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G-d instead of God

Do you think it matters whether one writes G-d or God from a religious point of view?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 24.0%
  • No

    Votes: 19 76.0%

  • Total voters
    25

Remté

Active Member
Here's a random article about why some people write G-d instead of God. I don't vouch for its accuracy - just showing it for reference. Feel free to show a different kind of a source or point out problems with this one.

The custom of substituting the word "God" with G-d in English is based on the traditional practice in Jewish law of giving God's Hebrew name a high degree of respect and reverence. Furthermore, when written or printed, it is forbidden to destroy or erase the name of God (and many of the stand-in names used to refer to God).

There is no prohibition in Jewish lawagainst writing out or erasing the word "God," which is English. However, many Jews have afforded the word "God" with the same level of respect as the Hebrew equivalents detailed below. Because of this, many Jews substitute "God" with "G-d" so that they can erase or dispose of the writing without showing disrespect to God. This is relevant especially in the digital age where, although writing God on the internet or computer is not considered a violation of any Jewish law, when one prints a document out and happens to throw it in the garbage, it would be a violation of the law. This is one reason most Torah-observant Jews will write G-D even when they aren't intending to print a document out because there is no way of knowing whether someone might eventually print the word out and deface or throw away the document.

Over the centuries the Hebrew name for God has accumulated many layers of tradition in Judaism. The Hebrew name for God, YHWH (in Hebrew spelled yud-hay-vav-hay or יהוה‎) and known as the Tetragrammaton, is never pronounced out loud in Judaism and is one of the ancient names of God. This name is also written as JHWH, which is where the word "JeHoVaH" in Christianity comes from.

Other sacred names for God include: Elohim (אלהים) and variations, including El (אל), Eloha, Elohai ("my God") and Elohaynu ("our God")El Shaddai (אל שדי): God AlmightyTzevaot (צבאות): Lord of Hosts According to Maimonides, any book that contains these names written in Hebrew is treated with reverence, and the name cannot be destroyed, erased, or effaced, and any books or writings containing the name cannot be thrown away (Mishnah Torah, Sefer Madda, Yesodei ha-Torah 6:2). Instead, these books are stored in a genizah, which is a special storage space sometimes found in a synagogue or other Jewish facility until they can be given a proper burial in a Jewish cemetery. This law applies to all seven of the ancient names of God.

Among many traditional Jews even the word "Adonai," meaning "My Lord" or "My God," is not spoken outside of prayer services. Because "Adonai" is so closely linked to the name of God, over time it has been accorded more and more reverence as well. Outside of prayer services, traditional Jews will replace "Adonai" with "HaShem" meaning "the Name" or some other way of referring to God without using "adonai." Furthermore, because YHWH and "Adonai" are not used casually, literally dozens of different ways to refer to God have developed in Judaism. Each name is linked to different conceptions of God's nature and aspects of the divine. For example, God can be referred to in Hebrew as "the Merciful One," "Master of the Universe," "the Creator," and "our King," among many other names
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Jewish Customs of Spelling "God"
What do you think of using this substitute? Do you use it? Do you think it's relevant? Does it bother you on one way or another? Do you know of another religion that has established a similar habit?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Here's a random article about why some people write G-d instead of God. I don't vouch for its accuracy - just showing it for reference. Feel free to show a different kind of a source or point out problems with this one.


What do you think of using this substitute? Do you use it? Do you think it's relevant? Does it bother you on one way or another? Do you know of another religion that has established a similar habit?

Maybe some people is afraid to say God ? and they can not mkae them self to write it the way it has always been written God.
Or maybe some people is afraid that since they do not belive in a God they can not say it or write it?
Honestly i do not know. But personally i say God and write God when speaking of them
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Here's a random article about why some people write G-d instead of God. I don't vouch for its accuracy - just showing it for reference. Feel free to show a different kind of a source or point out problems with this one.


