How do You Feel about Nudity in Art?

Sunstone · Jan 28, 2019

How do you feel about nudity in art? Especially the visual arts -- painting, drawing, sculpture, etc?

Is non-erotic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring non-erotic nudity? Would you pose for a non-erotic nude?

Is erotic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring erotic nudity? Would you pose for an erotic nude?

Is pornographic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring pornographic nudity? Would you pose for a pornographic nude?

BONUS QUESTIONS: What is art? Are any of the above three categories NOT art? Why or why not?

Please Note: It has been my experience that, f you don't already know the differences between non-erotic, erotic, but non-pornographic, and pornographic nudity, a definition is not likely to help you.

Some works do cross-over from one category to another, or blur the lines between categories, but the main differences seem generally clear and obvious if you have a well enough developed aesthetic sense to see them. But if you don't have that aesthetic sense, no definition will be likely to help you, so please don't ask for one.

Having said that, it's also been my experience that examples can sometimes help. With that in mind:

As for pornographic nudes, you can find those anywhere -- no need to post one here.

Subduction Zone · Jan 28, 2019

Yes please.

Pornography has its place but I find even your "Non-erotic Nude"s to be more erotic than most porn.

Sunstone · Jan 28, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
Pornography has its place but I find even your "Non-erotic Nude"s to be more erotic than most porn.

We have similar tastes and/or experiences then.

Skwim · Jan 29, 2019

Sunstone said:
How do you feel about nudity in art? Especially the visual arts -- painting, drawing, sculpture, etc?

Having studied art in college, I can't but help but appreciate it.

Is non-erotic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring non-erotic nudity?

Is erotic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring erotic nudity?

Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

Is pornographic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring pornographic nudity?

Yes and yes.

BONUS QUESTIONS: What is art?

Oh no you don't, You're just pilfering a question from my old Art history 101 class. I don't have to answer that twice.

As for pornographic nudes, you can find those anywhere -- no need to post one here.

Yeah, I couldn't have bet good money you'd back out on this one. But good choices for the ones you have chosen, and how nice of you to post all females.

. . . . . I'm not really into dangle art.

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Sunstone · Jan 29, 2019

Skwim said:
...how nice of you to post all females.

Thanks for pointing that out. I just now corrected my mistake.

Unveiled Artist · Jan 29, 2019

Sunstone said:
How do you feel about nudity in art? Especially the visual arts -- painting, drawing, sculpture, etc?

Sunstone said:
Is non-erotic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring non-erotic nudity? Would you pose for a non-erotic nude?

Is erotic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring erotic nudity? Would you pose for an erotic nude?

Is pornographic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring pornographic nudity? Would you pose for a pornographic nude?

BONUS QUESTIONS: What is art? Are any of the above three categories NOT art? Why or why not?

Please Note: It has been my experience that, f you don't already know the differences between non-erotic, erotic, but non-pornographic, and pornographic nudity, a definition is not likely to help you.

Some works do cross-over from one category to another, or blur the lines between categories, but the main differences seem generally clear and obvious if you have a well enough developed aesthetic sense to see them. But if you don't have that aesthetic sense, no definition will be likely to help you, so please don't ask for one.

Having said that, it's also been my experience that examples can sometimes help. With that in mind:

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As for pornographic nudes, you can find those anywhere -- no need to post one here.

Nudity is a beautiful part of our sexuality and definitely is a work of art. It goes over the boundaries of landscapes and tea cups. Hits on a part of humanity that many cover up in black or hide in "pornographic shelves" because art from museums to how one has sex is taboo. Any form of sexual expression is beautiful. Just depends on your religion, background, and interest to how one sees what and why.

But, 1-3 yes. Here's something I came upon months ago.

Belen Francese Desnuda Bailando - Strip Dance

Art is beautiful in all its forms

Jumi · Jan 29, 2019

I'm not a big fan of it, but it's fine.

nPeace · Jan 29, 2019

Sunstone said:
How do you feel about nudity in art? Especially the visual arts -- painting, drawing, sculpture, etc?

Is non-erotic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring non-erotic nudity? Would you pose for a non-erotic nude?

Is erotic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring erotic nudity? Would you pose for an erotic nude?

Is pornographic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring pornographic nudity? Would you pose for a pornographic nude?

BONUS QUESTIONS: What is art? Are any of the above three categories NOT art? Why or why not?

Please Note: It has been my experience that, f you don't already know the differences between non-erotic, erotic, but non-pornographic, and pornographic nudity, a definition is not likely to help you.

Some works do cross-over from one category to another, or blur the lines between categories, but the main differences seem generally clear and obvious if you have a well enough developed aesthetic sense to see them. But if you don't have that aesthetic sense, no definition will be likely to help you, so please don't ask for one.

