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Does the Bible mention Islam?

Is Islam mentioned in the Bible


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TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why would I want to consider them in any other way but false Prophets.

These sounds like a good reason;

2 Chronicles 36:16."but they continually mocked the messengers of God, despised His words and scoffed at His prophets, until the wrath of the LORD arose against His people, until there was no remedy."

Or from the Lord of Hosts who is Baha'u'llah;

Zechariah 7:12 "They made their hearts like flint so that they could not hear the law and the words which the LORD of hosts had sent by His Spirit through the former prophets; therefore great wrath came from the LORD of hosts."

John 12:48"He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day"

There would be more reasons.

Regards Tony
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
Jesus brought a new Covenant so in that sense Jeremiah 31:31 is partially fulfilled but not completely on account of Jeremiah 31:32-34. Jesus certainly laid the groundwork for a complete fulfilment in the future with having the gospel preached to all nations (Matthew 24:15) a task finally completed by the mid 19th century. To be fair, Islam laid a similar groundwork. The Quran is just as widespread as the Gospel. Islam is founded on both the Torah and Gospel as is Christianity. Both Islam and Christianity are founded on the One God (monotheism) and the prophets that have gone before.

Quran 2:136
We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them . .

As Muhammad also mediated a Covenant, or agreement between God and peoples, Jeremiah 31:31 applies in part Muhammad as it does to Jesus. Neither the Covenant of Jesus nor the Covenant of Muhammad have been accepted by the Jewish people.

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Certainly the New Covenant is not accepted by Jews and Muslims.
Jews say that Jesus didn't "tick all the boxes" of Messiahship. But
Christians hold (so too do some of the OT authors such as Zechariah)
that the Messiah has two comings - first as Redeemer and then as
reigning king. And the Jews needed no Redeemer. Symbolically the
Jews lost their nation and suffered for two millennium - and yet many
hold them as being the authority on a bible they for the most part
never accepted.
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
Certainly the New Covenant is not accepted by Jews and Muslims.
Jews say that Jesus didn't "tick all the boxes" of Messiahship. But
Christians hold (so too do some of the OT authors such as Zechariah)
that the Messiah has two comings - first as Redeemer and then as
reigning king. And the Jews needed no Redeemer. Symbolically the
Jews lost their nation and suffered for two millennium - and yet many
hold them as being the authority on a bible they for the most part
never accepted.
Some Jews will claim Jesus didn’t tick any of the boxes to be the Messiah. I respectfully disagree though Jesus didn’t tick all the boxes some Christians believe. For me and my Baha’i brothers and sisters, Jesus is the ‘Son of God’, born to the Virgin Mary, His Divinity affirmed and the Divine Inspiration of the Gospels clearly established. His second coming will establish God’s Kingdom on Earth.

The Sacred books are opened for all to see. Whether the Hebrew Bible, New Testament, Quran or Baha’i writings. God has endowed each one of us with the faculty of reason. If we cleave to justice, God will enable us to see with our own eyes, not the eyes of others. We each have the capacity to investigate the truth for ourselves. Yet only the pure in heart will be enabled to ascend to the sun of truth. Only those who have detached themselves from the world and it’s idle chatter, it’s vanities and fleeting pleasures can gain a glimpse of the heaven of true understanding.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
Or the Prophecy has been fulfilled and Gods Messengers are just that.

My Love of our One God sees this is the case.
I know Prov. 10:12 says that love covers over all sin. I see that for some people love also covers over contextual consistency.

Consider, no person of any Faith can say they are chosen or better, we believe we all have One God, or we do not. All religious predudice vanishes and at last One God is a reality;

Zechariah 14:9 "The LORD will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one LORD, and his name the only name."

We now know God is all the Prophets and Mesengers in all Names. The 'Glory of God' has been manifested for this Great Day of God, promissed in all scriptures.

Yet the world still waits and the waiting has consequenses, to which recorded prophecy says we will all have to face.

Regards Tony
I'm not sure if you're making an argument here, or giving me a sermon. Do you know?
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
That is up to you how you see them. I'm just answering your questions, that's all. If you are not interested in what I have to say then I'll desist.

