Why?

Spirit of Light · Dec 16, 2018

Why is so difficult for many people to accept others beliefs ?
Instead of asking Why do you believe this, or if what you say is correct why does "this" happen? and let them give you an aswer many tend to get angry and "attack" others belief.

It is ok to disagree with others, but do we need to mock them for what they believe in?

SalixIncendium · Dec 16, 2018

Why do you believe it is difficult for many people to accept the beliefs of others?

If what you say is correct, why does intolerance happen?

(Did I do it right?)

Sunstone · Dec 16, 2018

So long as someone's beliefs do me no harm, I believe they have a right to them. But having said that, nothing changes the fact that some beliefs -- although harmless -- are funny.

`mud · Dec 16, 2018

Why does life even exist ?
Why does one even exist ?
Why does `God` do it at all ?
Why does one give a crap ?

SalixIncendium · Dec 16, 2018

Amanaki said:
Why is so difficult for many people to accept others beliefs ?
Instead of asking Why do you believe this, or if what you say is correct why does "this" happen? and let them give you an aswer many tend to get angry and "attack" others belief.

It is ok to disagree with others, but do we need to mock them for what they believe in?

Okay, all seriousness aside...

I think it's a matter of perception. Something may appear to be an attack when it's not.

I tend to ask questions that are intended to make people think...to make them question what they believe...to find out if one is being true to oneself with what they believe or if they believe something just because someone told them to.

I happen to like to laugh, so I will often inject humor if not only for my own entertainment, but for the entertainment of others. Some will take exception to such queries, but most do not, especially those that ask questions if they do not completely understand the intent behind mine.

Spirit of Light · Dec 16, 2018

SalixIncendium said:
Why do you believe it is difficult for many people to accept the beliefs of others?

If what you say is correct, why does intolerance happen?

(Did I do it right?)

In my view many does not accept others belief, and i say so because of the way people respond, example they make a lot of critique of muslims, but is it Islam that is wrong or the human who do wrong deeds with in the Islamic path?

Intolerance is a sign of weakness, that someone feel they must attack others to gain upper hand. something that is not needed to do when one has no need of putting others down.

You ask in a nice way yes

Unveiled Artist · Dec 16, 2018

Amanaki said:
Why is so difficult for many people to accept others beliefs ?
Instead of asking Why do you believe this, or if what you say is correct why does "this" happen? and let them give you an aswer many tend to get angry and "attack" others belief.

It is ok to disagree with others, but do we need to mock them for what they believe in?

I honestly feel they've regurgitated arguments and probably had to defend themselves (as if threatened?) by many people. So, they associate others who they don't know in the same category as those that do.

For example, believer X talked to Y amount of atheists so other atheists must have the same line of thinking. It's in part generalization and already cause bias before the discussion starts.

Another thing is hiding behind scripture rather than addressing the questions presented. Person X And Y would comment only in scripture as if it is a shield and answer to all questions given to them.

A lot of older people are stuck in their ways. They see X people in this category and Y people in that. It makes it feel they are compromising their belief (out of fear? Uncomfortable? ill importance?). It's as if people are scared their beliefs will be knocked down just because they have conversational empathy.

They see what they want to see.

Fool · Dec 16, 2018

Amanaki said:
Why is so difficult for many people to accept others beliefs ?
Instead of asking Why do you believe this, or if what you say is correct why does "this" happen? and let them give you an aswer many tend to get angry and "attack" others belief.

It is ok to disagree with others, but do we need to mock them for what they believe in?

asking a question about a belief is not necessarily attacking someone. it's asking a question about a belief. the idea is not necessarily personal; unless the person asking or answering makes it personal.

a house is an idea and its result of a 3d terrestrial thing is its result. attacking a person's 3D house is definitely a personal thing.

if you were to build your house on a sandbar it would be remiss for someone not to warn you of your belief that it was a nice spot to build in a flood zone. but then again all things created are subject to becoming uncreated/destroyed.

Vinayaka · Dec 16, 2018

Amanaki said:
Why is so difficult for many people to accept others beliefs ?
Instead of asking Why do you believe this, or if what you say is correct why does "this" happen? and let them give you an aswer many tend to get angry and "attack" others belief.

It is ok to disagree with others, but do we need to mock them for what they believe in?

I see no reason to disagree with someone else's philosophy of life. But disagreeing with their actions on it is another matter. Sometimes the two might be intertwined, but the action part is what I'm looking at. I'll use proselytizing as an example. Although it is their belief that they have to proselytize, (duty) when it comes at me, or other people, I object, on the principle that no one individual should think their view is better. it's condescending by its very nature.

