Cooky
Veteran Member
Can we just shoot every elected official in south and central America since they are incompetant fools, whose own citizens have to flee for their lives?
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Your opinions on the U.S. border wall
- Thread starter Cooky
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Can we just shoot every elected official in south and central America since they are incompetant fools, whose own citizens have to flee for their lives?
FlyingTeaPot
Irrational Rationalist. Educated Fool.
I am having a hard time having a real conversation with you. Every time I say something logical, you move the goalposts.
wandering peacefully
Which way to the woods?
I think we should be smart enough to figure out how to do both simultaneously. We certainly have enough money. We just don't have the will.
The details for solutions to the actual problems is what rhetoric prevents. All types of rhetoric but hey, it's more fun and certainly easier.
wandering peacefully
Which way to the woods?
What a ridiculous and useless idea. Try again.
youknowme
Whatever you want me to be.
You mean other human beings, right? We are humans, therefore "our own" are humans. . .
Cooky
Veteran Member
Can we set up City-State oasises scattered out throughout the South American continent, run by American politicians so as to set up properly functioning economic cities in a sea of chaos?
...Perhaps they would become such a boon to the regions that surround them, they could be used as a source of illumination to set a proper example and would fix the current problems over a span of maybe several decades?
Cooky
Veteran Member
If we're all just humans, then all governments are just governments too. So the U.S. government should be able to just walk in and take the wheel.
I’m also an American who believes in America first. I’ll gladly help others once the Americans are taken care of.
youknowme
Whatever you want me to be.
What does that even mean? As it just sounds like an excuse to be apathetic towards people in need.
Consider this:
What does it mean to be poor in America:
Air Conditioning, Cable TV, and an Xbox: What is Poverty in the United States Today?
Cooky
Veteran Member
What are your hope's, wide open borders? Anyone who wants, just come on in?
youknowme
Whatever you want me to be.
Hyperbolize much?
I’m not talking about the “poor” in America who enjoy air conditioning, cable TV and an Xbox. I’m talking about the homeless tent cities that exist in major cities all over the country. I’m talking about the homeless mentally ill people roaming the streets of these cities. I’m talking about the homeless alcoholics who are passed out in the street every morning. And, most importantly, I’m talking about the suffering children of these people.
Were you not aware such Americans existed?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Because most of the illegal drugs that these drug cartels process and sell end up being bought here in the U.S. by Americans. We are a large part of the problem and, therefore, I will argue that we have a moral responsibility to try and deal with this.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Translation: We will never help others.
Curious George
Veteran Member
Except there is plenty of resistance to help even the U.S. citizens.
wandering peacefully
Which way to the woods?
Now that sounds like a much better plan. But the corrupt government officials you wanted to eliminate probably wouldn't go for greedy American politicians running the Islands of opportunity. And private corporations sure can't be trusted to not be as corrupt as the governments. But somehow it needs to be done to help these people in their own countries so they don't need to flee. Youre idea is good but it would have to be a combination of humanitarian businesses and humanitarian politicians to run the cities with cooperation of the host countries to provide protection from the cartels and criminals.
Yeah, a pipe dream. But there must be greater minds that could come up with a workable plan. It is hard to believe there is no better idea than a 15th century wall which won't work. And it would take a lot more than 5 billion to build, maintain and guard "the wall". Heck, taxpayers will pay that in court costs in all of the eminent domain fights from property owners who don't want to give up their lands for a wall.
Steven Merten
Active Member
Hello Landon,
You are talking about Papal States. For a millennium and a half, the Church was the great protector of people living on land donated to the Pope. Citizens of Papal States were far better off than others, through the Dark Ages. Setting up a donated land, sovereign nation, amidst the secular nations, for people to freely travel to, would solve the anarchy and persecution in South America. 2 billion Christians tithing, to support the least of Christ's brothers in South America, would be the Church loving Jesus and Jesus caring for the poor.