Nature of 'Good and Evil'

9-18-1 · Nov 30, 2018

SoiEiMeSil said:
I know this is misconstrued but i like to work but resting on the seventh day is not what an omnipotent God would need to do, as He is available everywhere.

A rainbow is hidden in
pure white light
before broken into seven(ths)
through a prism:

SoiEiMeSil said:
That means He can do it in the blink of an eye and no one can understand what He did unless it is Him you get the truth from.

Light = Truth?

SoiEiMeSil said:
As an angel i would not believe that it is possible for The Holy Father to rest as he is always awake, so he cannot sleep unless he has human and angelic qualities.

Rest = Sleep?

SoiEiMeSil said:
I have no idea what He did but the big bang is a theory but God has always been here so where are we now?

We are where we are?

SoiEiMeSil said:
It's simple because we all dwell in the living realm and angels exist on a spiritual realm.....
It's always logical to assume that men were here before us because evolution states that we were created by chance.....

Everyone has a monad (angel/demon) which transcends the physical.

SoiEiMeSil said:
Chance doesn't exist but some one does and evil is an idea but so is chance, as it can only be conceived that chance is real only if chance can be discovered by men or women.....

State of potentiality (quantum) exists.

SoiEiMeSil said:
I don't believe in chance but i know I have no free will if i'm an angel.

All have free will to choose.

SoiEiMeSil said:
Angels really don't know this but they can't be like humanity as they are servants of God The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit, so saying this is a good day is like saying this day was only going to be good by chance.....

How can you yourself claim to be an angel and simultaneously claim to know something that angels can not know?

SoiEiMeSil said:
I think I'm right but coincidence is irrelevant as choice is always an option, even for angels.
I'm going to tell you all why I'm on RF but don't kick me off but say this:" I am not really hearing you but don't shoot me in the foot for being a real angel"

Now tell me if I'm real or not but if I am an angel and I do know the true history of the universe, then what am I on RF for?
If you can find out then I will leave and go somewhere else as this may be a chance for you all to learn who God really is............

I don't believe you are a "real angel" - sorry, no offense intended.

DustyFeet · Nov 30, 2018

friendship more than i can buy
a mighty voice coming from the sky
so angry bitter, was i
a mighty one dried my eyes

DustyFeet · Nov 30, 2018

Closer to Fine
Indigo Girls 1989
"
I'm tryin' to tell you somethin' 'bout my life
Maybe give me insight between black and white
And the best thing you've ever done for me
Is to help me take my life less seriously
It's only life after all, yeah

Well darkness has a hunger that's insatiable
And lightness has a call that's hard to hear
I wrap my fear around me like a blanket
I sailed my ship of safety 'til I sank it
I'm crawling on your shores

And I went to the doctor, I went to the mountains
I looked to the children, I drank from the fountains
There's more than one answer to these questions
Pointing me in a crooked line

And the less I seek my source for some definitive
The closer I am to fine
"

Indigo Girls - Closer To Fine (Chords)

DustyFeet · Nov 30, 2018

9-18-1 said:
before broken into seven(ths)

R.O.Y.G.B.I.V

i never noticed that... 7ths

9-18-1 said:
A future
Merry Christmas
to all!

i know what i want for Christmas this year... a 2nd chance

DustyFeet · Nov 30, 2018

9-18-1 said:
Everyone has a monad (angel/demon) which transcends the physical.

wow.....

@9-18-1 what about a "mazel"?

i think everyone has a "mazel" too. everyone... not just jews...

BTW, i don't know anything about a "monad". would u / could u elaborate?