During the advent of Christ it was the responsibility of everyone to recognise Jesus was the Messiah and to follow Him. It was also a duty not to follow false prophets. If Muhammad and Baha'u'llah are false prophets then Muslims and Baha'is are deprived of the Blessing of God. If they are from God then it is the Baha'is who are empowered by the Holy Spirit. As for those who turn away from the prophets of God, God is Self-Sufficient and above the need of any of His creatures.

That's right, Muhammad and Baha'ullah are false prophets, and Muslims and Baha'is are deprived of God's blessings.

God does not and will not bless anyone who follows false prophets.

A person can not exalt anyone else's teaching over and above the Lord Christ Jesus teachings.
And that's exactly what Muhammad and Baha'ullah does, exalts themselves over and above Christ Jesus.

As a Christian, I am called only to follow the teachings of my Lord Christ Jesus.

You really believe that if the bible did teach about Muhammad and Baha'ullah that I would actually go against my Lord Christ Jesus teachings.

There is no where in the bible that Muhammads name is made mention of and neither is the name of Baha'ullah name made mention of.

What people do is twist the bible into saying what they want it to say and not read it as it is, without adding things into God's word, this is exactly what Muhammad and Baha'ullah does twist God's word around just enough to deceive people.
Just like the serpent in the garden of Eden, when talking to Eve, The serpent took God's words and twist it around to say what the serpent wanted God's words to say to Eve, like alot of people, are being deceived by that old serpent again to day.

Like Muhammad takes what Christ Jesus said about the Comforter and twists it around and apply's the Comforter as being himself.
When in fact the Comforter is the Holy Spirit of Almighty God. And not human as Muhammad and Baha'ullah as people believing it's human.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I know Prov. 10:12 says that love covers over all sin. I see that for some people love also covers over contextual consistency.

I'm not sure if you're making an argument here, or giving me a sermon. Do you know?

I would see it as good advice, but you feel entirly free to make the call, I wish you well.

Regards Tony
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
That's right, Muhammad and Baha'ullah are false prophets, and Muslims and Baha'is are deprived of God's blessings.

God does not and will not bless anyone who follows false prophets.

A person can not exalt anyone else's teaching over and above the Lord Christ Jesus teachings.
And that's exactly what Muhammad and Baha'ullah does, exalts themselves over and above Christ Jesus.

As a Christian, I am called only to follow the teachings of my Lord Christ Jesus.

You really believe that if the bible did teach about Muhammad and Baha'ullah that I would actually go against my Lord Christ Jesus teachings.

There is no where in the bible that Muhammads name is made mention of and neither is the name of Baha'ullah name made mention of.

What people do is twist the bible into saying what they want it to say and not read it as it is, without adding things into God's word, this is exactly what Muhammad and Baha'ullah does twist God's word around just enough to deceive people.
Just like the serpent in the garden of Eden, when talking to Eve, The serpent took God's words and twist it around to say what the serpent wanted God's words to say to Eve, like alot of people, are being deceived by that old serpent again to day.

Like Muhammad takes what Christ Jesus said about the Comforter and twists it around and apply's the Comforter as being himself.
When in fact the Comforter is the Holy Spirit of Almighty God. And not human as Muhammad and Baha'ullah as people believing it's human.

What is spiritual blindness?
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member

What is spiritual blindnes, those who believe in the false prophets Muhammad and Baha'ullah, those are in Spiritual Blindness.

Seeing how Muhammad does not believe that Christ Jesus is God, Nor that God came down here in the likeness of man.

Nor does Muhammad believe that Jesus as God died on the cross for the sin of the world, That is Spiritual Blindness. Of not knowing who Christ Jesus is.
For Christ Jesus is God in the body of flesh and blood.
To denounce this, are in Spiritual Blindness.
 
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BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
English doesn't seem to be your forte. That's OK because we call all refer to a dictionary.

Blasphemy means;

the action or offence of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things; profane talk.
"he was detained on charges of blasphemy"

synonyms: profanity, profaneness, sacrilege, irreligiousness, irreverence, taking the Lord's name in vain, swearing, curse, cursing, impiety, impiousness, ungodliness, unholiness, desecration, disrespect;


So claiming to be God when you are not could be considered blasphemy. So too claiming to be the Son of God or the Messiah. Blasphemy can refer to a whole range of actions and statements, not just declaring yourself God.

