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gospel of the kingdom, versus the false gospel of grace/cross?

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
What is the difference between the gospel of the kingdom, which is "repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand", and which requires repentance, confession of sins, and production of "good" fruit, for which non compliance is you shall be thrown into the "fire", pertaining to the "wrath to come" (Matthew 3), and the false gospel of grace, which is to believe what the demons believe, that Yeshua is the "Christ, the son of the living God", and you will be saved" (Matthew 16:16)? "Saved" from what?
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
What is the difference between the gospel of the kingdom, which is "repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand", and which requires repentance, confession of sins, and production of "good" fruit, for which non compliance is you shall be thrown into the "fire", pertaining to the "wrath to come" (Matthew 3), and the false gospel of grace, which is to believe what the demons believe, that Yeshua is the "Christ, the son of the living God", and you will be saved" (Matthew 16:16)? "Saved" from what?
Well, gee, could it be that one doesn't involve the beliefs of demons and the other does? :shrug:

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Earthling

David Henson
What is the difference between the gospel of the kingdom, which is "repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand", and which requires repentance, confession of sins, and production of "good" fruit, for which non compliance is you shall be thrown into the "fire", pertaining to the "wrath to come" (Matthew 3), and the false gospel of grace, which is to believe what the demons believe, that Yeshua is the "Christ, the son of the living God", and you will be saved" (Matthew 16:16)? "Saved" from what?

Saved from destruction. Both believe that being saved from destruction is part of the package, but the once saved always saved group believe that there is nothing you can do to prevent yourself from being saved once you are saved, which is incorrect as is evident by the many warnings in the Bible that you don't stumble, or that if you do you get back up and walk the correct path again.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
At least from idiots, and evil ones: Adolf Hitler, ....

Hitler was baptized a Christian during the era of the Kaiser/Caesar, and part of the 10 horns of the 8th head of the beast (Revelation 17), who hated and burned the "harlot", Judah/Jews.(Revelation 17:16). The "8th head of the beast was one of the 7 heads who was, and is not (Revelation 17:11). Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots and of the abominations of the earth, rode on the beast, and in this era, would be the "Christian" church riding on the 4th kingdom of Daniel, that being Caesar's Imperial Rome. As per Joel 2:31-32, one is "saved", "survives" from the "awesome day of the LORD", which would be the "great" "tribulation", whereas the persecution of Judah, would be part of the long term tribulation described in Matthew 24. The nations/Gentiles, are looking at what could be called a "complete destruction" (Jeremiah 30:11), during the period known as "Jacob's distress" (Jeremiah 3:7), which is in concert with "I will restore the fortunes of My people Israel and Judah" (Jeremiah 30:3).

Jeremiah 30:11, "For I will destroy completely all the nations where I have scattered you"
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Jeremiah 30:11, "For I will destroy completely all the nations where I have scattered you"
To me this quote doesn’t make any sense. Sounds like it’s saying for being a good neighbor and allowing Jews to migrate to my country God’s gonna destroy my nation.

Personally I think it shows the unjust nature of some of the people who wrote scriptures. Why wouldn’t God just completely destroy those who had enmity towards the Jews?!
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
To me this quote doesn’t make any sense. Sounds like it’s saying for being a good neighbor and allowing Jews to migrate to my country God’s gonna destroy my nation.

Personally I think it shows the unjust nature of some of the people who wrote scriptures. Why wouldn’t God just completely destroy those who had enmity towards the Jews?!

God is about justice. How you treat others is how you are to be treated. As for the coming Har-Magedon, known as the valley of judgment, in Joel 3:2, you will find the reasoning for the judgment of the nations in Joel 3:2-21. Not to say that there won't be survivors of the nations, but they will all come through the "great tribulation", and will have confess that "our fathers have inherited nothing but falsehood". And they will have to worship the "King"" in Jerusalem every year (Zechariah 14:16-17). As for enmity, all the nations of Daniel 2:35 had "enmity" against Judah/Jews, and all will be "crushed".
 
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