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Fool · Nov 25, 2018

Is it hell trying to get to heaven?

How will they know when they have arrived in heaven/hell; if they've never been in heaven or hell?

so is it heaven, hell, and earth? earth being like a purgatory/limbo before eternity? but then how is it eternity; if it has a beginning and an ending?

will someone tell them?

URAVIP2ME · Nov 25, 2018

Fool said:
Is it hell trying to get to heaven?
How will they know when they have arrived in heaven/hell; if they've never been in heaven or hell?
so is it heaven, hell, and earth? earth being like a purgatory/limbo before eternity? but then how is it eternity; if it has a beginning and an ending?
will someone tell them?

Everyone has trials. Satan challenges all of us according to Job 2:4-5.
Touch our 'flesh'.... ( loose physical health) and we would Not serve God.
It is God's spirit which draws those who are called to heavenly life.
The majority are called to become part of the humble meek people who will inherit ( Not Heaven) but inherit Earth.
Jesus taught 'biblical hell' is just the temporary stone-cold grave for the unconscious sleeping dead til Resurrection Day meaning Jesus' coming millennium-long day of governing over Earth in righteousness.- John 11:11-14.
Only those called to Heaven have a first or an earlier resurrection to Heaven as per Revelation 20:6.

Fool · Nov 26, 2018

URAVIP2ME said:
Everyone has trials. Satan challenges all of us according to Job 2:4-5.
Touch our 'flesh'.... ( loose physical health) and we would Not serve God.

heaven and hell are not unique to christianity.

URAVIP2ME said:
It is God's spirit which draws those who are called to heavenly life.

so what is the fruit of that Spirit; which draws?

URAVIP2ME said:
The majority are called to become part of the humble meek people who will inherit ( Not Heaven) but inherit Earth.
Jesus taught 'biblical hell' is just the temporary stone-cold grave for the unconscious sleeping dead til Resurrection Day meaning Jesus' coming millennium-long day of governing over Earth in righteousness.- John 11:11-14.
Only those called to Heaven have a first or an earlier resurrection to Heaven as per Revelation 20:6.

and the dwelling place of man; also becomes god's. love doesn't differentiate, it makes all things equal as I AM.

URAVIP2ME · Nov 26, 2018

Fool said:
heaven and hell are not unique to christianity.
so what is the fruit of that Spirit; which draws?
and the dwelling place of man; also becomes god's. love doesn't differentiate, it makes all things equal as I AM.

I am wondering what is with the upper-case letters I AM since that is Not in Scripture.
I find at Revelation 21:3 that the tent of God is with men....
To me does Not mean a literal dwelling for God on Earth, but as a tent covers or protects God covers and protects.
God's home location is Not Earth according to 1 Kings 8:39,49 but a heavenly zip code.

I think many know Heaven and Hell are Not unique to Christianity.
For that matter, what is taught as Hell in Christendom is from a non-biblical source just taught as being Scripture.
Non-biblical Hell is a never ending fire, whereas the Christian Hell is simply mankind's stone-cold temporary grave.
When KJV translated the word Gehenna as Hell-Fire that put the flames in biblical Hell.
Gehenna was just a garbage pit outside of Jerusalem where things were destroyed forever, Not burnt forever.
So, Gehenna is just symbolic for: destruction.
Destruction is what is a biblical teaching because as Psalms 92:7 says the wicked will be ' destroyed forever '.
We are told at 2 Peter 3:9 if we don't wish to ' perish ' (be destroyed) then we should repent.

As far as the spirit that draws, I find at Romans 8:14 it mentions those who are led by God's spirit.
At Romans 8:16 it says God's spirit itself bears witness with our spirit ( draws those called to heaven ).
God's spirit bore witness with Jesus' spirit at the time of Jesus baptism when the heavens where opened to him.
At Romans 8:17 it says about those who are joint-heirs with Christ " if " they suffer with Christ - Ephesians 3:6.
Ephesians 4:1-3 mentions as ' the fruit of the spirit ' that calls (draws) as being: lowliness and meekness and long suffering, forbearing one another in love. Endeavouring to keep the unity of God's spirit in the bond of peace......
So, at the time of baptism is when one would be drawn or called to heavenly life or not.
As with Jesus, God's spirit would testify with one's spirit at baptism as to a heavenly calling or an earthly calling.
Drawn to an earthly calling to be part of the humble meek who will inherit the Earth.
Those with an earthly drawing do Not have a desire to leave Earth but want to remain here in righteous conditions.
As to who ' remains ' here is mentioned at Proverbs 2:21-22.

Fool · Nov 26, 2018

URAVIP2ME said:
I am wondering what is with the upper-case letters I AM since that is Not in Scripture.
I find at Revelation 21:3 that the tent of God is with men....
To me does Not mean a literal dwelling for God on Earth, but as a tent covers or protects God covers and protects.
God's home location is Not Earth according to 1 Kings 8:39,49 but a heavenly zip code.

I think many know Heaven and Hell are Not unique to Christianity.
For that matter, what is taught as Hell in Christendom is from a non-biblical source just taught as being Scripture.
Non-biblical Hell is a never ending fire, whereas the Christian Hell is simply mankind's stone-cold temporary grave.
When KJV translated the word Gehenna as Hell-Fire that put the flames in biblical Hell.
Gehenna was just a garbage pit outside of Jerusalem where things were destroyed forever, Not burnt forever.
So, Gehenna is just symbolic for: destruction.
Destruction is what is a biblical teaching because as Psalms 92:7 says the wicked will be ' destroyed forever '.
We are told at 2 Peter 3:9 if we don't wish to ' perish ' (be destroyed) then we should repent.

As far as the spirit that draws, I find at Romans 8:14 it mentions those who are led by God's spirit.
At Romans 8:16 it says God's spirit itself bears witness with our spirit ( draws those called to heaven ).
God's spirit bore witness with Jesus' spirit at the time of Jesus baptism when the heavens where opened to him.
At Romans 8:17 it says about those who are joint-heirs with Christ " if " they suffer with Christ - Ephesians 3:6.
Ephesians 4:1-3 mentions as ' the fruit of the spirit ' that calls (draws) as being: lowliness and meekness and long suffering, forbearing one another in love. Endeavouring to keep the unity of God's spirit in the bond of peace......
So, at the time of baptism is when one would be drawn or called to heavenly life or not.
As with Jesus, God's spirit would testify with one's spirit at baptism as to a heavenly calling or an earthly calling.
Drawn to an earthly calling to be part of the humble meek who will inherit the Earth.
Those with an earthly drawing do Not have a desire to leave Earth but want to remain here in righteous conditions.
As to who ' remains ' here is mentioned at Proverbs 2:21-22.

the tabernacle, tent of god is the body temple that paul informed you of. the Spirit dwells in that tent of meeting. you are to enter into yourselves to commune. revelation is not for some other, it is for self.

Luke 11:52

Luke 11:52 Woe to you experts in the law! For you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering."

will you clean the cup?

Matt 23:25-Matt 23:28 NIV “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean. “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean.…

You create misery
Have your cake and eat it
Take your place in history
And pray we don't repeat it
Call it faith,
call it back,
call it off
Don't call me later
Lay your head in your bed
It's just how they made it - Catch - Kosheen

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