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Jesus' Secret Name

exodus 3:14 was the only name to be used

Exod 3:14 KJV And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.

that is why you are to baptize in that name and a prophet was sent in that name.

John 5:43 KJV I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.


that is why you are not to take the Lord's name in vain.
Definitely don't want to take the Lord's name in vain.

Though, there are many names given to God after that. All describing the different aspects of God. The one found in the video, is a name that is universally not attributed to the owner, rather it is given to a mere object.

You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. (John 8:32)

In peace
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
This is one of the greatest conspiracies that most people believe!

If you can show me where the Bible is referred to as "The Word of God" in the Bible, then I will agree.

The video shows who the Word of God is referred to in the Bible, however.

I don't mean that the bible is CALLED the word of God, I mean
that to its supporters it IS the word of God.
Jesus is called "the word made flesh" but that's not his name!!!
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
Indeed. Every idle word will I must take account for. This is a very convicting thought.

Where is the cheap trick? Where is the secret? I am not concealing it nor saying you must do impossibly difficult things to know it.

Hit the link and watch the video, or see my responses to others on this post. Both will give you the answer. Whichever is most convenient for you, do.

In peace

Ah, I think I'll just ignore you. I don't play games with the Bible.
 
Ah, I think I'll just ignore you. I don't play games with the Bible.
Again. It is very difficult to narrow down these accusations. First it was, smoke and mirrors. Second it was, God didn't give me a revelation to conceal it from others. Finally, it's I'm playing games with the Bible.

All three of these saying of yours have no basis and have been touched on in my reply to you. I am just wanting to understand why there is so much push back on this topic?

In peace
 
I don't mean that the bible is CALLED the word of God, I mean
that to its supporters it IS the word of God.
Jesus is called "the word made flesh" but that's not his name!!!
Where did the supporters get the idea that the Bible is the Word of God? It can't be from the 66 books contained in the Bible because there are no scriptures to support this. So, where did they get this teaching if it is not taught from the scriptures of the Bible?

Have you watched the video? It shares a scripture that directly links Jesus to the name "word of God". It really is amazing how widespread a belief that the Bible is the Word of God. Something supernatural happened to get this false doctrine into every Christian church building in the world... and it isn't supernatural from God...
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
Where did the supporters get the idea that the Bible is the Word of God? It can't be from the 66 books contained in the Bible because there are no scriptures to support this. So, where did they get this teaching if it is not taught from the scriptures of the Bible?

Have you watched the video? It shares a scripture that directly links Jesus to the name "word of God". It really is amazing how widespread a belief that the Bible is the Word of God. Something supernatural happened to get this false doctrine into every Christian church building in the world... and it isn't supernatural from God...

God spoke through his messengers.
And in reading those messengers we believe that we
are reading the Word of God.
And the power of those messengers, both in what is
felt within, and the power of prophecy - tells you this
book is not like other books.
I love to read John's Gospel - John was the one who
Jesus loved the most. His account is so heart felt.
And I marvel at prophecy like Jacob gave to his son
Judah (the one who offered himself for his brother)
that there will be a Jewish nation with a law and
a monarchy of the tribe of Judah, but it will all end
with the coming of the Messiah.
These two examples to me are the Word of God
spoken through scripture.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Definitely don't want to take the Lord's name in vain.

Though, there are many names given to God after that. All describing the different aspects of God. The one found in the video, is a name that is universally not attributed to the owner, rather it is given to a mere object.

You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. (John 8:32)

In peace


Phil 2:9 Therefore, God elevated him to the place of highest honor and gave him the name above all other names,

that name, is the name that is in the foreheads as a seal

Revelation 14:1
And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.


christ is all and in all. jesus was the 1st born from the dead. he isn't the only one.
 
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God spoke through his messengers.
And in reading those messengers we believe that we
are reading the Word of God.
And the power of those messengers, both in what is
felt within, and the power of prophecy - tells you this
book is not like other books.
I love to read John's Gospel - John was the one who
Jesus loved the most. His account is so heart felt.
And I marvel at prophecy like Jacob gave to his son
Judah (the one who offered himself for his brother)
that there will be a Jewish nation with a law and
a monarchy of the tribe of Judah, but it will all end
with the coming of the Messiah.
These two examples to me are the Word of God
spoken through scripture.
God's messengers definitely brings God's words. That is what 'prophets' are suppose to do. However, no prophet in history has been given the term "word of God". Only one prophet. That is, Jesus (I understand he is more than a prophet).

This understanding will give more importance to the word's of Jesus, than it will to any other prophet that lived. That is one of the significant points in recognizing that Jesus alone IS the Word of God.

Saying the book, the Bible, is the Word of God is making the Bible equal to Jesus.

Total blasphemy.

In peace
 
Phil 2:9 Therefore, God elevated him to the place of highest honor and gave him the name above all other names,

that name, is the name that is in the foreheads as a seal

Revelation 14:1
And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.


christ is all and in all. jesus was the 1st born from the dead. he isn't the only one.
The web has many points, yet they all go to the same central area.

To bring a strand that isn't connected to the strand that the point is being touched on, will only cause the truth in that strand to get loss. First follow the strand until the end, then you will be able to move on to the one that follows.
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
God's messengers definitely brings God's words. That is what 'prophets' are suppose to do. However, no prophet in history has been given the term "word of God". Only one prophet. That is, Jesus (I understand he is more than a prophet).

This understanding will give more importance to the word's of Jesus, than it will to any other prophet that lived. That is one of the significant points in recognizing that Jesus alone IS the Word of God.