What do you think of using this substitute? Do you use it? Do you think it's relevant? Does it bother you on one way or another? Do you know of another religion that has established a similar habit?
I think it is someone else’s superstition, and probably have enough of my own so not looking to take on any new ones.
Don’t use it.
Doesn’t bother me.
Don’t know of a similar habit in a different religion.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
Here's a random article about why some people write G-d instead of God. I don't vouch for its accuracy - just showing it for reference. Feel free to show a different kind of a source or point out problems with this one.
Just one thing. It's true that there are 7 Names of G-d that when written in Hebrew, we are required to handle carefully. It's not true that when written in English, we are required to have the same care. There's no problem with throwing out paper that the word G-d spelled out on it.
However, the idea is that we show reverence to G-d, to the extent that we even carefully handle material on which his Name is written. The extension of this idea, is that we should show some degree of reverence whenever we mention G-d in any language. So it became customary among some people to hyphenate the word. It's not required by any means. It's just a nice thing to do.
 

Remté

Active Member
It's not required by any means. It's just a nice thing to do.
I don't see it as a nice thing to do. Not that I think it's the opposite, rather I find the idea a bit confusing. After all we are asked to contemplate and to speak out about God. Why is it necessarily to be careful not to spell out the whole name?
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
It's just a nice thing to do.
It is certainly imagined by Jews to be a nice thing to do, but personally I prefer people to spell my name correctly, even if they eventually intend throwing away the paper.

So I would say if you believe it to be a nice thing to do then do it, but it’s not universally considered nice in all cultures.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
I don't see it as a nice thing to do. Not that I think it's the opposite, rather I find the idea a bit confusing. After all we are asked to contemplate and to speak out about God. Why is it necessarily to be careful not to spell out the whole name?
Contemplating and speaking about G-d doesn't really have anything to do with how you write it down. Actually, we (Jewish people) are not supposed to use our parents' names either. I haven't noticed that it's been an impediment towards speaking about them to other people at all.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
It is certainly imagined by Jews to be a nice thing to do, but personally I prefer people to spell my name correctly, even if they eventually intend throwing away the paper.

So I would say if you believe it to be a nice thing to do then do it, but it’s not universally considered nice in all cultures.
Well, we don't consider "G-d" to be G-d's Name, so I'm not sure the analogy is exactly appropriate. But, yes, I can see why in your culture you might not see it that way. In my culture, this is one of the ways we show respect even to other people: I don't say my parents' names and to a lesser extent, my rabbis' names either. And I certainly don't speak to them using their names. So it's natural for us to apply this principle to G-d.
 

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
I once had a friend who deliberately referred to her mom by her mom's name when she wasn't around her by way of spite, and it came through perfectly. I couldn't imagine using my parents' names like that it would seem terrible, and although I can see from both POVs I would feel uncomfortable not showing respect to G-d in some way or other in the fashion we do.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I don't see it as a nice thing to do. Not that I think it's the opposite, rather I find the idea a bit confusing. After all we are asked to contemplate and to speak out about God. Why is it necessarily to be careful not to spell out the whole name?

God is not gods name, it is derived from the 6th century AD germanic word 'gott'.

At most it is a nickname adopted in the early middle ages.

That said, i have spoken to Jewish people about this, it seems that all names of their creator are holy and as such, if written out in full can never be discarded, thrown away or destroyed. To write g-d is simple respect
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Here's a random article about why some people write G-d instead of God. I don't vouch for its accuracy - just showing it for reference. Feel free to show a different kind of a source or point out problems with this one.


What do you think of using this substitute? Do you use it? Do you think it's relevant? Does it bother you on one way or another? Do you know of another religion that has established a similar habit?

G-d to a jew is like God to many Americans and God (SWT or others).

If I do use god sometimes I would caps but for religious reasons.

I feel it's not relevant because what we write isn't representative of god what describe as god. It's just dots on a screen page. I hear Jews say they don't want the word god misused. I don't see that online but I can understand that if it were written. Still, written or typed, they're not "god" or any version of it, so...