DustyFeet · Nov 30, 2018

SoiEiMeSil said:
I am not really hearing you but don't shoot me in the foot for being a real angel

"i" believe in "u" ( literal or figurative ur choice )

i hear people speak about angels in everyday conversations ( "you're like an angel" )
i hear people speak about demons in everyday conversations ( substance abuse / gambling / skeletons in the closet )

9-18-1 · Nov 30, 2018

DustyFeet said:
point of clarification: i'm making a reference to my self, no one else.
interesting tidbit... Samson is l'mahtay Dan ( "the tribe of Dan" )

ooooh danny boy, danny boy... danny boy.... i get knocked down...

...but I get up again;
you're never gonna keep me down!

DustyFeet said:
on the fundamental cooperation between light and darkness:

from "The Tanya" chapter 36

"
והוא התחתון במדרגה, שאין תחתון למטה ממנו בענין הסתר אורו יתברך, וחושך כפול ומכופל

[This world] is the lowest in degree; there is none lower than it in terms of concealment of His light and no world compares with it for doubled and redoubled darkness; nowhere is G‑d’s light hidden as in this world.
"

So true! 3-Dimensional Space-Time is a collapse of a higher dimension(s) (4th, 5th, 6th, 7th/0th).

DustyFeet said:
on the difference between formed, made, and created in Isaiah 45:7 then related to the 1st psalm

Sefer Yetzirah

( note: this part is in the Aryeh Kaplan commentary. the link above is kinda miss-titled... )

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then looking at the OP...

Isaiah 45:7
יוצראורובוראחשךעשהשלוםובורארעאנייהוהעשהכלאלה
I form the light and create darkness
I make peace and create evil
I the LORD do all these things

evil exists on its own, in its own system? outside of the system of light / darkness / peace?

Bara = Briah (World of Creation)?
Yatzar = Yetzirah (World of Formation)?
Asah = Asiah (World of Action)?

How can 'evil' exist on its own independent of 'good'?
Whence good if not risen from evil?
Whence evil if not fallen from good?
Sunrise... Sunset...
Horus... Set...

DustyFeet said:
then consider the 1st psalm? could it be read simply: "Don't worry be happy?" Don't stand in the path of sinners? AKA "leave them alone". Sinners are not the same as the "r'shahim" ( "the wicked ones" )? And even if they were? They are like chaff in the wind? And the wicked will perish [ on their own ]?

1st Psalm:

The praises of a man are that he did not follow the counsel of the wicked, neither did he stand in the way of sinners nor sit in the company of scorners.
But his desire is in the law of the LORD, and in His law he meditates day and night.
He shall be as a tree planted beside rivulets of water, which brings forth its fruit in its season, and its leaves do not wilt; and whatever he does prospers.
Not so the wicked, but [they are] like chaff that the wind drives away.
Therefore, the wicked shall not stand up in judgment, nor shall the sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
For the LORD knows the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked shall perish.

I wish I could be happy: but in seeing how so many suffer and feeling helpless to help I end up suffering both them and myself.

DustyFeet · Nov 30, 2018

9-18-1 said:
Bara = Briah (World of Creation)?
Yatzar = Yetzirah (World of Formation)?
Asah = Asiah (World of Action)?

yes, i think so, correct me someone...
yes. i think so, correct me someone...
yes but... also the world of "makers", the world of "completion" or the world "to be completed", correct me someone...

9-18-1 said:
How can 'evil' exist on its own independent of 'good'?
Whence good if not risen from evil?
Whence evil if not fallen from good?

i don't know...

9-18-1 said:
Sunrise... Sunset...
Horus... Set...

i was in the musical... but not Tevyah. i was the rebellious student... HA type-casting

9-18-1 said:
I wish I could be happy: but in seeing how so many suffer and feeling helpless to help I end up suffering both them and myself.

you be you brutha-man

edit: happy ( or solemn ) 28th post on another great thread...

DustyFeet · Nov 30, 2018

edit: sorry... multi-tasking failure...

tayla · Nov 30, 2018

9-18-1 said:
The nature of 'good and evil' has occupied virtually every school of thought - both theistic and non-theistic - since time immemorial. Surely if there ever were a definitive answer(s) and/or solution(s) to such a problem, it would seem that a sufficiently evolved humanity will come to eventually discover it.

