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Which Came First

MonkeyFire

Well-Known Member
That there can't be a egg without a chicken but the chicken can come from alwaysbefore (as opposed to everafter) in heaven. If that's not true it's a endless cycle of chicken and egg forever alpha and omega. No chicken no egg... no egg no chicken.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
The Spirit of mind and heart always existed and no supreme singular being of it ever existed.

Nature is of mind and heart. Eternally coexistant with the universe. Forever bound to its imperfections, separate but apart.

Spirit produces mind and heart wherever it can. The universe is the roots of a tree of life that once shed one can reach into the beyond. The flower starts as a seed, and transforms. All of life must transform from its universal seeds. Nature is an analogy to the spiritual.
 

Remté

Active Member
That there can't be a egg without a chicken but the chicken can come from alwaysbefore (as opposed to everafter) in heaven. If that's not true it's a endless cycle of chicken and egg forever alpha and omega. No chicken no egg... no egg no chicken.
But chicken evolved from some other animal. So the chicken egg certainly came after the chicken could be called a chicken. If it wasn't a chicken neither was it a chicken egg if there was no one there to decide that the baby inside will become a chicken in which case someone might call it a chicken egg, but not an egg of a chicken. What about the rooster?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
But chicken evolved from some other animal. So the chicken egg certainly came after the chicken could be called a chicken. If it wasn't a chicken neither was it a chicken egg if there was no one there to decide that the baby inside will become a chicken in which case someone might call it a chicken egg, but not an egg of a chicken. What about the rooster?
the spirit and the waters from genesis 1:1-3 is very reminiscent of an ovum and sperm scenario.
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
The question implies time as a linear concept. "First" may have no relevance to the question.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
The question implies time as a linear concept. "First" may have no relevance to the question.
thank you for the hint and clarification. unfortunately we sometimes need a reference point for association; especially when the ocular sense tell us that it is separate from us.


and i've wondered if the circuitous path is necessary, like rumi, before the dove returns to roost. the answer my friend is blowing in the spirit, the wind.


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all the world is a stage and wherever you go, the Lord is there. play on! play on!
 
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