Saying the book, the Bible, is the Word of God is making the Bible equal to Jesus.

Total blasphemy.

In peace

The bible IS equal to Jesus because the bible IS Jesus.
In peace.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
The web has many points, yet they all go to the same central area.

To bring a strand that isn't connected to the strand that the point is being touched on, will only cause the truth in that strand to get loss. First follow the strand until the end, then you will be able to move on to the one that follows.

the word is the logos. the word, the logos, god, and christ are one. the word, the logos, god, christ, and those that are at one with god, are god realized. if we follow the logic, then nothing can come to be unless god says let there be and so it becomes.

the logos, the word was with God in the beginning. gods said let there be and so I AM. that is the name, the word of GOD. the logos is the thought. all flesh comes from the word, I AM. that is how god creates in genesis, by the word being uttered. there was nothing made that wasn't created from the logos, from christ; because christ is all and in all.



From the Corpus Hermeticum:
I. Poemandres, the Shepherd of Men
Know that what sees in thee and hears is the Lord's Word (Logos); but Mind is Father-God. Not separate are they the one from other; just in their union [rather] is it Life consists.


this is why jesus said: i am in the father and the father is in me. and why he said:


John 14:20
At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.
 
The bible IS equal to Jesus because the bible IS Jesus.
In peace.
Not sure where you got this doctrine from, but it will be worth questioning whether or not the bible saves you, or if Jesus saves you.

If they are the same then you have to agree that the Bible saves you...

In peace
 
the word is the logos. the word, the logos, god, and christ are one. the word, the logos, god, christ, and those that are at one with god, are god realized. if we follow the logic, then nothing can come to be unless god says let there be and so it becomes.

the logos, the word was with God in the beginning. gods said let there be and so I AM. that is the name, the word of GOD. the logos is the thought. all flesh comes from the word, I AM. that is how god creates in genesis, by the word being uttered. there was nothing made that wasn't created from the logos, from christ; because christ is all and in all.



From the Corpus Hermeticum:
I. Poemandres, the Shepherd of Men
Know that what sees in thee and hears is the Lord's Word (Logos); but Mind is Father-God. Not separate are they the one from other; just in their union [rather] is it Life consists.


this is why jesus said: i am in the father and the father is in me. and why he said:


John 14:20
At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.
Though one critical factor is missing: You can choose to separate yourself from God. John 15:2, "Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit."

Therefore, God isn't in all. He is only in those that choose him by bearing fruit. Does God want to be in all. of course! Sadly, not many of us choose God. He is there waiting. Patiently I might add.

Who is willing to take Him at His word (logos) and follow him?

In peace
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Though one critical factor is missing: You can choose to separate yourself from God. John 15:2, "Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit."

Therefore, God isn't in all. He is only in those that choose him by bearing fruit. Does God want to be in all. of course! Sadly, not many of us choose God. He is there waiting. Patiently I might add.

Who is willing to take Him at His word (logos) and follow him?

In peace


nothing can exist apart from god. god fills the heavens and earth, unless you're nullifying the bible you claim to live by.

Jeremiah 23:24
Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the Lord. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the Lord.

exodus 3:14 just reinforces that idea that god is everywhere and at all times. god isn't this, nor is it that. its all of it.


the believer choosing to define/delimit where god is and what god is, is just the believer trying to define god. reality isn't somewhere else. its here. its now. its the past, the present, and the future. it transcends time and space. there was nothing made that wasn't made of it john 1:3 agrees with exodus 3:14

whether as an atheist they reject the idea of the all-pervading, or omnipresent, says nothing about god, brahman. it says something about the believer. they do not know god.
 
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nothing can exist apart from god. god fills the heavens and earth, unless you're nullifying the bible you claim to live by.

Jeremiah 23:24
Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the Lord. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the Lord.

exodus 3:14 just reinforces that idea that god is everywhere and at all times. god isn't this, nor is it that. its all of it.


the believer choosing to define/delimit where god is and what god is, is just the believer trying to define god. reality isn't somewhere else. its here. its now. its the past, the present, and the future. it transcends time and space. there was nothing made that wasn't made of it john 1:3 agrees with exodus 3:14

whether as an atheist they reject the idea of the all-pervading, or omnipresent, says nothing about god, brahman. it says something about the believer. they do not know god.
Indeed God fills all his creation. The point that I made wasn't invalid, however. God is separate from sin. That is to say that God and sin aren't compatible. Why did Jesus say that God has forsaken him on the cross? Food for thought.

I don't deny the fact that God is everywhere, at the same time that God chooses to separate himself from those that choose not to abide in his branch.

Scriptures needs to line up with Jesus and his teachings. If Jesus taught that you can be cut and thrown away from God, then that is what is truth.

Just because Jesus said it doesn't make it true; Jesus said it because it is true.

In peace
 
I think this is all semantics.
I disagree. The importance of knowthing the difference between the two is due to the false doctrines that are born from people making the Bible equal to Jesus.

Jesus can say one thing, but other parts of the bible can 'seemingly' contradict Jesus; so if it is not clear that the final authority is Jesus and not the whole Bible, then we can read all passages in perspective to what Jesus taught.

For example, OT taught, "eye for an eye"; Jesus taught, "love your enemies". Which one do we choose? They both are found in the Bible and arguments can be made to support both sides, but which one holds more weight?

This is the importance of knowing the difference. If we don't get this right, then we are building our houses on sand (Matthew 7:24-26).

In peace
 
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