The phrase 'sitting at the right hand of God' means a close and important relationship. It does not mean Jesus is God though in some respects He can be. If I sit on the right hand side of the chief executive officer at a company I work at, it does not mean I am the chief executive officer.

The verse John 3:16 distinguishes Jesus as the only begotten Son of God. In that sense He is set apart from all other sons of God.

Matthew 24:30 is Messianic in reference to the return of Christ. It also refers to Daniel 7:13 as Jesus also was the son of man who appeared on clouds to His people.

Being the Messiah, appearing on clouds of heaven or sitting at the right hand side of God does not mean Jesus was God.

1) It is wholly inappropriate for a religious person to insult another religious person with the demeaning "you don't speak English good, do you"? Stop it.

2) I'm more than aware, already, of the English definition of blasphemy. The Bible was not written in English. Biblical blasphemy is when a person says they are God.

3) HOW does John 3 distinguish Jesus? Hebrews says another distinction, for example, He is above all angels and humans... how?

4) The son of man of Daniel 7 returns at the end of Daniel to judge all mankind. Jesus was saying He was God, Messiah and judge of the Pharisees.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
The Message of Muhammad as given in the Quran, was given a dispensation of 1260 years. Written in prophecy as Times, Times and Half a time, 3 & 1/2 years, 42 months or 1260 days.

In the thought that every one of Gods Messages makes things New, that they are a new Jerusalem, a new heaven and a new earth, in that sense they are all a bride come down from heaven and Virgin born.

Regards Tony

I do not believe you are allowed to take things as a metaphor when there is no indication that they are metaphors.

I never saw it there but if it is a reflection of Daniel's time frame, nothing happened. Of course everyone measures from a different date but if one measures from 666 it only comes to 1922.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
But little do people know, God has given within Revelation what the number 666 represents and who it represents. All in Revelation.
People come up with all sorts of things what the number 666 represents, but little do people know, God has given in Revelation what the number 666 represents and who.

In Revelation a person will find there are
7 seals, 7 trumpets, 7 Vials.

Which the 6th seal, 6th trumpet, 6 vial,
When put together = 666, this being the Mark of the beast = 666--6 seal, 6 trump,
6 vial = 666 = mark of the beast, Satan.

I believe one may have all kinds of fun with numbers but I don't believe one may draw a connection Biblically.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
We need to get past words to understand the spiritual message the authors of the Bible are trying to convey. The Jews see no verses in the Tanakh relating to Jesus, whereas many Christians see over 300 verses that are prophetic. It is a matter of perception and Faith.

Muhammad in the Quran affirms the importance of both the Torah and Gospels. He says its not enough to follow Islam but all the prophets that have gone beforehand with special emphasis on Jesus and Moses. Over 50 Biblical characters are mentioned in the Quran and there are many similarities between Judaism, Christianity and Islam. The three religions have more in common with each other than with Hinduism or Buddhism, though the are important shared themes in all religion.

Early Islamic scholars examined how Muhammad fulfilled prophecies in both the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament in much the same way as Christians have with the Hebrew Bible. For cultural reasons the process with the Muslims became derailed early on and the narrative became focused on how the Gospel and the Torah had become corrupted, in part because there wasn't any clear specific references to Muhammad. Besides there were contradictions with the Quran, for example with the crucifixion of Christ. More recently the attention has focused back on Biblical prophecy but viewing it more symbolically as the Christians have. The Muslims don't have anywhere near as many as the 300+ prophecies the Christians can claim. Maybe if they work at it long enough they will!

My perspective as a Baha'i is that Jesus fulfils Messianic prophecies in the Tanakh and Muhammad fulfils prophecies in both the Tanakh and the New Testament.

I believe Jews don't want to see Jesus in the Tenach.

I believe Christians see what is there for what it is.

I believe you are seeing things that are not there because you want to see them.

I believe what can be said of the Qu'ran is that it views the Tenach and NT as legitimately from God.
 

