You mean if you found yourself with me in a lifeboat you'd bail?
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Religious objections to food ?
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Audie
Veteran Member
Well, as a veggie I guess that would leave me out.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Mabe you mix the argument part of your question with that some religions choose to not eat meat? For me as a Buddhist killing animals for food is not something we should do since we see killing as a wrong action. But if the animal was dead and the meat was ok to eat, then i could eat it as long the animal was not killed for me to get protein. As you say meat in it self is energy and we do need energy, but the killing part should we (buddhists) not take part in, or let other do for us.
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Axe Elf
Prophet
A lot of guys like to eat pu... er... cats.
Audie
Veteran Member
Well, as a veggie I guess that would leave me out.
Oh. Two veggies, and not a rutabega in sight.
We could compromise, and eat flying fish I guess.
Seems to me Adam and Eve did Not eat meat products, but after Noah's day (and 'before' the Mosaic Law) God made provision for the eating of meats. Only flesh with it's blood you must Not eat as per Genesis 9:3-4.
So, 'before' the Constitution of the Mosaic Law, and 'during' the Mosaic Law, and also 'after' the Mosaic law the eating of blood is still prohibited - Leviticus 17:10-12; Acts of the Apostles 15:20,29; 21:25.
I agree. Peas are the devils food. You couldn't pay me to eat those.
Samantha Rinne
Resident Genderfluid Writer/Artist
Having looked over the Kashrut and then compared it to Halal, I would not say this.
The Kashrut is based (generally) on good health. Halal on the other hand, seems to be "because I said so" or "because Jews are doing it."
Judaism 101: Kashrut: Jewish Dietary Laws
Example:
* Jews don't eat worms and shellfish, because they eat dirt (and worms sometimes eat fecal matter)
* Jews don't eat fruit or veggies that have bugs crawling all over it, because bugs are likely to make you sick
* They don't eat dead animals because of rot/bacterial infection
* They don't eat milk and meat together because of cross contamination, and apparently it interferes with digestion.
*They don't eat rats, which carry filth
* They don't eat scavengers, since they eat dead things (see above)
* They don't eat eggs with blood spots, because these are fertile eggs.
* They also don't allow plates or utensils to get mixed with such things.
* They also watch that milk products don't become mixed with non-kosher milk products (cross-contaminations again), which leads to a nix on hard cheese, since much of rennet comes from sketchy sources.
* Slaughter must be blood drained with a sharp knife, and cause unconsciousness within two seconds.
None of these restrictions they can articulate, but it's clear God knows about them, because they are sensible and work together as a coherent whole.
Guess what? Most of those things are okay by Halal. They mainly just won't eat pork and alcohol, or restrictions Jews already have. Why? Because Muhammad says it's bad. Why is it bad? Because Muhammad says it's bad.
Halal vs Kosher - Difference and Comparison | Diffen
(The article is obviously Muslim bias because it tries to act like Halal has a bunch of restrictions Kosher doesn't have, leaving out that Jews also don't eat many insects, also don't eat dead bodies, also don't eat birds of prey, also don't eat animal blood, etc. while Kosher adds many more restrictions on things halal is cool with)
I won't eat halal meat (knowingly) because I saw a PETA video where the animal was fully conscious because unlike kosher which actually cuts the spinal cord, allowing the animal to bleed out while unconscious, halal leaves the spinal cord intact. The animal tried to kick. It tried to moo. It gulped while bleeding profusely, all while people refused to put it out of its misery. I can find a video, if you want. I won't eat it, not because of any dietary restrictions (God declared all food clean in Acts 10:9-16 ) but because it's very cruel.
RabbiO
הרב יונה בן זכריה
You expected authentic Mexican food at Chipotle?What about babies? the kid doesn't look Mexican though
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
What I hear is that many of them are delicious and nutritive, raw or cooked, though I have not eaten any. Jews, Muslims, Hindus (not all) have objections to various non-vegetrian items. Some Hindus avoid Garlic or onion. The Jain list of foods to be avoided includes many more item including tomatoes.
Cereals are a type of grass.
