return to (atheistic) Satanism. They turned out to be mental constructs. Personifications of beings I felt could guide me to solutions. I felt powerless after leaving the church, so it was a logical next step for my subconscious to fling me onto another all-powerful being that hadn't done me wrong.

I hope that made sense.

lostwanderingsoul said:

If you are really looking for God, maybe you are looking in the wrong places. I doubt you will find Him in witchcraft and atheism.

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Well, that's where he' gonna find me, take it for leave it.

Unveiled Artist said:

You got me! What do you write? Which Star Trek?
I write mostly poetry and prose. I used to read a lot. I'm a Captain Kirk rookie.

Welcome

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I mainly write prose. Sci-fi and fantasy, really. I'm currently writing a book centered around an Illuminate-like figure. My favorite Star Trek series has to be DS9 (*gasp*), but I've watched through and enjoyed Next Generation and Voyager. I'm also watching Discovery as it's airing and I really love that.

Grammerllama said:

Oh jesus I'm not realizing what I got myself into.

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Haha.

Grammerllama said:

I mainly write prose. Sci-fi and fantasy, really. I'm currently writing a book centered around an Illuminate-like figure. My favorite Star Trek series has to be DS9 (*gasp*), but I've watched through and enjoyed Next Generation and Voyager. I'm also watching Discovery as it's airing and I really love that.

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Nice. I've always wanted to write a book ever since elementary school. Never got around to the discipline. Instead, I want to put my poems and prose together as a poetic-memoir of sorts.

Grammerllama said:

I hope that made sense.

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You know. My mother practiced witchcraft. I was always into magic all types entertainment and otherwise. Spirits in our home and all. Dropped it for medical reasons. Met a catholic friend, became catholic for some odd reason. Let seven years ago (three years there as an adult). Practiced Buddhism. Still have the beliefs but don't practiced. Found a home church I haven't been to in awhile. Came back the Unitarian Universalist Church. Told them I wanted to be part of their family. Will be there the rest of my life in one way or another.

All spiritual journeys are unique whether we find god, drop god, do the chacha, or fly to the moon. All natural. Don't let anyone tell you its not.

Unveiled Artist said:

You know. My mother practiced witchcraft. I was always into magic all types entertainment and otherwise. Spirits in our home and all. Dropped it for medical reasons. Met a catholic friend, became catholic for some odd reason. Let seven years ago (three years there as an adult). Practiced Buddhism. Still have the beliefs but don't practiced. Found a home church I haven't been to in awhile. Came back the Unitarian Universalist Church. Told them I wanted to be part of their family. Will be there the rest of my life in one way or another.

All spiritual journeys are unique whether we find god, drop god, do the chacha, or fly to the moon. All natural. Don't let anyone tell you its not.

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Thank you for your words, I'll take them to heart.

Unveiled Artist said:

Haha.



Nice. I've always wanted to write a book ever since elementary school. Never got around to the discipline. Instead, I want to put my poems and prose together as a poetic-memoir of sorts.

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I wish you luck with your writing!

Grammerllama said:

Hi everyone, I'm new.

My name is Viktor and I'm an Atheistic Satanist who's views mostly align with the Satanic Temple. I was raised in the not-so-best Christian church (ya' boy has been through two exorcisms) before leaving the church at around 13 because of family issues. I was an atheist for a good while before discovering Wicca and all that jazz. From there I jumped from Wicca to traditional witchcraft to the New Age to just about everything on the Pagan spectrum.

As I played hot potato with spirituality, I started to realize how much I take as metaphor instead of literal fact. All of it, really, was just metaphor to me. That's when I found out I was an atheist who likes the occult aesthetic and thinks a lot like a Satanist. So there's the tldr of my religious life and I'm still 16.

Why is a 16-year-old on a religious forum? I'm curious about the world and how people view it, so might as well do some soul searching on the way. I like thinking differently than how I do, hearing about other's experiences, etc etc. And hey, we all had to start somewhere, right?

Outside of the religious aspects- or lack thereof- of my life, I am a creative writing student in high school with aspirations of becoming an author. I'm an obsessive fan of Star Trek who also enjoys shows like The 100, Lucifer, The Orville, and Victoria. I am the DM for my group's D&D campaign, so there's some brief insight into my current mental state. In terms of music, I'm a fan of synthwave and heavy metal ('cause, you know, there's a lot of overlap there).

So there's my introduction. I can't wait to meet everyone on here and hopefully learn more about myself along the way. Heck, maybe I'll even find god.

Adios,
Viktor

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did you notice?.....I'm sure you did

your tv habits are spiritual

Thief said:

did you notice?.....I'm sure you did

your tv habits are spiritual

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Star Trek: a show about space and exploration with heavy atheist themes
The 100: a bunch of teens gets yoot to Earth to see if its survivable
Lucifer: you got me there but-
The Orville: HA!
Victoria: tells about the reign of Queen Victoria

I mean, you sure about that? But thanks for the welcome.

Grammerllama said:

Star Trek: a show about space and exploration with heavy atheist themes
The 100: a bunch of teens gets yoot to Earth to see if its survivable
Lucifer: you got me there but-
The Orville: HA!
Victoria: tells about the reign of Queen Victoria

I mean, you sure about that? But thanks for the welcome.

