The big bang, something from nothing?

j1i · Dec 5, 2018

Subduction Zone said:
I am not restraining you at all. I am only pointing out the fact that there does not appear to be any evidence for a "who" that started the universe nor does there appear to be any need of one.

I love you brother and thank you for your attention and very sorry for the inconvenience
please forgive me

So I try to investigate the truth of the words of our ancestors, by science by asking how these objects exist in sequence

ChristineM · Dec 5, 2018

j1i said:
My scientific question is

Who make the mass before the Big Bang

That is not a scientific question, it is a religious question.

j1i said:
I see these scientists have 99% review capabilities only

A what? Please explain

j1i said:
Steve Hawking says there is no god and that there is a hole in the place and the place where the landfill

Steven Hawking was a scientist, he did not deal in make believe. Had there been scientific evidence of god he would have reviewed it.

j1i said:
I'm not naïve and I'm being played

My brother in law who is very ill with schizophrenia says exactly the same thing.

j1i said:
but I would like to point out that not all they say is true

You could look in a mirror on this point.

When you can provide evidence for god magic, please present it

You should be aware that learning is not about reinforcement of confirmation bias but about education.

Subduction Zone · Dec 5, 2018

j1i said:
I love you brother and thank you for your attention and very sorry for the inconvenience
please forgive me

So I try to investigate the truth of the words of our ancestors, by science by asking how these objects exist in sequence

if you keep ignoring your errors you will not be able to learn.

j1i · Dec 5, 2018

ChristineM said:
That is not a scientific question, it is a religious question.

A what? Please explain

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The words of scientists about space are just words that there are no grounds to prove scientifically and I mean the interpretation of complex phenomena and how the universe works
Some scientists tend to show his muscles in showing a broad understanding
They use imagination in theories that are far from logical at times
I know these are smart ways to inspire others in research and investigation
But in the end remain pure fantasies

I have a feeling that my heart has more certainty than all scientific sources
Because the pulse of my heart beats with the universe in harmony

The term science does not have to be sharply or exclusively feudal

There are many kinds of science
My father has the ability to read the future
He told me about lots of things that happened

But I do not believe in this I believe what my heart says

Science says that this food causes some of the negative reactions
While I eating it leaves a positive effect
Because my body cells are different from other cells of the body
This is called the limited science

List of withdrawn drugs - Wikipedia

List of withdrawn drugs

This reveals our scientific tools are miserable
Knowing that those who prepared these medicines are the giants of scientists in the field of medicine

Not everything that science says is true

My heart is the guide of the great to the truth
I do not need to be certified by someone who has a higher degree than me
I respect them and appreciate them but does not mean believing everything he says

may god bless you

amen

Subduction Zone · Dec 5, 2018

j1i said:
The words of scientists about space are just words that there are no grounds to prove scientifically and I mean the interpretation of complex phenomena and how the universe works
Some scientists tend to show his muscles in showing a broad understanding
They use imagination in theories that are far from logical at times
I know these are smart ways to inspire others in research and investigation
But in the end remain pure fantasies

I have a feeling that my heart has more certainty than all scientific sources
Because the pulse of my heart beats with the universe in harmony

The term science does not have to be sharply or exclusively feudal

There are many kinds of science
My father has the ability to read the future
He told me about lots of things that happened

But I do not believe in this I believe what my heart says

Science says that this food causes some of the negative reactions
While I eating it leaves a positive effect
Because my body cells are different from other cells of the body
This is called the limited science

List of withdrawn drugs - Wikipedia

List of withdrawn drugs

This reveals our scientific tools are miserable
Knowing that those who prepared these medicines are the giants of scientists in the field of medicine

Not everything that science says is true

My heart is the guide of the great to the truth
I do not need to be certified by someone who has a higher degree than me
I respect them and appreciate them but does not mean believing everything he says

may god bless you
amen

You appear to have no understanding of what science is. The scientific method is a way of solving problems. It is well defined and it appears to work very well. The computers that we are using testifies to that. Many of your claims about scientists are simply wrong. To help you understand this here is a simplified flow chart of the scientific method:

Instead of making claims about scientists why not ask questions with this in mind?

ChristineM · Dec 5, 2018

j1i said:
The words of scientists about space are just words that there are no grounds to prove scientifically and I mean the interpretation of complex phenomena and how the universe works
Some scientists tend to show his muscles in showing a broad understanding
They use imagination in theories that are far from logical at times
I know these are smart ways to inspire others in research and investigation
But in the end remain pure fantasies

I have a feeling that my heart has more certainty than all scientific sources
Because the pulse of my heart beats with the universe in harmony

The term science does not have to be sharply or exclusively feudal

There are many kinds of science
My father has the ability to read the future
He told me about lots of things that happened

But I do not believe in this I believe what my heart says

Science says that this food causes some of the negative reactions
While I eating it leaves a positive effect
Because my body cells are different from other cells of the body
This is called the limited science

List of withdrawn drugs - Wikipedia

List of withdrawn drugs

This reveals our scientific tools are miserable
Knowing that those who prepared these medicines are the giants of scientists in the field of medicine

Not everything that science says is true

My heart is the guide of the great to the truth
I do not need to be certified by someone who has a higher degree than me
I respect them and appreciate them but does not mean believing everything he says

may god bless you
amen

Ever hear of radio astronomy, spectral analysis, satellite telescopes, mathematics, observation? Just a few methods scientists KNOW about space. Sorry just because you dont want to believe evidence does not mean god dun it, it just means you are being deliberately ignorant.

