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View of reincarnation

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
My best guess is that it's the drugs that is blocking your not getting an answer from God.

My second guess is that maybe you really don't want to know the answer for some reason.

Just my opinion, nothing more.
Or maybe He has determined that I am not worthy of esoteric knowledge and will leave that to more deserving students of other faiths than those practicing Existentialism.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
When we are on earth we are "blinded" by our own ego and attachments to human life.
we must cultivate mind and body to realize the truth behind who we are but there is no permanent soul in my understanding.

Purpose of life is to cultivate so we no longer need to suffer in physical body.we are spiritual beings in original life

Sorry for the late reply!

I suppose what I'm getting at is I don't see the point of this purpose of overcoming suffering through realisation over lifetimes if there is no individual soul. Why would the process exist or be necessary of there is no individual? Not to say the concept is wrong, but simply that I don't understand it from this Buddhist perspective (I come from a background or branch of Hinduism that teaches simultaneous Oneness and difference, meaning that there is a kind of eternal individualism).
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Sorry for the late reply!

I suppose what I'm getting at is I don't see the point of this purpose of overcoming suffering through realisation over lifetimes if there is no individual soul. Why would the process exist or be necessary of there is no individual? Not to say the concept is wrong, but simply that I don't understand it from this Buddhist perspective (I come from a background or branch of Hinduism that teaches simultaneous Oneness and difference, meaning that there is a kind of eternal individualism).

Thank you for your reply :)

Over the last week or so i have thought lot about how we answer this kind of questions, and one thing that hit me is that. many of us come from different background, different belief, different cultures. So when we answer we always answer out from our own understanding of our religious belief and culture.
So the way you think is a hindu based form of understanding a spiritual teaching and for me the buddhist concept of teaching is the "right" one. But this does not make any of them wrong, it has just been teached different understandig of same truth (different level of wisdom)

What i have come to realize is that when we cultivate the teaching this life, if we do not get fully enlighten we will have high enough inner wisdom that when we get reincarnated, we do get the chance to continue the cultivateion, but we need a master who can nudge us in the right direction at that point in the new life.
But where i am not sure yet, is how do wisdom transend from one life to an other, Honestly i do not know. or should i say i do not understand it yet.

I wish i could give you a clear answer, but honestly at this time i can not fully give the answer i want, because i have come to a point in my path my own understanding stops :) But i want to learn so i will study this part more and come back to you :)
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I respect your view on that. But i just wonder if this life is all there is what s the reason we get born in the first place? is it only coincidence that we have life?
I don't think that it makes sense to think of life as having a reason.

However, it is not so much coincidence as it is a conjunction of factors.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Thank you for your reply :)

Over the last week or so i have thought lot about how we answer this kind of questions, and one thing that hit me is that. many of us come from different background, different belief, different cultures. So when we answer we always answer out from our own understanding of our religious belief and culture.
So the way you think is a hindu based form of understanding a spiritual teaching and for me the buddhist concept of teaching is the "right" one. But this does not make any of them wrong, it has just been teached different understandig of same truth (different level of wisdom)

What i have come to realize is that when we cultivate the teaching this life, if we do not get fully enlighten we will have high enough inner wisdom that when we get reincarnated, we do get the chance to continue the cultivateion, but we need a master who can nudge us in the right direction at that point in the new life.
But where i am not sure yet, is how do wisdom transend from one life to an other, Honestly i do not know. or should i say i do not understand it yet.

I wish i could give you a clear answer, but honestly at this time i can not fully give the answer i want, because i have come to a point in my path my own understanding stops :) But i want to learn so i will study this part more and come back to you :)

I really appreciate the time you put into thinking about this and also for responding thoughtfully :)
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I really appreciate the time you put into thinking about this and also for responding thoughtfully :)

I learned a lot from the prosess and actuall happy i found something within buddhism that i do not fully understand, beause it means i have more to learn, more to find :)
So thank you too for the question :)
 

Ancient Soul

The Spiritual Universe
Or maybe He has determined that I am not worthy of esoteric knowledge and will leave that to more deserving students of other faiths than those practicing Existentialism.

Somehow I doubt that's the case.

I don't see any reason why God would stifle someone who is seeking spiritual understanding like you are.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Our parents procreated us, we are only an animal species, which is more evolved than the rest.
That's not the kind of world view that leads to historical works of compassion and virtue, great works of art and composition, or other idealistic causes.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
People have "memories" of past lives. Possibly they are real memories. But there are equally good explanations that don't even involve spiritual thinking.

For example, a person especially gifted with a creative imagination might envision (and from that create a false memory) something they piece together from things they've read, seen, watched on TV, etc. Because it is so spontaneous and vivid (at least at the time, even if it is but a glimpse) it can really feel like a memory.

Another example might be that we don't truly understand space and time. Quantum Field theory postulates that matter is simply accumulates along energy wavelengths. If that is true, then pieces of matter are connected across space by waves. What if waves transcended time as well as space? Kind of like you throw a stone in the pond, and waves continue to spread out even after the stone is gone. What if certain people could be better "antennae" for those waves than others?
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
Somehow I doubt that's the case.

I don't see any reason why God would stifle someone who is seeking spiritual understanding like you are.
All I know is that the struggle for existence is real for me; with or without God I have contend with that hourly.
 
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