Was Christ Both Male And Female?

Axe Elf · Dec 7, 2018

Eddi said:
To which I would say that those who wrote the historical accounts may have been unaware of his true nature - the accounts may be unreliable with regard to that issue

And maybe Jesus was a shaved orangutan who had mastered speech, or maybe he was a visitor from the Andromeda galaxy--but in deference to Occam's Razor, the simplest explanation is the most likely one--Jesus was as he is described, a man.

Eddi said:
What prophet thing? Do tell

You know what a prophet is, right--one who is spiritually gifted with the ability to understand the divine will and purpose?

Did you see what is written under my name there?

That allows me the ability to assure you with even greater confidence than the mere weight of probability that Jesus was a man.

Eddi · Dec 7, 2018

Amanaki said:
Do you wish for that Jesus was intersexual?

On one hand, I don't think it makes any difference, so no - not really. It's his teachings and character that are important, and of course his sacrifice

But on the other, I think it would be cool if he was!

But I still maintain it is a possibility and I think it adds another dimension to his whole life story

I like him regardless of his sex but would be certainly be happy to learn that he was/is intersex

Spirit of Light · Dec 7, 2018

i might be wrong but it feels like you have a little obsession with this topic. As a Buddhist i see human as human no matter if it is man or woman.

Eddi · Dec 7, 2018

Axe Elf said:
You know what a prophet is, right--one who is spiritually gifted with the ability to understand the divine will and purpose?

Did you see what is written under my name there?

That allows me the ability to assure you with even greater confidence than the mere weight of probability that Jesus was a man.

OK, I thought you were making some point about Jesus's status as a prophet, I misunderstood

ChristineM · Dec 7, 2018

I was reliably informed on another thread that god has no DNA. Therefore no "Y" chromosome to pass on to his progeny.

This can only mean Jesus cold not possibly be "XY" (male) but "XX" (female) .

Isn't genetics cool?

Eddi · Dec 7, 2018

Amanaki said:
i might be wrong but it feels like you have a little obsession with this topic. As a Buddhist i see human as human no matter if it is man or woman.

I don't think I'm obsessed

I don't think making a thread about this on a forum dedicated to religion constitutes being obsessed!

And as I said before, I don't think it matters - or that we'll ever know

It's just possible, that's all I'm claiming

And makes for some I think interesting speculation

Axe Elf · Dec 7, 2018

ChristineM said:
I was reliably informed on another thread that god has no DNA. Therefore no "Y" chromosome to pass on to his progeny.

This can only mean Jesus cold not possibly be "XY" (male) but "XX" (female) .

Isn't genetics cool?

Yes, if Jesus had been produced by the mere physical process of parthenogenesis, He would have been XX. But we're talking about the Guy who created chromosomes in the first place--He could easily cook up a Y out of thin air in Mary's uterus. (Yes, I know there's no air in there, it's just a figure of speech.)

I've said it before; the miracle of Jesus' birth is not that He was born of a virgin--that happens a lot in lower species (although just the once that we know about in humans)--the miracle is that He was born a male!

ChristineM · Dec 7, 2018

Axe Elf said:
Yes, if Jesus had been produced by the mere physical process of parthenogenesis, He would have been XX. But we're talking about the Guy who created chromosomes in the first place--He could easily cook up a Y out of thin air in Mary's uterus. (Yes, I know there's no air in there, it's just a figure of speech.)

I've said it before; the miracle of Jesus' birth is not that He was born of a virgin--that happens a lot in lower species (although just the once that we know about in humans)--the miracle is that He was born a male!

Ahh yes, the old god magic ploy. Works every time

Axe Elf · Dec 7, 2018

ChristineM said:
Ahh yes, the old god magic ploy. Works every time

In this case, it was in the context you invoked, of Jesus being the magical offspring of God.

Prestor John · Dec 7, 2018

Eddi said:
I found this when researching my favourite historical figure, Jesus Christ:

Jesus may have been a hermaphrodite, claims academic

So… did Jesus of Nazareth have “hidden female physical features” and was therefore both male and female?

Does this even sound likely?

I think he had stereotypically feminine character traits, so maybe

It would also make him more representative of humanity

But we can never know for sure

And I don't think it's important anyway

And he obviously identified as male so we should probably respect that

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No. He was/is male.

ChristineM · Dec 7, 2018

Axe Elf said:
In this case, it was in the context you invoked, of Jesus being the magical offspring of God.

Nope, it was in the context of supposition that a god exists and excuses to fill in the gaps.

Axe Elf · Dec 7, 2018

ChristineM said:
Nope, it was in the context of supposition that a god exists and excuses to fill in the gaps.

No, it was in the context you invoked of Jesus being the magical offspring of God. You noted that since you had been told that God has no DNA, He would not be able to pass on the Y chromosome in the process of Jesus' conception.

In the context of that magical conception, I asserted that even more magic could have produced a Y chromosome out of thin air (or out of amniotic fluid, whatev).

syo · Dec 7, 2018

Eddi said:
o… did Jesus of Nazareth have “hidden female physical features” and was therefore both male and female?

Jesus was male, because male has the x chromosome with the y. If he was female he wouldn't have the y. the female side of him is hagia sophia of the god.

Eddi · Dec 7, 2018

syo said:
Jesus was male, because male has the x chromosome with the y. If he was female he wouldn't have the y. the female side of him is hagia sophia of the god.

How can we possibly know for sure which chromosomes he did or didn't have?

We have no way of telling

syo · Dec 7, 2018

Eddi said:
How can we possibly know for sure which chromosomes he did or didn't have?

We have no way of telling

the ecumenical council speaks that Jesus was a perfect man. the Holy Spirit guides the ecumenical council to not speak error.

ChristineM · Dec 7, 2018

Axe Elf said:
No, it was in the context you invoked of Jesus being the magical offspring of God. You noted that since you had been told that God has no DNA, He would not be able to pass on the Y chromosome in the process of Jesus' conception.

In the context of that magical conception, I asserted that even more magic could have produced a Y chromosome out of thin air (or out of amniotic fluid, whatev).

I invoked nothing. I reported what i had been told by a god believer and provided the factual solution to that claim.

I see nothing in the bible about chromosomes so can only assume you made it up to fill a gap

ChristineM · Dec 7, 2018

Eddi said:
How can we possibly know for sure which chromosomes he did or didn't have?

We have no way of telling

I have been told god has no dna so no chromosomes

I have also been told god created magic y chromosomes to make jesus a man

So who knows

Axe Elf · Dec 7, 2018

ChristineM said:
I invoked nothing. I reported what i had been told by a god believer and provided the factual solution to that claim.

I see nothing in the bible about chromosomes so can only assume you made it up to fill a gap

Ah, I see you don't know what "invoking a context" means, so I'll move on.

Have a good one!

ChristineM · Dec 7, 2018

Axe Elf said:
Ah, I see you don't know what "invoking a context" means, so I'll move on.

Have a good one!

And i see you dont know what reality means

Skwim · Dec 7, 2018

As a form of god there's no reason for Jesus to posses the sexual characteristics of either gender. In fact, the same could be said of god himself. He certainly has no use for genitalia or enlarged breasts, or a beard, or a belly button, a little piece of anatomy he's been shown to have.

So, while I guess Jesus could have been a hermaphrodite, I think it's far more likely he was born without any sex organs or sexual characteristics at all.

Of course this doesn't mean he wasn't flying under the radar when he appeared to others. After all, ya can't be frightening the town folk too much. Gotta be in some kind of workable guise, and how better than to present oneself as a male.

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