I have a feeling you dont know and dont want to know meaning of evidence.

Reading the future is not a science, it is delusion

Yes, withdraw drugs because science has learned the dangers through research, observations, i.e. careful science

You claim you want to learn yet mock education. Its your life, enjoy yourself, i am done.

ecco · Dec 5, 2018

j1i said:
They do not know real sciences
They are like my grandmother telling me a fairy tales
I'm not naïve

Yes indeed, fairy tales. Like the ones your grandmother and your father told you about the man who walked into the desert and came back with a whole bunch of good stuff. The Big Fairy Tale. Stories from God.

You say you are not naïve. But you believe, if you live your life like a good Muslim, you will spend eternity in Allah's heaven. You believe, if you die like a good Muslim, you will get 72 virgins on your arrival in Allah's heaven.

You say you are not naïve, but you sure haven't thought about it too much. For how long will 72 virgins be 72 virgins? Three months? Six months? Maybe you can stretch it for a year. Then what? Then you will have to spend the rest of eternity with 72 angry, bitter, bored, jealous, fat, ugly, screechy women. Not just for 60 years. Not just for a million years. Not just for 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years. But for Eternity.

ecco · Dec 5, 2018

j1i said:
I read Michio Kaku's books on physics and also pay for Showtime channels like Discovery Science and also the H2 channel

I have seen programs by Morgan Freeman and the theories of Stephen Hawking who reject the existence of God in scientific channels

My scientific question is
Who make the mass before the Big Bang

If you have read books by Michio Kaku and watched scientific shows then your need to ask a question like "Who make the mass before the Big Bang" is very troubling. Perhaps you need to ask your guidance counselor if you can repeat the tenth grade.

ChristineM · Dec 5, 2018

ecco said:
Yes indeed, fairy tales. Like the ones your grandmother and your father told you about the man who walked into the desert and came back with a whole bunch of good stuff. The Big Fairy Tale. Stories from God.

You say you are not naïve. But you believe, if you live your life like a good Muslim, you will spend eternity in Allah's heaven. You believe, if you die like a good Muslim, you will get 72 virgins on your arrival in Allah's heaven.

You say you are not naïve, but you sure haven't thought about it too much. For how long will 72 virgins be 72 virgins? Three months? Six months? Maybe you can stretch it for a year. Then what? Then you will have to spend the rest of eternity with 72 angry, bitter, bored, jealous, fat, ugly, screechy women. Not just for 60 years. Not just for a million years. Not just for 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years. But for Eternity.

They are perpetual virgins... Seems someone never thought it through. 72 perpetual virgins giggling and texting their besties all day every day for eternity is one of my ideas of a hell. But im not muslim man, perhaps a death of celibacy surround by 72 untouchable women is a a cool way to spend their afterlife

ecco · Dec 5, 2018

ChristineM said:
They are perpetual virgins... Seems someone never thought it through. 72 perpetual virgins giggling and texting their besties all day every day for eternity is one of my ideas of a hell. But im not muslim man, perhaps a death of celibacy surround by 72 untouchable women is a a cool way to spend their afterlife

OR...

https://globalnation.inquirer.net/163694/raisins-not-virgins-quran-scholars-say

It has been said that Muslim martyrs will be rewarded with 72 virgins in heaven, or paradise. But a growing number of Quran scholars and Islamic theologians have contested its interpretation.

In the CNN special show “Why They Hate Us” in 2016, Canadian author and Quran scholar Irshad Manji said the word “virgin” in the Quran meant “raisin.”

“Nowhere in the Quran does it promise 72 virgins, 70 virgins, 48 virgins. … The Arabic word for ‘virgin’ has been mistranslated. The original [word] that was used in the Quran was the word for raisin, not virgin. In other words, that martyrs would get raisins in heaven, not virgins,” Manji said.

YIKES! That would be a helluva letdown.

ChristineM · Dec 5, 2018

ecco said:
OR...

https://globalnation.inquirer.net/163694/raisins-not-virgins-quran-scholars-say

It has been said that Muslim martyrs will be rewarded with 72 virgins in heaven, or paradise. But a growing number of Quran scholars and Islamic theologians have contested its interpretation.

In the CNN special show “Why They Hate Us” in 2016, Canadian author and Quran scholar Irshad Manji said the word “virgin” in the Quran meant “raisin.”

“Nowhere in the Quran does it promise 72 virgins, 70 virgins, 48 virgins. … The Arabic word for ‘virgin’ has been mistranslated. The original [word] that was used in the Quran was the word for raisin, not virgin. In other words, that martyrs would get raisins in heaven, not virgins,” Manji said.

YIKES! That would be a helluva letdown.

I prefer raisins than virgins.

I live in france where raisin is the word for grape. I am partial to muscat and 72 would make a nice desert.

The big bang, something from nothing?

j1i

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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.

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