As far as attacking the belief system itself, I see it just as insecurity and immaturity. Not much different than two little boys arguing over whose Daddy is the strongest. If you're that insecure about your faith that you have to put other people down, it doesn't say much about your character.

Spirit of Light · Dec 16, 2018

Fool said:
asking a question about a belief is not necessarily attacking someone. it's asking a question about a belief. the idea is not necessarily personal; unless the person asking or answering makes it personal.

a house is an idea and its result of a 3d terrestrial thing is its result. attacking a person's 3D house is definitely a personal thing.

To ask a question is always good yes, But when someone telling directly, you are wrong because.... how can the person be sure he is not wrong him self when telling others they are wrong?

Estro Felino · Dec 16, 2018

It's because people care what others believe

I've never cared...I've that Romanesque attitude of carelessness non me ne frega n'cazzo

Vinayaka · Dec 16, 2018

Amanaki said:
To ask a question is always good yes, But when someone telling directly, you are wrong because.... how can the person be sure he is not wrong him self when telling others they are wrong?

Ego. I see no other reason why two people would stand there repetitively saying, "I'm right and you're wrong." From the neutral objective outside observing position it's so very childish. Especially when it's so easily overcome by viewing it as two separate POVs. POVs aren't right nor wrong, just POVs.

Fool · Dec 16, 2018

Amanaki said:
To ask a question is always good yes, But when someone telling directly, you are wrong because.... how can the person be sure he is not wrong him self when telling others they are wrong?

experience. belief without experience, without questioning, is simply fantasy.

a belief without interest has no value. its only worth is a fantasy. if the dreamer wants to live with their head in the clouds, their road leads to hell with beliefs. a thing must take root in the mind and then grow in reality. love is a force that is seen in action and not in some other place.

Jumi · Dec 16, 2018

Amanaki said:
It is ok to disagree with others, but do we need to mock them for what they believe in?

It often happens that the one who starts the mocking, will receive the same...

SalixIncendium · Dec 16, 2018

Amanaki said:
To ask a question is always good yes, But when someone telling directly, you are wrong because.... how can the person be sure he is not wrong him self when telling others they are wrong?

Experiential evidence. If you were to tell me that you believe SalixIncendium is the best dressed chatbot on the interwebz, I would argue that you are wrong because I have experiences existence that are not those of a chatbot, and @Sunstone's experience is that my fashion sense is appalling.

Willamena · Dec 16, 2018

Amanaki said:
Why is so difficult for many people to accept others beliefs ?
Instead of asking Why do you believe this, or if what you say is correct why does "this" happen? and let them give you an aswer many tend to get angry and "attack" others belief.

It is ok to disagree with others, but do we need to mock them for what they believe in?

It's not difficult so much as impossible to accept others beliefs if they do not agree with ones you already hold.

Having a belief is saying 'affirmative' to a statement about a way that the world is or is not. Asking why another person holds a belief, particularly one that defies your own belief about the world, is the same as saying, "What you say doesn't jive with the world as I know it."

Mocking is entirely unnecessary. Beliefs can be explored with respect and dignity left intact.

Spirit of Light · Dec 16, 2018

SalixIncendium said:
Experiential evidence. If you were to tell me that you believe SalixIncendium is the best dressed chatbot on the interwebz, I would argue that you are wrong because I have experiences existence that are not those of a chatbot, and @Sunstone's experience is that my fashion sense is appalling.

I have no idea what that means at all

I have no sense of fasion

PureX · Dec 16, 2018

Amanaki said:
Why is so difficult for many people to accept others beliefs ?
Instead of asking Why do you believe this, or if what you say is correct why does "this" happen? and let them give you an aswer many tend to get angry and "attack" others belief.

It is ok to disagree with others, but do we need to mock them for what they believe in?

An unrestrained ego is why so many of us behave this way. I blame it on the commercial advertising industry, shamelessly and dishonestly stroking our egos 24-7 in every medium available and in every corner of the world, just to try and sell us crap that we wouldn't otherwise want or need.

Willamena · Dec 16, 2018

Amanaki said:
To ask a question is always good yes, But when someone telling directly, you are wrong because.... how can the person be sure he is not wrong him self when telling others they are wrong?

'Believe' means a few things, but at its core it means precisely 'thinking that you are right.' The definition goes, 'accepting something as true.'

Vinayaka · Dec 16, 2018

Often it's not so much attacking, but just providing an alternative POV. So rather than saying "You're wrong," you just say, "here's an alternative theory on this." The attack part is so much in the underlying tone of things. Tact helps.

If you're riding somewhere with a friend, and you know he/she is going the wrong direction, surely its okay to point it out.

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