Having said that, it's also been my experience that examples can sometimes help. With that in mind:

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As for pornographic nudes, you can find those anywhere -- no need to post one here.

I love art.
However, since art has taken on a new appearance, I'd better start from your bonus questions.

What is art?
Some go with the flow - accept photography as art. Some don't.
I'm old fashioned.

So photography...? Um... No.
Photography is not creative imo.
Graphic art is creative. That's passes as art.

Art is a diverse range of human activities in creating visual, auditory or performing artifacts (artworks), expressing the author's imaginative, conceptual ideas, or technical skill, intended to be appreciated for their beauty or emotional power. In their most general form these activities include the production of works of art, the criticism of art, the study of the history of art, and the aesthetic dissemination of art.

The three classical branches of art are painting, sculpture and architecture. Music, theatre, film, dance, and other performing arts, as well as literature and other media such as interactive media, are included in a broader definition of the arts. Until the 17th century, art referred to any skill or mastery and was not differentiated from crafts or sciences. In modern usage after the 17th century, where aesthetic considerations are paramount, the fine arts are separated and distinguished from acquired skills in general, such as the decorative or applied arts.

Though the definition of what constitutes art is disputed and has changed over time, general descriptions mention an idea of imaginative or technical skill stemming from human agency and creation.

History of Photography as Fine Art
Nowadays, photography is considered an art form as valid as any other, and there are multiple museums and galleries exhibiting photographic work. However, it wasn't so easy at the beginning, when photography was first invented, and photographers had a hard time being considered artists.

So for me, i'm not impressed with the examples. Sorry?

Although, I think the female body is a beautiful work of art...

when it's kept in good shape and form.

Of course it is. Duh. The original was done by the greatest artist. God certainly knew what he was doing.

There just is no match.
So if one is going to be an artist, and be creative, more than a camera is needed, imo.

About nudity in art.
To all three questions, I say No.
Reason - Personally, nudity is not bad in itself, but because of our sinful nature - our fleshly thinking, I think it's not appropriate for public artwork.
That's me personally.

Question is... Where does one draw the line?
There was a controversy over nude paintings of adolescent girls in erotic poses.
There is controversy over exXxplicit nudity in art.

When do we cross the line, as to what is art?
The One Divide Between Porn and Art that Can Never Be Overcome
Can pornography be art? No, argues Alva Noë, because porn is an instrument with a certain function in mind (sexual arousal) and works of art are not instruments.

Is art pornography? :shrug:

Spirit of Light · Jan 29, 2019

I took art eduction in school, and know nudety is a part of this "art groups" ut personally i dont see a need for nudety in art. (just a personal view) What others want or downt want is not up to me.

Unguru · Jan 29, 2019

Throw out the art and I will be happy

xir · Jan 29, 2019

How do I feel about it? I consider it beautiful in its rawness/realness.
Is it appropriate/moral? Yes, as long as everyone involved and pictured is a consenting adult.
Would I pose? Yes, and I have posed for non-pornographic photography shots. My reservations about starring in pornographic movies are entirely due to pragmatic reasons - I think it would likely be an obstacle to pursuing the type of career I want, as I studied a field where many others are somewhat "conservative".

Electra · Jan 29, 2019

Very nice.

PureX · Jan 29, 2019

If something is not identifiable as being anything else, and yet has been made by a human, than it probably can be considered a work of art. It may not be an especially 'good' work of art, but it likely falls into that category of things. I say this because art has an intention, and although it very often borrows other intentions as part of it's means, those other intentions are NOT the reason the artwork was created. So, even though a work of art may be entertaining, or erotic, or political, or religious, or functional, or whatever else, if it really is a work of art, it will have a higher purpose then to simply be these other things. And that higher purpose is as an example of shared experience: as a means of sharing the artist's experience of being, with his/her fellow humans.

Vouthon · Jan 29, 2019

I found one of your female "non-erotic nudes" a turn on.

Either I am massively horny today or I must seriously question your definition of the 'non-erotic'!

I suppose it can be a subjective quality.

On the topic itself, non-erotic 'nudes' are suffused all over Catholic churches in the form of statues and Renaissance ceilings. Since Jesus was actually crucified naked on the cross (historically speaking), we have even have nude Christs from the medieval to early modern era, whether on the cross or resurrected afterwards in all his glory.

Below, these naked Jesuses span 6th century Byzantine Ravenna mosaics to 15th century Italian sculptures.

Santo_Spirito%2C_sagrestia%2C_crocifisso_di_michelangelo_04.JPG

And, for a bonus in the interests of gender parity, a naked St. Mary Magdalene from a medieval church (now in the Louvre):

I often think the line between 'non-erotic' and 'erotic' is a little hazy, tho, in certain places.

In terms of erotic nudes, I again have no problem morally. I think they can be beautiful, shapely and refined, as are all the ones you've cited in the OP.