Dale

Member
That's right, Muhammad and Baha'ullah are false prophets, and Muslims and Baha'is are deprived of God's blessings.

God does not and will not bless anyone who follows false prophets.

A person can not exalt anyone else's teaching over and above the Lord Christ Jesus teachings.
And that's exactly what Muhammad and Baha'ullah does, exalts themselves over and above Christ Jesus.

As a Christian, I am called only to follow the teachings of my Lord Christ Jesus.

You really believe that if the bible did teach about Muhammad and Baha'ullah that I would actually go against my Lord Christ Jesus teachings.

There is no where in the bible that Muhammads name is made mention of and neither is the name of Baha'ullah name made mention of.

What people do is twist the bible into saying what they want it to say and not read it as it is, without adding things into God's word, this is exactly what Muhammad and Baha'ullah does twist God's word around just enough to deceive people.
Just like the serpent in the garden of Eden, when talking to Eve, The serpent took God's words and twist it around to say what the serpent wanted God's words to say to Eve, like alot of people, are being deceived by that old serpent again to day.

Like Muhammad takes what Christ Jesus said about the Comforter and twists it around and apply's the Comforter as being himself.
When in fact the Comforter is the Holy Spirit of Almighty God. And not human as Muhammad and Baha'ullah as people believing it's human.

Muhammad is in the Bible in several places and so is Islam and it's teachings, and proving this is no problem, but Baha'ullah isn't and that also can be proven using the context of scriptures and the Qur'an, Muhammad is the last and final Messenger and Prophet and anybody else who claims being sent by God don't listen or believe their teachings.

Also Muhammad is mentioned in world scriptures, because Islam and the Bible teaches that God sent every nation and tribes a messenger and a prophet and these religions also teach monotheism and belief in divine instructions, but these scriptures have been altered and tribal customs and traditions along with false teachings have corrupted their scriptures, just like the Torah and the Gospels, they also have been corrupted, but not to the extent of the other world religious scriptures like Hinduism.

The Hindu scriptures the Vedas mention Muhammad ( pbu ) by name and the Hindus don't deny this they actually agree with this, but still don't except Islam because they are still brainwashed with their traditions and false corrupted teachings.



If you study world religions like native Americans and other tribes like Africans and Asians, they believe in One creator and that God is a spirit and he has no sons and there's nothing like unto him.

Muhammad in the Bible by name using the context and Hebrew Lexicon and Dictionaries.


Songs of Solomon chapter 5 verse 10-16

But let us actually hear it in Hebrew and make sure it's actually saying Muhammad, so we don't have to show Hebrew Lexicons to prove it's actually Muhammad.

Video with Biblical text and The Hebrew Language quotes the chapter. it's actually proven he says Muhammad.

Audio http://www.mechon-mamre.org/mp3/t3005.mp3 it's actually proven he says Muhammad.

I believe this is enough proof, but the video makers said we need to read the full context and let's actually read it.

Songs of Solomon chapter 5 verse 10 A certain person is being described physically and metaphorically and his worriers are numbered and he's called by name.

Description fulfillment, A radiant Dark skinned Arab of African origin with a reddish skin tone verse 15 says his "countenance (face) is as Lebanon"

Not today's race of people but the ancient races because people invade and take over culture and History.

The ancient skin color and facial features. http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Canaan/bowing.jpg http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Canaan/tile1a.jpg http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/North_Africa/P_bust.JPG

Songs of Solomon chapter 5 verse 10 10 My beloved is radiant and ruddy,

This is why we read the context of Songs of Solomon chapter 5 when it's talking about a person called ruddy , a very Dark reddish brown skin tone like these pictures https://www.google.com/search?q=ruddy+horses+bible&client=firefox-b-1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWtKHf867eAhUDLXwKHbNoBVUQ_AUIDigB&biw=1600&bih=784#imgrc=hL6_nSElXyxEKM

11His head is as the most fine gold, his locks are bushy, and black as a raven.

I think the term Bushy Black hair speaks for itself. There's other verses in Songs of Solomon chapter 5 that discuss his Bushy hair and other metaphorical descriptions but this isn't the point and isn't worth discussing.

