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What Do You Think of Globalization?

WalterTrull

Godfella
All of this could be eliminated if we would simply design and implement a socio-economic system that equitably shared wealth and opportunity.
Your premise is laudable, though possibly fatally complicated. "The greatest of these is charity" and "ye have the poor always with you"
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
It's not a matter of economic prosperity, it's a matter of equitable distribution. If we all had a more or less equal chance to survive and thrive in life, we wouldn't be so inclined to attack others for what they have, that we don't. But unfortunately, the human inclination is to respond to good fortune and abundance with greed: to hoard anything we have or get that we don't need, or deserve; thereby denying any opportunity of gaining it, to everyone else. The wealth and opportunities pile up in the hands of those who are most unwilling to share them, forcing everyone else to go without until they are are driven to try and take it by force. At which point they also want vengeance as well as their share of the wealth, and that begins a whole 'tit-for-tat' cycle of violence that can go on the many generations.

All of this could be eliminated if we would simply design and implement a socio-economic system that equitably shared wealth and opportunity. But so far, we just can't seem to do it. Fear and greed drives us to hoard whatever we have, and to resentment those that are doing the hoarding, and eventually to shortages that propel us to violence. Over and over and over, again.

But now there are so many of us living on this planet that our greed and stupidity are threatening to destroy not just us, but the planet, itself.
It's excessively complicated to try and run such a process from the top down, which is why I prefer the "cottage industry" approach, which is complicated enough as it is. At least with this system most decisions would be local.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
What do you think of globalization? Where is it leading to?
I think the world is not big enough to hold this much diversification. I'm am happy to help the Trump administration to further space exploration to give him and his supporters their own planet where they don't have to be bothered with all these "others" and their stupid differences. :)
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
What do you think of globalization? Where is it leading to?


For those who are interested: "Globalization or globalisation is the process of interaction and integration between people, companies, and governments worldwide. Globalization has grown due to advances in transportation and communication technology. With increased global interactions comes the growth of international trade, ideas, and culture.

Large-scale globalization began in the 1820s. In the late 19th century and early 20th century, the connectivity of the world's economies and cultures grew very quickly. The term globalization is recent, only establishing its current meaning in the 1970s." -- Wikipeadia.​

Omg great question
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Your premise is laudable, though possibly fatally complicated. "The greatest of these is charity" and "ye have the poor always with you"
I doubt that complexity is the impediment. I suspect it's something more akin to genetics. Perhaps we are simply not "wired" to consider the well-being of our fellow humans as emblematic of our own.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
It's excessively complicated to try and run such a process from the top down, which is why I prefer the "cottage industry" approach, which is complicated enough as it is. At least with this system most decisions would be local.
Again, I don't think complexity is the problem. I think the problem is will, and human nature.

Most of us would be OK with sharing the wealth and the opportunity (within reason). But as soon as we see someone gaining and hoarding these, we tend to respond by doing the same. And then the big "Darwinism Game" begins. And it never ends well, because even the winners are ultimately losers.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
While well meaning, I find this approach to be, unintentionally, the source of many problems. Unity is an impossible goal and is the cultural progeny of universalist religion. Attempts to artificially create unity often do more harm than good as they frequently result in a desire to influence others to be 'more like us'.
We are one species, and our survival depends on each other. Progress has been slow, but vast swaths of humanity no longer live under tribal warfare, Europe has made it nearly a century without any major internal wars, and for most of humanity tomorrow has never been more assured and we are far more likely to die from diseases such as cancer or diabetes or other age-related disorders than a violent death or insect bite or minor cut. We are paving the way towards global unity. We'll probably fail the first time, and probably more times after that, but before our time is up we probably will have a functional global state.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
LOL. I'm no great fan of Trump, but I think he will look like Mr. Rogers compared to the antichrist. Trump is actually a threat to those who are striving for globalization.
The Anti-Christ is going to have to do better than talking at a campaign rally like he's a WWE wrestler and play flippity-floppity like a fish on land if a global state is the goal.
 

SpiritualisT

New Member
I eagerly look forward to watching the Jewish community tear you apart. I'm tempted to call a couple to attention, but I won't be that mean. But I'll be kicking back on a chair eating popcorn as I read them eviscerating you.
Does this sound like a warning? What actually of what I said is not true?
 

Onyx

Active Member
Premium Member
Concerning slavery (as ill-conceived as the whole concept is), Africans themselves were very much involved in that game, and some freed slaves in the United States even went back down South to buy a few of their own.

In my opinion, "globalization" is the new form of slavery, whereby a select few can gain further power and control over the world through deceptive and unethical practices.

The supposed "leaders" of this world only care about boosting their own egos and living lives of extreme luxury at the expense of others. Be a proponent of "globalization" if you choose, but please consider whether or not you have a role in controlling the whole business, or whether it's controlling you.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
I think the human race is getting to the point where we're going to be so in-each-other's-face that we're either going to have to learn how to get along or destroy ourselves.

Not taking any bets.
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
I think the human race is getting to the point where we're going to be so in-each-other's-face that we're either going to have to learn how to get along or destroy ourselves.

Not taking any bets.
I think we know very well how to get along; what appears to be the case is that we simply don't want to.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
The Anti-Christ is going to have to do better than talking at a campaign rally like he's a WWE wrestler and play flippity-floppity like a fish on land if a global state is the goal.
I think the Anti-christ will know perfectly, precisely how to speak and world will be ready, likely desparate to embrace this person with open arms.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
What do you think of globalization? Where is it leading to?


For those who are interested: "Globalization or globalisation is the process of interaction and integration between people, companies, and governments worldwide. Globalization has grown due to advances in transportation and communication technology. With increased global interactions comes the growth of international trade, ideas, and culture.

Large-scale globalization began in the 1820s. In the late 19th century and early 20th century, the connectivity of the world's economies and cultures grew very quickly. The term globalization is recent, only establishing its current meaning in the 1970s." -- Wikipeadia.​

The only way to truly know if globalization is a real possibility is to outline an honest objective and to set real, transparent goals that everyone can agree on. Right now, there is not enough consistency between third and first world nations to share a common goal.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Its leading to unwieldy bureaucracy; but its never going to happen.

You know how sidewalks have to have expansion joints or else they crack? Its like that. There have to be spaces in between regions.

True. But there are some things, such as basic human rights, that can be shared as a precursor to working together towards some common goals. But no, the whole world can never really be unified entirely.
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
But there are some things, such as basic human rights, that can be shared as a precursor to working together towards some common goals.
Even this is not globally agreed. The Human Rights bill is not upheld by all nations, notably Egypt and Saudi Arabia.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
I think we know very well how to get along; what appears to be the case is that we simply don't want to.

Sure, getting along would be easy if everybody would just do everything my way . . . :D
 
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