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The Pope Admits ...

ajay0

ajay0

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Two years back I met an Indian Catholic nun while travelling in a train, who was working as a school teacher. I asked her about why there were no female Popes or Bishops even now, and she agreed with me that it was discriminatory.

I think it is high time we saw a female Pope and female bishops. This can be a sort of penance on the part of the Vatican for its shameful conduct as now admitted by the Pope. This can bring about the necessary constitutional changes and regulations needed to empower the nuns , so that this sort of diabolical stuff does not happen again.

That women are more than capable of leading, administering and teaching religion is proven by the example of the Prajapita Brahmakumaris, which is the only spiritual organization in the world led, administered and taught by women.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
On the at least somewhat brighter side of things, I think it's important to note that the numbers of such cases has dropped a great deal over recent years and the Church has adopted a no-tolerance policy that mandates getting involved with local and state police. Just about every Sunday over the last year our local church has said somethings on this, with no excuses, and this is on orders from the archdiocese, the Catholic bishops, and also the Vatican.

BTW, this has not been and is not just a Catholic problem, btw, as this is an issue that effects all religious bodies, and in most cases it's a "denial" and "cover-up" thingy.
 
IndigoChild5559

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Ellen Brown said:
I feel so sad for Catholic Church Members, and the Nuns. At least it is out in the open now and can be dealt with I hope. Perhaps the leaders in some other denominations will fear exposure and repent?

Pope says priests kept nuns as sex slaves
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It's been a year of shame in the Catholic Church. Yet when the truth is exposed? That's the only time that change can come. Oh don't get me wrong. I may be an optimist, but I'm a realist when it comes to the yetzer hara, evil inclination. Change is not going to come any time soon. But this is the best sign of hope for those that have suffered.

And as a realist, I should point out that the Catholic Church is NOT the only place these things happen. It's just the only place where they got CAUGHT that's big enough to make a long, long story in the media (which despises the RCC). The problem is not priests. The problem for sexual assault is (mostly) men.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
IndigoChild5559 said:
It's been a year of shame in the Catholic Church. Yet when the truth is exposed? That's the only time that change can come.
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Fortunately that has been happening as the rate of such accusations has sharply fallen off in recent years here in the States.

In our church paper every single weekend over the last couple of years there's a piece asking the congregation to report any such activities or suspicion of any such activities to both the church and civil authorities. It also is addressed quite often at the pulpit.
 
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whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
Ellen Brown said:
I feel so sad for Catholic Church Members, and the Nuns. At least it is out in the open now and can be dealt with I hope. Perhaps the leaders in some other denominations will fear exposure and repent?

Pope says priests kept nuns as sex slaves
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Very sad.

I favor having clergy being allowed to marry... then again I am protestant.
I don't see any prohibition in the Bible against clergy marrying and perhaps some of these
issues would be less frequent.

I do agree that the possibility of being publicly reported rather than kept under wraps may be a restraint and perhaps that's wise.
 
Ellen Brown

Ellen Brown

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whirlingmerc said:
Very sad.

I favor having clergy being allowed to marry... then again I am protestant.
I don't see any prohibition in the Bible against clergy marrying and perhaps some of these
issues would be less frequent.

I do agree that the possibility of being publicly reported rather than kept under wraps may be a restraint and perhaps that's wise.
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I am told that at first, in the early Catholic Church, the pastorate did marry, but the Pope stopped that to funnel more money to the Vatican ?
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Ellen Brown said:
I am told that at first, in the early Catholic Church, the pastorate did marry, but the Pope stopped that to funnel more money to the Vatican ?
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It was actually being done because all too many popes and bishops were hoarding money while working hand-in-hand with the kings, and then passing this wealth on to their kids.

Solution: no marriage, no kids (hopefully at least).
 
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whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
Ellen Brown said:
I am told that at first, in the early Catholic Church, the pastorate did marry, but the Pope stopped that to funnel more money to the Vatican ?
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Peter has a mother in law and so he was married. I believe in the early church it was optional whether a pastor married or not.

The motive for not having them marry? Not sure how it started. Could be as you say too costly to support a pastor and his family? But ironically there are married Catholic priests today. What happens is if an Episcopalian married priest becomes Catholic he is allowed to keep his wife !!!! fair enough I say

What God has joined together let no man separate! as Jesus said
 
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