Songs of Solomon chapter 5 verse 10 10 the chiefest among ten thousand.

A leader of ten thousand and seemingly very important number to quote his armies exact number of being ten thousand, the simple reason, is they quote his actual name Muhammad and want to make sure you know who he is and exactly who their talking about, and you know his real name, so when he's mentioned in other scriptures and chapters in the the Old and New Testament you will know it's about Muhammad, if they are actually connected.

And he will be the the Leader of ten thousand men, this is exactly what happened when Muhammad and the Muslims conquered Mecca with exactly ten thousand men.

Proof The army of the Muslims that liberated Mecca was made of 10,000 men (From the book of "Muhammad the Prophet" by Maulana Muhammad Ali, pages 128-129). The Bible calls them "ten thousands of saints". Also, in Saheeh Bukhari, 59:574 Hadith and others:

Narrated Ibn `Abbas The Prophet left Medina (for Mecca) in the company of ten-thousand (Muslim warriors) in (the month of) Ramadan, and that was eight and a half years after his migration to Medina. He and the Muslims who were with him, proceeded on their way to Mecca. He was fasting and they were fasting, but when they reached a place called Al-Kadid which was a place of water between 'Usfan and Kudaid, he broke his fast and so did they. (Az-Zuhri said, "One should take the last action of Allah's Apostle and leave his early action (while taking a verdict.").

This his is Muhammad in the context because it mentioned historical facts about the ten thousand and describes him and actually says his name Muhammad.

Now more proof the Songs of Solomon actually says his name, or a name Muhammad.

You can't translate names of people. According to Ben Yehuda's Hebrew-English Dictionary,Mahmad is correctly pronounced "mahamad" (not mahmad) which is very close to Muhammad.

Ben Yehuda's Hebrew-English Dictionary defines "Mahmad" as "lovely, coveted one, precious one, praised one". The correct way to say "praised one" in Arabic is Muhammad, so this is the same word!

As was stated before, the name Muhammad (Muhammad) and the word mahmad (Mahmad) are spelled exactly the same way in Hebrew, and both have the same meaning. The only reason they are pronounced different is because of vowels (dots and lines) introduced in the eigth century.

The Hebrew word for praised one is Mahamad

The Hebrew word for Muhammad (the Arabic Prophet) is Muhammad

In conclusion, if Songs of Solomon chapter 5 is discussing a man to come after that time, it is without a doubt Muhammad, as it even mentions his name. Any Christian who believes Jesus is the Messiah, and believes that books were sent down by God after the TaNaKh (Jewish Bible), then surely they should take into account what they just read here, and consider the Qur'an before making a decision.

Also in Deuteronomy chapter 33 i believe is Muhammad, the one from Paran coming with ten thousand saints isn't Baha'ullah, but prophet Muhammad and they are simply misunderstanding scriptures or taking certain scriptures out of context.

Everything is connected with Muhammad and his coming, you just need to study and do certain research, because people have been claiming this sense Muhammad came and even Jewish and Christians agree that certain scriptures are prophecies about Muhammad.

Mohammed (peace be upon him) name in Hindu holy book




Concept of God in Hinduism, the one God and there's nothing like him.
Concept Of God In Hinduism (Urdu) - Dr.Zakir Naik

SIMILARITIES BETWEEN HINDUISM AND ISLAM | CHENNAI | LECTURE + Q & A | DR ZAKIR NAIK

SIMILARITIES BETWEEN HINDUISM AND ISLAM | CHENNAI | LECTURE + Q & A | DR ZAKIR NAIK

Bangla: Dr. Zakir Naik's Lecture - The
Concept of God in Major Religions (Full )

YouTube
/watch?v=DdQMxxXfPOw

Edited from the book
MUHAMMAD IN PARSI, HINDOO AND BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES
By
A.H.Vidyarthi & U.Ali.