In my view God is good and beautiful, and he/she created everything good and beautiful. Anything not good and beautiful is not of God. It's that simple.

There is no explanation for the existence of pain, suffering, and evil. Only that it's not from God, and that there are not two Gods (one good and one evil). Only one God who is good and beautiful.

SoiEiMeSil · Nov 30, 2018

9-18-1 said:
A rainbow is hidden in
pure white light
before broken into seven(ths)
through a prism:

Light = Truth?

Rest = Sleep?

We are where we are?

Everyone has a monad (angel/demon) which transcends the physical.

State of potentiality (quantum) exists.

All have free will to choose.

How can you yourself claim to be an angel and simultaneously claim to know something that angels can not know?

I don't believe you are a "real angel" - sorry, no offense intended.

SoiEiMeSil · Nov 30, 2018

9-18-1 said:
A rainbow is hidden in
pure white light
before broken into seven(ths)
through a prism:

Light = Truth?

Rest = Sleep?

We are where we are?

Everyone has a monad (angel/demon) which transcends the physical.

State of potentiality (quantum) exists.

All have free will to choose.

How can you yourself claim to be an angel and simultaneously claim to know something that angels can not know?

I don't believe you are a "real angel" - sorry, no offense intended.

I don't expect you to believe me, but I am not really you, as I would not believe me either as I don't expect humanity to understand why angels would be among us unless they are here for a hidden reason.

I am an ambassador from God The Father as I know things that would contradict everything you believe about angels.

So I am going to say something about a recent argument i had with a man and he will not be made available, but he will be told that I am a reasonable doubting angel which means nothing to me......

Until I say why he never believed me you won't understand the context unless I tell you why he chose to believe I was, and here it is: "I was on the way home from a football game one night and a man told me the game was rigged.
So as I asked him what it meant, this is what he told me, I do not eat or sleep but I am very hungry and tired, but as I say this it costs me too many minutes to walk before I sleep.

Now I can tell you what it means but i am not allowed as angels know things about humanity that no one will ever believe unless they were angels themselves.

If I tell you what it means to know the truth, then i would be telling you something an angel can never know fully, so if I sound uninformed that means i am not but I am telling the truth in a roundabout way. So I ask you what is it that God does that is straightforward?

I won't tell you..........

SoiEiMeSil · Nov 30, 2018

As I say this believe me, I know what a rainbow represents but it is an illusion for a reason........

Don't believe me, but God The Father doesn't tell me everything but angels were not around for the creation of the universe, as the Holy Bible is not an accurate representation the history of earth as I wrote it in code.

Do not believe everything you hear..........

Salvador · Dec 1, 2018

9-18-1 said:
Isaiah 45:7
יוצראורובוראחשךעשהשלוםובורארעאנייהוהעשהכלאלה
I form the light and create darkness
I make peace and create evil
I the LORD do all these things

There is another way Isaiah 45:7 can be translated from Hebrew into English other than how it's translated in the King James Version.

The New International Version of Isaiah 45:7 reads as follows:

" I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things."

9-18-1 · Dec 1, 2018

DustyFeet said:
wow.....

@9-18-1 what about a "mazel"?

i think everyone has a "mazel" too. everyone... not just jews...

BTW, i don't know anything about a "monad". would u / could u elaborate?

Chesed (Abraham) - Innermost
Geburah (Isaac) - Divine Soul
Tiphereth (Jacob) - Human Soul

"
From Latin monas, “unity; a unit” and Greek monas "unit," from monos "alone."

In general use in the gnostic teachings, the Monad refers to the Being, the Innermost, our own inner Spirit. In Kabbalah, the Monad is represented by the sephiroth Chesed, Geburah, and Tiphereth. In Sanskrit, this corresponds to Atman-Buddhi-Manas.