Pornography, that I do not consider an art-form of high civilisation, or to be a worthwhile as a moral exercise. Eros is a wonderful thing but porn is just about cheap thrills and the lowest common denominator.

BTW Can you imagine what medieval/renaissance Muslims and Jews must have thought about Catholic churches? They aren't allowed to have any graven images (or depict any humans) in sacred spaces, let alone nude ones. Our concept of the 'holy' and what is befitting in a temple to the Lord are very different.

Dawnofhope · Jan 29, 2019

Unveiled Artist said:
Nudity is a beautiful part of our sexuality and definitely is a work of art. It goes over the boundaries of landscapes and tea cups. Hits on a part of humanity that many cover up in black or hide in "pornographic shelves" because art from museums to how one has sex is taboo. Any form of sexual expression is beautiful. Just depends on your religion, background, and interest to how one sees what and why.

But, 1-3 yes. Here's something I came upon months ago.

Belen Francese Desnuda Bailando - Strip Dance

Art is beautiful in all its forms

That must be the raunchiest video I’ve seen on RF ever.

Dawnofhope · Jan 29, 2019

Vouthon said:
I found one of your female "non-erotic nudes" a turn on.

Either I am massively horny today or I must seriously question your definition of the 'non-erotic'!

I think you have low libido. I found both female non-erotics...

Twilight Hue · Jan 29, 2019

Sunstone said:
How do you feel about nudity in art? Especially the visual arts -- painting, drawing, sculpture, etc?

Is non-erotic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring non-erotic nudity? Would you pose for a non-erotic nude?

Is erotic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring erotic nudity? Would you pose for an erotic nude?

Is pornographic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring pornographic nudity? Would you pose for a pornographic nude?

BONUS QUESTIONS: What is art? Are any of the above three categories NOT art? Why or why not?

Please Note: It has been my experience that, f you don't already know the differences between non-erotic, erotic, but non-pornographic, and pornographic nudity, a definition is not likely to help you.

Some works do cross-over from one category to another, or blur the lines between categories, but the main differences seem generally clear and obvious if you have a well enough developed aesthetic sense to see them. But if you don't have that aesthetic sense, no definition will be likely to help you, so please don't ask for one.

Having said that, it's also been my experience that examples can sometimes help. With that in mind:

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As for pornographic nudes, you can find those anywhere -- no need to post one here.

The best artistic nudity in photo format I've come across has always been in sepia or black and white with classic backgrounds including but not limited to foilage , very old buildings , entrance ways covered in Vines, stone patios or anything vintage really. With the right pose that conveys emotion the result is a truly spectacular piece of art in excellent taste.

ChristineM · Jan 29, 2019

Sunstone said:
How do you feel about nudity in art? Especially the visual arts -- painting, drawing, sculpture, etc?

Is non-erotic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring non-erotic nudity? Would you pose for a non-erotic nude?

Is erotic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring erotic nudity? Would you pose for an erotic nude?

Is pornographic nudity an appropriate subject for the artist? Is it moral for an artist to create works featuring pornographic nudity? Would you pose for a pornographic nude?

BONUS QUESTIONS: What is art? Are any of the above three categories NOT art? Why or why not?

Please Note: It has been my experience that, f you don't already know the differences between non-erotic, erotic, but non-pornographic, and pornographic nudity, a definition is not likely to help you.

Some works do cross-over from one category to another, or blur the lines between categories, but the main differences seem generally clear and obvious if you have a well enough developed aesthetic sense to see them. But if you don't have that aesthetic sense, no definition will be likely to help you, so please don't ask for one.

Having said that, it's also been my experience that examples can sometimes help. With that in mind:

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As for pornographic nudes, you can find those anywhere -- no need to post one here.

The human body, in all its shapes and sizes is beautiful.

My view is anything i consider beautiful is moral however i am pretty certain some will disagree.

Beauty is art, it is also in the eye of the beholder.

Even the church accepted nudity in art at one time

Polymath257 · Jan 29, 2019

Yes, nudes can be some of the most beautiful pieces of art. As the joke goes, if we were meant to be naked, we'd be born that way.

Now, just as there is a huge difference in literature between, say, Umberto Eco and Harlequin romances, and that the latter doesn't qualify as 'good art' (I won't address whether it is art at all), Nudes can vary anywhere from the really good art of Bitesnich or Maplethorp all the way 'down' to really poor 'art' that is seen in pornography.

Yes, I have posed nude for art. My wife at the time was working as a nude model and she was asked if she minded posing with a man. After some discussion, we decided I'd be the man she posed with. I found posing to be quite meditative, although having my beautiful wife naked and laying across me was, um, distracting.....

ChristineM · Jan 29, 2019

I find some pornographic art can be wonderful. The work of Paolo Eleuteri Serpieri is outstanding in my view

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