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Parsi Scriptures

Muhammad in world scriptures Bible book
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...p/0913321591&usg=AOvVaw3OeacVyO05iBSY2Qvxj08O

Muhammad in World Scriptures (Vol 1) The Parsi, Hindu and Buddhist Scriptures
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This takes serious study and Islam and the Qur'an teaches proving everything and triple checking everything, when the Qur'an says bring your proof, it's speaking to Muslims and Christians and other faiths to produce proof and to not blindly believe anything that anyone says.


I will still post Islam in the Bible soon, Insha Allah if God wills.
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
This refers to the return of Christ or the Messiah. An analogous example of a returned prophet concerns John the Baptist who returned as the spirit of Elijah.

John the Baptist was the return of the spirit of Elijah whose advent was prophesised to herald the coming of the Messiah or Christ.

Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.
He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Matthew 11:11-15
Matthew 17:11-12
Isaiah 40:3

Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord

Malachi 4:5, Malachi 3:1

The prophet Elijah was taken up in a whirlwind

2 Kings 2:1-11

It was the spirit of Elijah, not Elijah physically
Luke 1:17

John the Baptist specifically denied being Elijah (meaning physically or reincarnated)
John 1:19-23

This all has important implications for the manner in which Christ returns...
So even if it specifically says "Jesus", it is not Jesus coming back but the "Christ" Spirit. Then, I blame God for being ambiguous. Why would it have been all that difficult for Jesus to make that clear that he is not the "Lord of Lords" or "King of Kings", that it would be another person but the same spirit?

In the way God "inspired" the NT to be written, that is what has caused all the misinterpretations and confusion. Or, God didn't truly inspire the writers, they did it on their own. They were the ones that went over the top in their stories of God speaking, of demons possessing people, of the need of a savior from inherited sin from Adam, of the resurrections of Jesus and the others. Or, there is the Baha'is explanation that God did inspire them. That God told them to write symbolic stories of resurrections, demons, and healings. Is that really what Baha's believe?
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
Ok, so explain exactly how it will be possible for every eye to see Jesus at his return.

Yeah and that's what Satan told Eve, not to take God's word literally. And look the mess that caused
Baha'is don't take Satan literal. They don't take a talking serpent literal. And, they don't take Genesis literal. So, I doubt they take Eve literal. So how do you plan to use the Bible to prove anything with them? Especially when they tell you that your way of seeing it is wrong? But, I'm so glad you're trying. Not many Christians, waste, I mean, take the time to engage them in these threads.
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
The Beast in Revelations 3:1-3 is both the Umayyad Caliphate and what it represents for the Islamic dispensation or example corrupted theology.

The terms leopard, bear and lion refer to a prophecy in Daniel 2. In Daniel's prophecy, the leopard represents the empire of Alexander the Great; the bear represents the empire of Media-Persia; the lion represents the empire of Chaldea (neo-Babylonia.)

The Umayyad empire resembled Alexander's in its extent, prosperity, and the leopard-like agility of its conquests. However, its true strength lay in its control of Media-Persia, the reticent bear. In its roaring boasts, it resembled a lion, and had its capital within the confines of old Chaldea.

The Umayyad dynasty were overthrown by the Abbasids in 749 AD. Their destruction seemed total, but one of the Umayyad, 'Abd Al-Rahman, known as the 'Falcon of the Quraysh,' managed to escape to Andalusia (Spain), where he set up a neo-Umayyad dynasty, the Cordoban Caliphate, that lasted for another three centuries. Thus Andalusia was the wounded head that healed.

The ten horns were also healed. The Cordoban Caliphate came to an end in 1031 after it had spawned neo-Umayyad Caliphs. Yet, again, it had only 10 un-repeated names: 1. Abd Al-Rahman, 2. Hisham, 3. Hakam, 4. Muhammad, 5. Munzir, 6. Abdullah, 7. Hijib Al-Mansur, 8. 'Abdu'l-Malik, 9. Al-Mahdi, and 10. Sulayman.
Where is the Baha'i commentary that talks about the Three Woes? Was that in SAQ or somewhere else?
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Baha'is don't take Satan literal. They don't take a talking serpent literal. And, they don't take Genesis literal. So, I doubt they take Eve literal. So how do you plan to use the Bible to prove anything with them? Especially when they tell you that your way of seeing it is wrong? But, I'm so glad you're trying. Not many Christians, waste, I mean, take the time to engage them in these threads.