MJ Bailey
Member
First off it would be quite difficult to "eat" something if you are dead (cats included)The disliking of pork products was a contribution of the Biblical story of how Jesus Christ of Nazareth cast demons out of a person (or people)over a cliff. Blood and organs in which pertain to blood is scripturally forbidden as well as rabbits. However, I honestly believe that if either are an actual requirement of your dietary supplemental needs, it wouldn't be held against you (all things considered). Reflection of life and yourself does not give a conclusive relevance from what you eat any more than it does from how you breathe (Cannibalistic and Unnatural consummations dismissed of course).
(cats included)The disliking of pork products was a contribution of the Biblical story of how Jesus Christ of Nazareth cast demons out of a person (or people)over a cliff. Blood and organs in which pertain to blood is scripturally forbidden as well as rabbits. However, I honestly believe that if either are an actual requirement of your dietary supplemental needs, it wouldn't be held against you (all things considered). Reflection of life and yourself does not give a conclusive relevance from what you eat any more than it does from how you breathe (Cannibalistic and Unnatural consummations dismissed of course).
BilliardsBall
Veteran Member
Jesus Christ said what you eat passes through, but what leaves your heart into your life is what taints your spirituality. I wish some would remember this as they post at RF.
Segev Moran
Well-Known Member
In the Jewish religion eating Kosher is not only due to what you eat.
It is mostly a matter of the process of making the meat and what parts of it you eat.
Most of your post I agree with health reasoning wise. But I'm curious about this one as an unfertilized egg vs an egg with a blood spot won't really have any difference health impact wise.
In Islam the following meat is prohibited either by Quran or Islam Prophet Muhammed
1) legalized animal but God name was not mentioned on slaughtering it. these are goats, lambs, camels, beef but they become legal (Halal when God name is mentioned by saying (In the name of Allah). This is a simplest way to thank and praise Allah for his bounties). The animal should not be sick and need to be acquired legally for example not stolen/robbed. Any food stuff including plants acquired by illegal way or money is not halal. ( Any meat grown out of illegally acquired food, it deserves to be in Hell fire) said by Muhammed.
2) all Canines including beasts predators like lions, tigers etc …
3) Clawed bird predators like eagles and vultures
4) the pig
5) popular donkeys but Zebra's meat can be Halal if no law was broken.
1) legalized animal but God name was not mentioned on slaughtering it. these are goats, lambs, camels, beef but they become legal (Halal when God name is mentioned by saying (In the name of Allah). This is a simplest way to thank and praise Allah for his bounties). The animal should not be sick and need to be acquired legally for example not stolen/robbed. Any food stuff including plants acquired by illegal way or money is not halal. ( Any meat grown out of illegally acquired food, it deserves to be in Hell fire) said by Muhammed.
2) all Canines including beasts predators like lions, tigers etc …
3) Clawed bird predators like eagles and vultures
4) the pig
5) popular donkeys but Zebra's meat can be Halal if no law was broken.
I find the ' blood ' mentioned at Genesis 9:4 is talking about life's blood.
Even bled meats have a vascular residue, but that like the blood-spot egg is Not the life's blood.
In other words, one would Not eat an un-bled chicken.
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
Different "foods" affect you differently, and so may not be good for food.
They are not just mass and energy, but complex things which affect the complex body in various ways. They may all be made of the same thing -as all atoms of all elements are made of the same basic components, but they are arranged differently within atoms, and atoms are arranged differently in molecules.
Though some might take offense at what others eat -or classify them according to what they eat -biblically, it should just be a matter of an individual or group obeying God -whatever his reasons might be.
Not all realize that the biblical rules have changed a few times -and will change again. No meat in Eden, any meat afterward, only some meat when "the law" was given (technically still in effect as the "rise, kill, eat" dream did not actually concern food, etc.) -and again no meat after Christ returns (even animals will be changed so they do not eat each other).
Oddly, God's overall reason was to cause good, but allowing meat to be eaten was part of giving the creation over to futility in hope.
I can't say I know his exact reasoning, but the various changes in what was allowed had an effect on food availability (less available if less allowed), human health and human psychology.
We have experienced that which should not be in order to appreciate that which should be.