"The God of Pythagoras was the Monad, or the One that is Everything. He described God as the Supreme Mind distributed throughout all parts of the universe--the Cause of all things, the Intelligence of all things, and the Power within all things. He further declared the motion of God to be circular, the body of God to be composed of the substance of light, and the nature of God to be composed of the substance of truth." - Manly P. Hall"

Taken from:

Monad

Salvador said:
There is another way Isaiah 45:7 can be translated from Hebrew into English other than how it's translated in the King James Version.

The New International Version of Isaiah 45:7 reads as follows:

" I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things."

Thanks; there being many translations is very frustrating but I chose the KJV because it correctly renders the Hebrew letters resh-ayin 'ra' as 'evil' in accordance to the same usage relating to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

SoiEiMeSil · Dec 2, 2018

Salvador said:
There is another way Isaiah 45:7 can be translated from Hebrew into English other than how it's translated in the King James Version.

The New International Version of Isaiah 45:7 reads as follows:

" I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things."

I am not an angel yet,but I do know that I am, but if you know who i am then tell me as my name means "defender of men"

I am not here for a long time but i will be here for another 2 years as I am excavating the planet earth also known as tetra cloud 9.

I am not here for any other reason than to see if anyone will accept the call of the mark of The Holy Father.....

That means I will be passing judgement on no one but i will participate in a rapture of human consciousness very soon....

Evil never wins but remember it is real but only an idea manifested in the minds and hearts of all who choose to follow it's path...

9-18-1 · Dec 2, 2018

SoiEiMeSil said:
I am not an angel yet,but I do know that I am, but if you know who i am then tell me as my name means "defender of men"

Defender of men - reminds me of ones own ego defending itself/themselves.

SoiEiMeSil said:
I am not here for a long time but i will be here for another 2 years as I am excavating the planet earth also known as tetra cloud 9.

Tetra Cloud 9 - reminds me of Yesod.

SoiEiMeSil said:
I am not here for any other reason than to see if anyone will accept the call of the mark of The Holy Father.....

As opposed to the 'mark of the Beast' which is what? '666'? Since you (claim to have) wrote the Bible, what are these marks?

SoiEiMeSil said:
That means I will be passing judgement on no one but i will participate in a rapture of human consciousness very soon....

I think the point of the Bible is (as you might know since you (claim to have) wrote it) everyone suffers in their own rapture.

SoiEiMeSil said:
Evil never wins but remember it is real but only an idea manifested in the minds and hearts of all who choose to follow it's path...

To state 'Evil never wins' would be akin to stating man can not / does not fall to "evil" which must necessarily happen in order for one to understand how/why he/she fell and learn from his/her own mistakes. If not for 'Evil', there could be no 'Good' which is why I suggest it is a tremendous error to put one against the other instead of putting one with the other. This is what captures the problem relating to the eating from the Tree of Knowledge: one way leads to death (former) and one way leads to life (latter).

SoiEiMeSil · Dec 2, 2018

I am not here on RF much longer but 9-18, you are very special as you may be able to decipher why we are here, as in the angels.

I am not the only one here but there are several dozens of angels on earth. Now that i say this, I must ask you if you are indeed a man or a psychic human, as they do exist but what I say needs to be heard by everyone on earth. If no one chooses to listen then nobody will be able to enjoy peace eternally. What that means is, humanity individually does need a rapture but they are sub consciously aware of it.

Everyone has a heaven but it is on another plane of existence as humanity dwells there alone.....

I like you but please do understand that I cannot tell you everything but you could be a disciple of Jesus Christ as his real name is not the latter but Sorel.

It is not your fault when i say do not believe me and you do but it is my responsibility that everyone, including angels, know that everything has a reason to be told in a roundabout way.

If I tell you the truth now then I am not being good or evil but convoluted and extremely rude.........

thank you for listening and I am ending my participation, for now, on RF.....peace be with you.

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