I'm not like other Christians, Baha'is, may say whatever they want to, but when they try to me about that is right and is not right in my Christian bible. They may try, but that's as far they will get.
They will soon find that this Christian is not like other Christians that they can pull things over on.
I'm not alone, there are many more Christians just like me, We are coming in numbers, to stand on what is written in the bible.
People will say, what makes you think your right and all others are wrong.

There is a difference, those other Christians follow what their pastors,preachers will tell them and they take it and run with it.

I and others like me, do not follow man's teachings, Seeing how Christ Jesus himself condemned the teachings of man's. In Matthew 15:7-9.

Thank you.for your in put much appreciated.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Muhammad is in the Bible in several places and so is Islam and it's teachings, and proving this is no problem, but Baha'ullah isn't and that also can be proven using the context of scriptures and the Qur'an, Muhammad is the last and final Messenger and Prophet and anybody else who claims being sent by God don't listen or believe their teachings.

Also Muhammad is mentioned in world scriptures, because Islam and the Bible teaches that God sent every nation and tribes a messenger and a prophet and these religions also teach monotheism and belief in divine instructions, but these scriptures have been altered and tribal customs and traditions along with false teachings have corrupted their scriptures, just like the Torah and the Gospels, they also have been corrupted, but not to the extent of the other world religious scriptures like Hinduism.

The Hindu scriptures the Vedas mention Muhammad ( pbu ) by name and the Hindus don't deny this they actually agree with this, but still don't except Islam because they are still brainwashed with their traditions and false corrupted teachings.



If you study world religions like native Americans and other tribes like Africans and Asians, they believe in One creator and that God is a spirit and he has no sons and there's nothing like unto him.

Muhammad in the Bible by name using the context and Hebrew Lexicon and Dictionaries.


Songs of Solomon chapter 5 verse 10-16

But let us actually hear it in Hebrew and make sure it's actually saying Muhammad, so we don't have to show Hebrew Lexicons to prove it's actually Muhammad.

Video with Biblical text and The Hebrew Language quotes the chapter. it's actually proven he says Muhammad.

Audio http://www.mechon-mamre.org/mp3/t3005.mp3 it's actually proven he says Muhammad.

I believe this is enough proof, but the video makers said we need to read the full context and let's actually read it.

Songs of Solomon chapter 5 verse 10 A certain person is being described physically and metaphorically and his worriers are numbered and he's called by name.

Description fulfillment, A radiant Dark skinned Arab of African origin with a reddish skin tone verse 15 says his "countenance (face) is as Lebanon"

Not today's race of people but the ancient races because people invade and take over culture and History.

The ancient skin color and facial features. http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Canaan/bowing.jpg http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Canaan/tile1a.jpg http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/North_Africa/P_bust.JPG

Songs of Solomon chapter 5 verse 10 10 My beloved is radiant and ruddy,

This is why we read the context of Songs of Solomon chapter 5 when it's talking about a person called ruddy , a very Dark reddish brown skin tone like these pictures https://www.google.com/search?q=ruddy+horses+bible&client=firefox-b-1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWtKHf867eAhUDLXwKHbNoBVUQ_AUIDigB&biw=1600&bih=784#imgrc=hL6_nSElXyxEKM

11His head is as the most fine gold, his locks are bushy, and black as a raven.

I think the term Bushy Black hair speaks for itself. There's other verses in Songs of Solomon chapter 5 that discuss his Bushy hair and other metaphorical descriptions but this isn't the point and isn't worth discussing.

Songs of Solomon chapter 5 verse 10 10 the chiefest among ten thousand.

A leader of ten thousand and seemingly very important number to quote his armies exact number of being ten thousand, the simple reason, is they quote his actual name Muhammad and want to make sure you know who he is and exactly who their talking about, and you know his real name, so when he's mentioned in other scriptures and chapters in the the Old and New Testament you will know it's about Muhammad, if they are actually connected.

And he will be the the Leader of ten thousand men, this is exactly what happened when Muhammad and the Muslims conquered Mecca with exactly ten thousand men.