It doesn't bother me. thats just how they speak.

Islam does and sometimes christians would say LORD type of thing but the latter, not all the time.
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Well, we don't consider "G-d" to be G-d's Name, so I'm not sure the analogy is exactly appropriate. But, yes, I can see why in your culture you might not see it that way. In my culture, this is one of the ways we show respect even to other people: I don't say my parents' names and to a lesser extent, my rabbis' names either. And I certainly don't speak to them using their names. So it's natural for us to apply this principle to G-d.

If god isn't said in judaism (hashem instead?) how does the word god mean anything if it is only spoken in a language other than english?

How does the word god mean anything other than within context in which it is used? (is it because of the context and not the actual word?)
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
If god isn't said in judaism (hashem instead?) how does the word god mean anything if it is only spoken in a language other than english?

How does the word god mean anything other than within context in which it is used? (is it because of the context and not the actual word?)
No, we use the word G-d when speaking to people in English. What we don't pronounce are 7 particular Hebrew Names except in prayer or study. One of them, the Tetragrammaton we don't pronounce even then and instead we substitute it for a certain other Name. So for instance, when we read the Tetragrammaon from a Torah scroll we'll read it as that other Name, while intending this Name.
But when we're engaged in mundane activities like talking to people, we'll either say G-d or HaShem or some other Hebrew or Aramaic phrases that refer to G-d.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
What do you think of using this substitute?

It's respectful towards the Abrahamic representation of G-d and those who believe in it.

Do you use it? Do you think it's relevant?

Yes to both.

Does it bother you on one way or another?

Only when I mess up and forget to use it when I should.

Do you know of another religion that has established a similar habit?

It's not an exact one-to-one parallel, but... ( and do I hope you will correct me and/or add more detail to this... )

In Islam, Muhammed is written Muhammed ( pbuh )?

Oh dear, this is showing my ignorance... but,

What about the practice of making a cross on a person's chest and then kissing their fingers when they say Jesus' name?
 
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Remté

Active Member
It's respectful towards the Abrahamic representation of G-d and those who believe in it.
I disagree. Looks like a limited tradition. Not at all to "Abrahamic God".
In Islam, Muhammed is written Muhammed ( pbuh )?
It can be, but Muslims don't all agree on whether it should be used. Some find offencive and/or unnecessary. Personally I find the abbreviation insufficient if the writer wants to write it at all. It seems they not only think it necessary and respectful but are then too lazy to write the whole of it.
What about the practice of making a cross on a person's chest and then kissing their fingers when they say Jesus' name?
Never seen this in real life or even heard of it. Except maybe in old movies. Making the cross at least for catholics is a prayer and/or part if it.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
I disagree. Looks like a limited tradition. Not at all to "Abrahamic God".
It can be, but Muslims don't all agree on whether it should be used. Some find offencive and/or unnecessary. Personally I find the abbreviation insufficient if the writer wants to write it at all. It seems they not only think it necessary and respectful but are then too lazy to write the whole of it.
Never seen this in real life or even heard of it. Except maybe in old movies. Making the cross at least for catholics is a prayer and/or part if it.

Thank you, all are good points.

Regarding a Catholic person crossing themselves while praying:

A Catholic person crosses themselves while in prayer because the act is potentially holy?

The practice of abbreviating G-d by Jewish people is because the act of writing is also potentially holy.

Granted, Not all Jewish people have that in mind when they are doing it. And granted some people who do it may get puffed up with self-importance when they do it. But the idea behind the practice comes from a good place.

The Jewish practice of abbreviating G-d demonstrates that in Judaism there is a level of holiness in the act of writing. Abbreviating G-d is proper and Judaism encourages the practice for all sorts of Jewish people: all genders, young people, old people, all professions, all levels of education. ( an uneducated person would not know how to write at all ).

This supports the idea that in Judaism almost all the actions a Jewish person needs to do during the day can be potentially a holy act. Almost all. And no Jewish person is left out from this.
 
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