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oh yeah....I'm very sure

the ironic kick in the head.....the creator of Star Trek is said to be an atheist

but hey!.....one episode after another....
the captain and crew are faced with entities and powers beyond human

the humans tend to prevail....
but hey again....it's science fiction

Grammerllama said:

Hi everyone, I'm new.

My name is Viktor and I'm an Atheistic Satanist who's views mostly align with the Satanic Temple. I was raised in the not-so-best Christian church (ya' boy has been through two exorcisms) before leaving the church at around 13 because of family issues. I was an atheist for a good while before discovering Wicca and all that jazz. From there I jumped from Wicca to traditional witchcraft to the New Age to just about everything on the Pagan spectrum.

As I played hot potato with spirituality, I started to realize how much I take as metaphor instead of literal fact. All of it, really, was just metaphor to me. That's when I found out I was an atheist who likes the occult aesthetic and thinks a lot like a Satanist. So there's the tldr of my religious life and I'm still 16.

Why is a 16-year-old on a religious forum? I'm curious about the world and how people view it, so might as well do some soul searching on the way. I like thinking differently than how I do, hearing about other's experiences, etc etc. And hey, we all had to start somewhere, right?

Outside of the religious aspects- or lack thereof- of my life, I am a creative writing student in high school with aspirations of becoming an author. I'm an obsessive fan of Star Trek who also enjoys shows like The 100, Lucifer, The Orville, and Victoria. I am the DM for my group's D&D campaign, so there's some brief insight into my current mental state. In terms of music, I'm a fan of synthwave and heavy metal ('cause, you know, there's a lot of overlap there).

So there's my introduction. I can't wait to meet everyone on here and hopefully learn more about myself along the way. Heck, maybe I'll even find god.

Adios,
Viktor

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Hi Viktor, nicely written intro, its almost as though you enjoy writing ;-)

Welcome to RF, enjoy.

Thief said:

oh yeah....I'm very sure

the ironic kick in the head.....the creator of Star Trek is said to be an atheist

but hey!.....one episode after another....
the captain and crew are faced with entities and powers beyond human

the humans tend to prevail....
but hey again....it's science fiction

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I think you're mixing up TV writing with spirituality. Of course they would have to win or else the show is canceled. I am failing to see the spiritual side of good writing.

ChristineM said:

Hi Viktor, nicely written intro, its almost as though you enjoy writing ;-)

Welcome to RF, enjoy.

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Me? Enjoy writing? Hogwash.

Thanks for the welcome!

well...
Picard's

Grammerllama said:

I think you're mixing up TV writing with spirituality. Of course they would have to win or else the show is canceled. I am failing to see the spiritual side of good writing.

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well....
there's Picard and the Dowd
Picard and the Q

there's the original Star Trek opening episode
a freak accident empowers two of the crew with godlike abilities

Tralane.....the offspring of disembodied Voices

Tin Man....not a god per se
but the extreme play on mind to mind
is speculation of spirit to spirit 'oneness'

and so forth and so on

Thief said:

well...
Picard's

well....
there's Picard and the Dowd
Picard and the Q

there's the original Star Trek opening episode
a freak accident empowers two of the crew with godlike abilities

Tralane.....the offspring of disembodied Voices

Tin Man....not a god per se
but the extreme play on mind to mind
is speculation of spirit to spirit 'oneness'

and so forth and so on

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Once again, I'm not sure what you're getting at? Just because they are "beyond human" doesn't make them god or the like. They are just... well, not human! Star Trek was about exploring humanity through the exploration of the universe. It is a lot easier to identify and solve societal problems when you put those problems on other races.

And the original Star Trek episode? The one where Kirk gets stranded in an alien zoo? Or the one with the alien who loves salt?

There is such a thing as over-analyzing a piece, you know? Grabbing at straws to fit a narrative. It is nice to see a semblance of your beliefs in media, sure, but that doesn't mean it is about your beliefs. It's just a TV show.

Grammerllama said:

Once again, I'm not sure what you're getting at? Just because they are "beyond human" doesn't make them god or the like. They are just... well, not human! Star Trek was about exploring humanity through the exploration of the universe. It is a lot easier to identify and solve societal problems when you put those problems on other races.

And the original Star Trek episode? The one where Kirk gets stranded in an alien zoo? Or the one with the alien who loves salt?

There is such a thing as over-analyzing a piece, you know? Grabbing at straws to fit a narrative. It is nice to see a semblance of your beliefs in media, sure, but that doesn't mean it is about your beliefs. It's just a TV show.

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religion....which I have none...
is all about dealing with Something Greater

Star Trek is all about dealing with greater entities
without religion

Thief said:

religion....which I have none...
is all about dealing with Something Greater

Star Trek is all about dealing with greater entities
without religion

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Okay then how does this connect to religion/spirituality? Does every show, book, movie, etc with the same premise equal religion/spirituality? Because just about every media does. Dealing with "greater entities" is so vague. It could be used literally- like Star Trek or Pokemon- or figuratively- like stories that personify ideas like an addiction.

The phrasing "greater entities" is also very subjective. To someone it might be religious or spiritual, to another it could be metaphorical, or to someone else, it could reference every day "entities" like the government.

Also, in my opinion at least, "religious" and "spiritual" are the same things, just used in different contexts to denote something organized (ex: Christianity) and something more individualistic (ex: New Age). You still worship something- let it be yourself, "Something Greater," etc. etc.- using faith as your personal guide. Then again, I may be wrong.

And, as I said above, there is such a thing as overanalyzing content to fit a narrative.