Proof The army of the Muslims that liberated Mecca was made of 10,000 men (From the book of "Muhammad the Prophet" by Maulana Muhammad Ali, pages 128-129). The Bible calls them "ten thousands of saints". Also, in Saheeh Bukhari, 59:574 Hadith and others:

Narrated Ibn `Abbas The Prophet left Medina (for Mecca) in the company of ten-thousand (Muslim warriors) in (the month of) Ramadan, and that was eight and a half years after his migration to Medina. He and the Muslims who were with him, proceeded on their way to Mecca. He was fasting and they were fasting, but when they reached a place called Al-Kadid which was a place of water between 'Usfan and Kudaid, he broke his fast and so did they. (Az-Zuhri said, "One should take the last action of Allah's Apostle and leave his early action (while taking a verdict.").

This his is Muhammad in the context because it mentioned historical facts about the ten thousand and describes him and actually says his name Muhammad.

Now more proof the Songs of Solomon actually says his name, or a name Muhammad.

You can't translate names of people. According to Ben Yehuda's Hebrew-English Dictionary,Mahmad is correctly pronounced "mahamad" (not mahmad) which is very close to Muhammad.

Ben Yehuda's Hebrew-English Dictionary defines "Mahmad" as "lovely, coveted one, precious one, praised one". The correct way to say "praised one" in Arabic is Muhammad, so this is the same word!

As was stated before, the name Muhammad (Muhammad) and the word mahmad (Mahmad) are spelled exactly the same way in Hebrew, and both have the same meaning. The only reason they are pronounced different is because of vowels (dots and lines) introduced in the eigth century.

The Hebrew word for praised one is Mahamad

The Hebrew word for Muhammad (the Arabic Prophet) is Muhammad

In conclusion, if Songs of Solomon chapter 5 is discussing a man to come after that time, it is without a doubt Muhammad, as it even mentions his name. Any Christian who believes Jesus is the Messiah, and believes that books were sent down by God after the TaNaKh (Jewish Bible), then surely they should take into account what they just read here, and consider the Qur'an before making a decision.

Also in Deuteronomy chapter 33 i believe is Muhammad, the one from Paran coming with ten thousand saints isn't Baha'ullah, but prophet Muhammad and they are simply misunderstanding scriptures or taking certain scriptures out of context.

Everything is connected with Muhammad and his coming, you just need to study and do certain research, because people have been claiming this sense Muhammad came and even Jewish and Christians agree that certain scriptures are prophecies about Muhammad.

Mohammed (peace be upon him) name in Hindu holy book




Concept of God in Hinduism, the one God and there's nothing like him.
Concept Of God In Hinduism (Urdu) - Dr.Zakir Naik

SIMILARITIES BETWEEN HINDUISM AND ISLAM | CHENNAI | LECTURE + Q & A | DR ZAKIR NAIK

SIMILARITIES BETWEEN HINDUISM AND ISLAM | CHENNAI | LECTURE + Q & A | DR ZAKIR NAIK

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Concept of God in Major Religions (Full )

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Edited from the book

MUHAMMAD IN PARSI, HINDOO AND BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES
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Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Parsi Scriptures

Muhammad in world scriptures Bible book
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This takes serious study and Islam and the Qur'an teaches proving everything and triple checking everything, when the Qur'an says bring your proof, it's speaking to Muslims and Christians and other faiths to produce proof and to not blindly believe anything that anyone says.


I will still post Islam in the Bible soon, Insha Allah if God wills.


There's nothing that you have said, that I haven't heard before.

Jesus in bible proves Muhammad to be false prophet.


Muhammad say in Qu'ran 5:47--"So let the people of the Gospel rule according to what Allah revealed in it. Those who do not rule according to what Allah revealed are the sinners"

Muhammad tell others to obye gospels, but Muhammad not obey gospels.
So Muhammad is sinner, not obey gospels.

Muhammad say, Allah best deceiver, Allah deceive muhammah.

Muhammad could not read or write, but yet Muhammad want people to believe he is prophet, silly wife woman write for Muhammad, but how muhammad know what wife write, Muhammad no read or write, so how muhammad know what wife write.
 
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