Biblical Ages

Ellen Brown · Jan 22, 2019

WalterTrull said:
This is a fascinating subject to me. Lots of 900+ year olds mentioned in the bible. Other ancient texts seem to confirm the extended life spans. Fairly rapid changes reported post-flood. By Moses’ time things were said to be similar to now. I kinda think lifespan has to do with the function of here. Not sure what changed though. Some folks think the biblical ages are some sort of code and not real ages. Some think the reported ages just not true.

Any thoughts?

Genesis 6:3 (NIV): Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

I once read an article that there is sort of a biological "timer" in our Genes that causes them to begin to fall apart in the profoundly old. Can't remember more because I am entering into the realm of the profoundly "old".

Jollybear · Jan 22, 2019

Audie said:
Why does every Mormon lie to you?

I heard you were good at thinking.

Well with the mormons, there not lying, they simply believe there book. The book of mormon. But, in the case of the book of mormon, it gatheres alot of its information from the bible. In alot of places, verbatum. Practically plagurizing the bible.

However, alot of its history that it states took place in america, there is no archeological evidence to back any of the stories. Literally NOT ONE archeological find.

In the bibles case, alot, although not all, but allot of archeology has confirmed its history.

Of course 900 year old ages cannot be directly proved, but there are many independent sources corroborating those ages.

Its a strange thing, but interesting.

And you heard i was good at thinkin huh?

Thats good some think im good at that, lol

ecco · Jan 22, 2019

Jollybear said:
So if the bible, plus other ancient documents coroborate that people pre flood lived 900 so years, why dont you believe them?

What other people?

ecco · Jan 22, 2019

WalterTrull said:
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There apparently is some corroboration for that. I don't know this lady's bonafides, but she seems to think so.

If you don't know, then why bother posting a link to her site?

WalterTrull · Jan 22, 2019

Ellen Brown said:
I am entering into the realm of the profoundly "old".

Gotcha. Been there a few years before you. Fun huh?

WalterTrull · Jan 22, 2019

ecco said:
If you don't know, then why bother posting a link to her site?

Oh, I guess I figured you'd like to look her up and prove how misinformed I am.

Ellen Brown · Jan 22, 2019

WalterTrull said:
Gotcha. Been there a few years before you. Fun huh?

I'd suicide, but somehow I've found out that a few folk would be profoundly distressed if I did that. Go Figure.

ChristineM · Jan 22, 2019

The Hayfick limit determines the maximum time a living creature can live. This is the maximum number of times a cell can divide. It is a function of the telometric region of a DNA strand and DNA does not lie (ask any inmate convicted on DNA evidence).

This limit has never allowed humans to live for 900 years.

WalterTrull · Jan 22, 2019

Ellen Brown said:
I'd suicide, but somehow I've found out that a few folk would be profoundly distressed if I did that. Go Figure.

I've found that I'm learning stuff that I never thought about learning before. Mostly in the emotional area. Maybe I can take that with me.

Ellen Brown · Jan 22, 2019

ChristineM said:
The Hayfick limit determines the maximum time a living creature can live. This is the maximum number of times a cell can divide. It is a function of the telometric region of a DNA strand and DNA does not lie (ask any inmate convicted on DNA evidence).

This limit has never allowed humans to live for 900 years.

I don't know that, but I respect your right to your point of view.

Ellen Brown · Jan 22, 2019

WalterTrull said:
I've found that I'm learning stuff that I never thought about learning before. Mostly in the emotional area. Maybe I can take that with me.

Inshallah.

WalterTrull · Jan 22, 2019

ChristineM said:
The Hayfick limit determines the maximum time a living creature can live. This is the maximum number of times a cell can divide. It is a function of the telometric region of a DNA strand and DNA does not lie (ask any inmate convicted on DNA evidence).

This limit has never allowed humans to live for 900 years.

Sometimes the mist gets pretty dense.

Jollybear · Jan 22, 2019

ChristineM said:
The Hayfick limit determines the maximum time a living creature can live. This is the maximum number of times a cell can divide. It is a function of the telometric region of a DNA strand and DNA does not lie (ask any inmate convicted on DNA evidence).

This limit has never allowed humans to live for 900 years.

What about lobsters? There tolemeres make them live incredibly long lives. Theres no record that im aware of one dying of old age. Of course im not talking about anyone directly killing, cooking and eating them. But old age death, no record.

Jollybear · Jan 22, 2019

ecco said:
What other people?

Longevity myths - Wikipedia

Under ancient extreme longevity claims, it gives the list and mentions the ages. So, there are extra biblical sources that claim very long ages before the flood.

Sumarian king list is an example.

Ellen Brown · Jan 22, 2019

Jollybear said:
What about lobsters? There tolemeres make them live incredibly long lives. Theres no record that im aware of one dying of old age. Of course im not talking about anyone directly killing, cooking and eating them. But old age death, no record.

Homo Sapiens doesn't know what he does not know. That's why I try not to get drawn into things that can not be proven. The Biblical "age" thing just isn't an issue for me because none of us were there to witness it, and if someone was, they ain't talkin.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think in Biology we studied flatfish who can seemingly change gender at need. Yet Huuumans get all upset about one of ours impersonating a flatfish.

Whoa !!! Was just reading and found out a whole bunch of different fish change gender, with the female being the boss!

Jollybear · Jan 22, 2019

Ellen Brown said:
Homo Sapiens doesn't know what he does not know. That's why I try not to get drawn into things that can not be proven. The Biblical "age" thing just isn't an issue for me because none of us were there to witness it, and if someone was, they ain't talkin.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think in Biology we studied flatfish who can seemingly change gender at need. Yet Huuumans get all upset about one of ours impersonating a flatfish.

Whoa !!! Was just reading and found out a whole bunch of different fish change gender, with the female being the boss!

I didnt know some fish can change gender. Thats interesting.

Revoltingest · Jan 22, 2019

WalterTrull said:
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There apparently is some corroboration for that. I don't know this lady's bonafides, but she seems to think so.

Her final comment is essentially that God did it.

If human intervention can make an appreciable impact upon the aging process, to
be sure an omnipotent Creator has ultimate control over mankind’s biochemistry.

That's a less than convincing biology argument.

WalterTrull · Jan 22, 2019

Revoltingest said:
Her final comment is essentially that God did it.

That's a less than convincing biology argument.

Ah well, it was a shot.

Katzpur · Jan 22, 2019

Jollybear said:
Well with the mormons, there not lying, they simply believe there book. The book of mormon. But, in the case of the book of mormon, it gatheres alot of its information from the bible. In alot of places, verbatum. Practically plagurizing the bible.

I'm sure you've heard that somewhere, but it's not the case.

However, alot of its history that it states took place in america, there is no archeological evidence to back any of the stories. Literally NOT ONE archeological find.

Tell me one "archeological find" that would make any difference to you.

ecco · Jan 23, 2019

WalterTrull said:
Oh, I guess I figured you'd like to look her up and prove how misinformed I am.

Not necessary, I just read your posts.

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