God vs Lord God

in the ot we see just the term god in genesis 1 but then we are introduced to the lord god in genesis 2.

per chance was the lord god the creator of heaven and earth, or what some know as the creator god, the demi-urge? would it have come into being on the 1st day and with the light? thus lucifers association to light bringer and carnality?

but obviously something came before the light and lucifer?

LORD God in the OT is "The Lord of Hosts"? Psalms 84?

What's interesting here is that the Lord of Hosts is often spoken about in a military valence. However, Psalm 84 is all about a peaceful nurturing LORD.

edited so that Psalm 84 is now a link.

Fool said:

but obviously something came before the light and lucifer?

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allow me to point out....
prior to the formation of light......God
was God of the Darkness

Thief said:

allow me to point out....
prior to the formation of light......God
was God of the Darkness

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An alternate translation of KJV Exodus 20:18 :

"And the people stood afar off; but Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God was."

Sefaria Ref: Exodus 20:18

Strong's Hebrew: 6205. עֲרָפֶל (araphel) -- cloud, heavy cloud

Thief said:

allow me to point out....
prior to the formation of light......God
was God of the Darkness

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ok but we see that light comes from god. god was before the light, but understanding comes as light. so then lucifer, or the light bringer was associated with venus, the morning star. is jesus implying that he is only a reflection of the true light? is jesus the lord god that he associates as being the morning star and god is the source of his and everyone else's light?

dybmh said:

An alternate translation of KJV Exodus 20:18 :

"And the people stood afar off; but Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God was."

Sefaria Ref: Exodus 20:18

Strong's Hebrew: 6205. עֲרָפֶל (araphel) -- cloud, heavy cloud

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love in general is considered a mystery. another inference to this mystery, or darkness.

1Kgs 8:12-1Kgs 8:13 NIV Then Solomon said, “The Lord has said that he would dwell in a dark cloud; I have indeed built a magnificent temple for you, a place for you to dwell forever.”


cloud in this aspect can mean a thought and of course we know the body is considered a temple; so then a mind is enshrouded, entombed in a body. the corpus hermeticum likens it to the mind being shut up in a cave. when the bodies is deprived of outward sensation the consciousness turns inwards, involution.

example:

Revelation 6:14
The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.

here we see the lord coming and another too:


Revelation 1:7
“Look, he is coming with the clouds,” and “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him”; and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.” So shall it be! Amen.

Revelation 10:1
[ The Angel and the Little Scroll ] Then I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven. He was robed in a cloud, with a rainbow above his head; his face was like the sun, and his legs were like fiery pillars.

the inference to the rainbow can be understood in the first inference of setting the bow in a cloud.

Genesis 9:13

The same word used in 2 Samuel 22:10.

"He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness was under his feet. "

I'm not disagreeing with you, fool. I very much like your analogy of love as a mystery. Maybe love bridges the gap between material and Godliness?

dybmh said:

The same word used in 2 Samuel 22:10.

"He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness was under his feet. "

I'm not disagreeing with you, fool. I very much like your analogy of love as a mystery. Maybe love bridges the gap between material and Godliness?

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obviously there is an inference to the idea of power in thought.



Proverbs 4:23
Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it.


But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.


Luke 12:34
For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.


the heart is associated with the church, or energy center thyatira and evil; because desire comes from it. its also the only inference made to jezebel.

Deuteronomy 6:5? Potential for both good and evil?

Fool said:

ok but we see that light comes from god. god was before the light, but understanding comes as light. so then lucifer, or the light bringer was associated with venus, the morning star. is jesus implying that he is only a reflection of the true light? is jesus the lord god that he associates as being the morning star and god is the source of his and everyone else's light?

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all about?....who is who

there is dogma that some Persons have existed from the very beginning

but I have always insisted and posted ...Someone had to be First

He would be God .....Creator....and Lord
and there is only One ....Almighty

I have posted what happens if He speaks to His own Voice
He hears His own Echo

if He casts His image directly....He would be in more than one place at one time
and many people believe He is indeed....everywhere

but that's all fine and good until He got tired of talking to Himself

and casting a lesser image is like casting a shadow
it will follow you and mimic all motion
completely obedient
except for that one third of heaven that rebelled
(kinda like Peter Pan's shadow)

so here we are.....having freewill
and alleged to be in the image of God

as for Jesus.....He said of Himself
brother and fellow servant
He never wanted a crown on His head
and would get up and leave whenever the conversation went that way

dybmh said:

Deuteronomy 6:5? Potential for both good and evil?

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love does no evil and if self loves with their whole being, no evil will be done.

Fool said:

love does no evil and if self loves with their whole being, no evil will be done.

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Yes, agreed. I'm talking about the heart's potential.

Deuteronomy 30:17 supports this. I'm sure there are more.

dybmh said:

Yes, agreed. I'm talking about the heart's potential.

Deuteronomy 30:17 supports this. I'm sure there are more.

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OK, yes. understandably. given what the heart desires based on service to self or service to all as self.

as for matters of the heart.....

an unbridled heart is fickle