spirit_of_dawn
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If that is how you define it then most people are spiritually dead most of the time.
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The Dead Know Nothing
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And only really smart people can see the Emperors wonderful new clothes.
being selfish isn't necessarily being smart, or enjoying the view.
this thread is about spiritual or mental states. not demons.
the conscious and unconscious operate the autonomic and somatic nervous system.
you have it backwards
... and that people could be 'spiritually dried up' like water can be dried up.
Seems to me that is why such people are likened to 'waters' at Revelation 17:1B,15.
And at Isaiah 57:20 that the wicked are like the restless sea......
when a person's illusion, delusions, are disturbed they sometimes become upset.
behold i come like a thief, blessed are they who stay awake and remains clothed, lest they go naked and they see their shame.
and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
Milton Platt
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Also,
relating to religion or religious belief.
"the tribe's spiritual leader"
synonyms: religious, sacred, divine, holy, nonsecular, church, ecclesiastical, faith-based, devotional
or, how about this:
The Supernatural and the Spiritual
bodiless, ethereal, formless, immaterial, incorporeal, insubstantial, nonmaterial,nonphysical, unbodied, unsubstantial
But there is nothing in the text of the quote or anywhere around it that would indicate you should take it any way other than literally.
Possession by a demon spirit puts the possessed in an unstable mental state. A good example would be the Liberal media and politicians. Obama would be a prime example of the how a unclean spirit leads a leader (Revelation 16:13-16). While the beast, and the false prophet of Revelation 16:13 are dead, their demon spirits live on, and are actively at work.
Revelation 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits that looked like frogs coming out of the mouths of the dragon, the beast, and the false prophet. 14These are demonic spirits that perform signs and go out to all the kings of the earth, to assemble them for battle on the great day of God, the Almighty.…
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The Sum of Awe
Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Neither does Jon Snow.
If a person dies, they are set free as there is no longer a person left, there is no longer a 'them' to hide behind. But they remain what they were in life; part of the bigger picture and, unfortunately, unaware of it.
Yes very much so.
We also can not tell the spiritual state of any othe soul.
Regards Tony
Does the term "spiritually dead" denote any real condition?
If so, what test will tell you whether any individual is "spiritually dead"?
And once again you throw in your ubiquitous staw man.
The conscious and unconscious work in the same way, physical processes driven by chemicals and neurones
Faithofchristian
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The dead know nothing, Who are the dead?
Also from mid-14c. as "character, disposition; way of thinking and feeling, state of mind; source of a human desire;" in Middle English freedom of spirit meant "freedom of choice."
even from the OT itself and the NT
spirit from OT meaning mind
spirit in regards to the will(spirit) of a person
the rational spirit, the power by which the human being feels, thinks, decides
it isn't the problem of a historical culture to write down their understanding of something by using the nomenclature, or even language, of that future culture. everyone is welcome to ignore the past and everyone's will to repeat it; along with the mistakes.
actually you started the strawman argument about "your" mind and chemicals in post
The Dead Know Nothing.
consciousness has been proven to exist without locality. its called the spooky action at a distance.
mentally close minded and having exacting and rigid absolutes. the only Absolute is that there is no absolutes in knowledge.
We are not discussing consciousness, which is not completely understood, so i would be grateful if you can provide citation for your claim consciousness exists without locality.
Spooky action at a distance has nothing to do with god magic but Einstein's misunderstanding of quantum physics. If you dont know what you are talking about i suggest you dont embarrass yourself
We were discussing the conscious and unconscious operation of the brain. But it seems you are floundering there and want to introduce quantum physics.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
maybe that old quote speaks more of awareness.....generally
the dead don't see....or respond
and laying in a grave cuts them off from all that is life
if the spirit follows the body into the grave
eternal darkness takes over
if heaven has mercy......the dead do not know
consciousness, mind itself, is a physical phenomena. in ancient times it was known by the nomenclature spirit.
no-hiding theorem. consciousness is nothing more a system of information. this personal information is nothing more than a wave on the ocean. the ocean contains all information and it is physical. it doesn't have an exact form because it is formless.
again the no-hiding theorem