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proof of time

robtex

Veteran Member
Just real quick before I zip out of the office.....what proof is there that time exists. From the proof if it is disovered what proof is there that our current measurement of time is correct?

I have a couple of theories to spit out but no time at the moment.

I am asking cause I was wondering how much of time is qualifable and how much is belief and is the cycle of the sun turning the solar system moving equate to the notion of time or is time a man-made measurement that has no qualities beyond man himself.
 

jewscout

Religious Zionist
I think the only real measure of time that exists is the rising and setting of the sun and the seasons. Our concept of time, whether it be minutes, hours, days, months, or years are simply our own arbitrary way of creating structure in our life.
I mean why choose the supposed life and death of a palestinian jew as the marker for our concept of what year it is?
 

HelpMe

·´sociopathic meanderer`·
jewscout said:
I mean why choose the supposed life and death of a palestinian jew as the marker for our concept of what year it is?
i have no partiality towards the subject as it is not scriptural to mark the time by his birth(nor do i believe it was done accurately 600yrs later by year,month, or day[have you seen anyone explain how new years is not the same day as the man's fabricated birthday?]).but, why mark it by anything?and if you don't mark it, then by what standard do you record it?
 

lousyskater

Member
well, time isn't really a constant. the faster an object moves relative to another object, the slower "time" will flow for the object. yay for Einstein and Reletivity. :jiggy:
 

Ceridwen018

Well-Known Member
Time is certainly not a tangible thing. Much like motion, it requires reference points to 'exist.' For instance, if there was nothing in existence, or at least nothing moving, there would be nothing to reference the passing of time.
 

lousyskater

Member
Ceridwen018 said:
Time is certainly not a tangible thing. Much like motion, it requires reference points to 'exist.' For instance, if there was nothing in existence, or at least nothing moving, there would be nothing to reference the passing of time.
and yet another great part of Reletivity.
 

Faust

Active Member
Time is a product of linear thought. A goob book on linear thought is Godel Escher and Bach. Can't remember the Author. May not have spelled this right either.:eek:
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Author = Douglas Hofstadter. Good book.

Time is an abstract representation of a dimentional phenomonon which helps us negotiate a multidimentional world with a brain capable only of 3-D perception.

Like landing a plane in the dark by instruments only. The instruments don't give us a true and complete view of the reality surrounding the plane, but the numbers and little arrows allow a safe landing.

Special relativity posits that time is not a universal constant but a relative (subjective) phenomonon. The reality of time flies in the face of ordinary perception and commonsense.

Drawing ontological conclusions such as "creation requires a Creator," based on our subjective, abstract perception of this phenomonon, is absurd.
 
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Seyorni said:
Drawing ontological conclusions such as "creation requires a Creator," based on our subjective, abstract perception of this phenomonon, is absurd.
Well said Seyorni. Have a smiley. :)
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Time is relative until your run out of air while you are 120 ft. deep.

Then it becomes absurdly precious.

Time always appears abundant, even as it quietly runs out.

T-i-m-e is how your kids spell "love".
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
"Time is relative until you run out of air while you are 120 feet deep"

Are you still using tanks of compressed air, NetDoc? Have you tried rebreathers?
 

tumble_weed

Member
:/

I wonder if there are other "intelligent" beings on some other planet how they would measure time. More importantly I wonder if ever metric time would ever be implemented...however it seems almost impossible to implement if it was and would be very difficult to get used to...and probably have weird social implications...what would happen to weekends!!

hmm wait that went a bit off topic

anyway movement is proof that time exists
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Seyorni,

Rebreathers can be silent killers. You can be breathing with your lungs full and die from hypoxia. One moment you are swimming and the next you are dead. No struggle and no fear, just an immediate blackout from having no oxygen in your breathing gas.

However, I will be taking a rebreather class this February. :D With much fear and trepidation as I am not sure that I could ever trust them.
 

Faust

Active Member
I wonder if there are other "intelligent" beings on some other planet how they would measure time. More importantly I wonder if ever metric time would ever be implemented
Sorry, but could you explain metric time to me?:eek:
Am a making an obvious mistake or am I mearly ignorant of this system?
Faust
 

cardero

Citizen Mod
Robtex writes: I have a couple of theories to spit out but no time at the moment.
Jewscout writes: Our concept of time, whether it be minutes, hours, days, months, or years are simply our own arbitrary way of creating structure in our life.
Lightkeeper writes:I have always thought time was a man made concept. Man has a need to measure. the Eternal is timeless.
Though I wasn't aware of it at the time it was the editor of my book who was the one who brought it to my attention that whenever GOD spoke to me of time He never used human made constructs of seconds, minutes, hours, days or months. GOD spoke only of “moments”.

NetDoc writes: T-i-m-e is how your kids spell "love".


Very well put NetDoc.

 
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